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He's paid the price. His lack of couture has cost him the nomination.

An Armani tent would have worked wonders for Bernie.

I vote solely on what the candidate wears.

HydroCabron says

I vote solely on what the candidate wears.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or you're part of the millions that do.

Picture of dan supporting Bernie.

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

Picture of dan supporting Bernie.

The fact that you are compelled to post such a thing indicates how afraid you are that Bernie will be the nominee. People always talk the most shit when they are the most afraid.

Dan8267 says

Picture of dan supporting Bernie.

The fact that you are compelled to post such a thing indicates how afraid you are that Bernie will be the nominee. People always talk the most shit when they are the most afraid.

you are the one trying to invent implausible scenarios that magically give your candidate the nomination. you are precisely described by that picture! Unless Hillary dies, is indicted, or for unknown reasons, quits and throws here support to bernie, he has lost.

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

you are the one trying to invent implausible scenarios that magically give your candidate the nomination.

There is nothing implausible or magical about superdelegates voting strategically to prevent a Trump presidency. You have offered absolutely no evidence to support your ridiculous claims. It does not matter how many times you assert the same asinine statement or repeat the same stupid sounding sound bite -- and yes, your sound bites sound stupid -- none of that changes facts. You know, the facts presented to you on a silver platter that you are incapable of refuting.

Dan8267 says

There is nothing implausible or magical about superdelegates voting strategically to prevent a Trump presidency. You have offered absolutely no evidence to support your ridiculous claims. It does not matter how many times you assert the same asinine statement or repeat the same stupid sounding sound bite -- and yes, your sound bites sound stupid -- none of that changes facts. You know, the facts presented to you on a silver platter that you are incapable of refuting.

If you think that 500 of 700ish super delegates who have already said they are voting for clinton, and many of which are publicly calling for Bernie to concede now, that actually THEIR OWN WORDS are the silly fantasy, and the reality is that 400+ will now, suddenly switch to supporting him, despite the ass kicking he just took in Yesterday's primaries, despite a 400 delegate difference in pledged delegates, despite 4 or 5 million more actual votes for hillary, that they will suddenly and against their own assertions to the contrary, switch to Bernie....

well what the hell. Go talk to fortwhine or ironvagina then. They are more on your level in that case, not me. You aren't just delusional, you are one dumb mf.

If you weren't stupid, you'd be able to reverse the situation: what if bernie had a 400 delegate lead, 5 million more votes, and the supers threw the election to Hillary. Would you be OK with that??? Of course not.

Delusional and dumb is no way to go through life, son!

Honey, if you can't provide evidence to back up your claims, there are no words you can write that will prove your point. Evidence matters. Baseless assertions, no matter how passionately yelled, have no weight. Come back when you have some actual evidence for your claims.

Honestly Delusional Dan, if you can't provide evidence and facts to back up your claim that it won't snow tomorrow in Phoenix, there are no words you can write that will prove your point. You're just putting up baseless assertions, and you yell the passionately, but they have no weight.

After all, as you astutely pointed out, the probability is either 0 or 1 after it happens, and there is no way to have any information about it beforehand!

Dan is correct.

I think I just bought a ticket on the Millennial Hate Train.

To Bernie supporters:

You are very special - unique snowflakes, one and all. I am so sorry your man didn't win - you deserve better, you special flower. It must be that Bernie didn't win because mean ol' Hillary cheated!

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

if you can't provide evidence and facts to back up your claim that it won't snow tomorrow in Phoenix, there are no words you can write that will prove your point.

Hey idiot. You can't just repeat what I said about you and expect it to apply to me. That's not how debate works. If the "I know you are but what am I" argument actually worked, president Pee Wee would have given the State of the Union address.

But hey, dumb ass, prove me wrong. State one claim I made that I cannot back up with evidence. To make your job easier I'll list my claims once more in a numbered list. And then we can watch as your pussy ass shrinks from the challenge.

Dan8267 says

1. The superdelegates can vote for Bernie.

2. Doing so would be consistent with the sole purpose of superdelegates.

3. It is strategic for the superdelegates to vote for Bernie because the general election polls show that he has a greater lead over Trump than Hillary does.

and now

4. You have no mathematical model for calculating the probability of the superdelegates' votes.

For you to say that any of these four statements is a wrong would be a lie on your part.

Come on, challenge any of these claims. I dare you to. I double dog dare you.

Dan8267 says

Hey idiot. You can't just repeat what I said about you and expect it to apply to me. That's not how debate works.

you dumbfuck, you didn't even read my statement though you quoted it! I merely employed your retard logic to predicting snow tomorrow in Phoenix.

your candidate lost. and you are a butthurt stupid spoiled millennial. grow the fuck up, be a man someday!

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

you didn't even read my statement

Another factually incorrect statement. Do you ever get tired of lying?

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

your candidate lost.

Yet another factually incorrect statement. Neither candidate has won or lost yet, by definition. Clearly you do not get tired of lying. You repeat lies immediately after they are debunked. I'm starting to think that you may be a poser conservative trying to make Clinton supporters look like idiots. However, since conservatives tend to be as stupid as you are, that seems to be an implausible scenario.

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

you are a butthurt stupid spoiled millennial

I had thought you were a moron, but such elegant rhetoric proves me wrong.

Also, yet another factually incorrect statement. I am not a Millennial. Are you physically incapable of getting facts right?

mommy, the mean guy online keeps saying Bernie lost!!!

Mommy, why can't life be like when I played on that baseball team, and we didn't keep score cause we didn't want anybody to lose and feel bad!

Mommy, the teacher gave me a B! can you go to the PTA and make her change it to an A, i'm always supposed to get A's....

Oh honey, just because I've exposed your foolishness with every reply does not make me the whiner. I have presented rational, adult arguments backed with evidence from multiple sources to support every claim I made. In contrast you write like a petulant child. I'm responding to encourage you to write more. It makes your team look like idiots. So please, continue.

You are correct. Based on your logic, I'm digging out my snow coat and shoes for the snow tomorrow.... in Phoenix.

Dan8267 says

1. The superdelegates can vote for Bernie.

Clearly.Dan8267 says

2. Doing so would be consistent with the sole purpose of superdelegates.

It would be consistent with one of their purposes.

Dan8267 says

3. It is strategic for the superdelegates to vote for Bernie because the general election polls show that he has a greater lead over Trump than Hillary does.

True but a case can be made that Sanders vs.Trump numbers are soft.

Dan8267 says

4. You have no mathematical model for calculating the probability of the superdelegates' votes.

No one does.

Beyond the "soft number" angle there is another consideration in respect of superdels' duty to seek the most electable candidate. Within the Sanders/Trump numbers is the assumption that Sanders is the nominee as produced by primary voters, don't you agree? Before a superdel (or you, for that matter) hangs his hat on the Sanders/Trump number wouldn't it be instructive to run a poll posing Sanders against Trump if and only Sanders attained the nom by virtue of the scenario you suggest? It might remove some support from Clinton supporters who refused to vote because of what they might perceive as betrayal. At least you would have a harder number to work with. Superdels might be thinking about all that and concluding, right or wrong, that Clinton is the more electable nominee given the polls extant.

neplusultra57 says

4. You have no mathematical model for calculating the probability of the superdelegates' votes.

No one does.

My point exactly, which is why I make no claim that the superdelegates will vote one way or another.

Dan8267 says

My point exactly, which is why I make no claim that the superdelegates will vote one way or another.

so I guess it will just be a huge surprise when Hillary gets it!

I hope your parents didn't waste money on wrapping paper for your presents at christmas! Just set the presents out a month early, and then see the surprise on your face when you opened the box! After all, it could be anything inside the clear box that you can see a transformer in!!

neplusultra57 says

Within the Sanders/Trump numbers is the assumption that Sanders is the nominee as produced by primary voters, don't you agree?

No. That's not how the rules of the primaries work. There is a specific delegate threshold. Having the largest minority means nothing. This is not a matter of opinion, so agreeing or disagreeing with it is irrelevant.

I would agree with the position that the entire election system should be re-architectured from scratch, but that's a whole other discussion.

neplusultra57 says

Before a superdel (or you, for that matter) hangs his hat on the Sanders/Trump number

I have never stated that Sanders is the likely nominee. Only that it is plausible that the superdelegates will nominate him. Plausible, not probable. And thus it is incorrect to state that Hillary has won the nominee.

neplusultra57 says

wouldn't it be instructive to run a poll posing Sanders against Trump if and only Sanders attained the nom by virtue of the scenario you suggest?

I don't know. What I do know is that hundreds of polls at the national and at state levels confirm that Bernie Sanders wins considerably against Trump by a far wider margin than Hillary and that there are exactly zero polls saying that Hillary does better than Sanders in the general election. And that says a lot.

neplusultra57 says

It might remove some support from Clinton supporters who refused to vote because of what they might perceive as betrayal.

Possibly, but there is ample evidence that many Sanders supporters will either stay home or vote for Trump is Hillary is the nominee. And this will not only cost the Democrats the White House, but also many House and Senate seats especially if Sander supporters stay home.

neplusultra57 says

Superdels might be thinking about all that and concluding, right or wrong, that Clinton is the more electable nominee given the polls extant.

I sincerely doubt that. The superdelegates are political insiders who have risen in the Democratic ranks. They are professional politicians who are damn good a politics. They know how to play the game; they would not be superdelegates if they didn't. It is quite possible that the superdelegates will overwhelmingly support Hillary because it is their selfish interests to scratch her back, so cronyism may cause them to vote for Hillary. However, they are also aware that the party's best interest for at least the next four years if not 40 because of Supreme Court nominations lies with them voting strategically for Sanders. So it could easily go either way.

I don't pretend to know what will go on behind the closed door talks among the superdelegates.

But I cannot stand people stating lies just to alter reality. That dishonesty must be opposed no matter the justification for it.

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

so I guess it will just be a huge surprise when Hillary gets it!

You're a dumb ass. My position has consistently been that it would not be a surprise regardless of which candidate gets the nomination in July.

The bottom line is that you are still wrong about Hillary having already won the nomination even if she eventually does. So you are still an ignorant and obnoxious moron even if you guess right.

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

I hope your parents didn't waste money on wrapping paper for your presents at christmas!

At least my parents aren't brother and sister.

PCGyver says

I guess you are just butt hurt cause Bernie hasn't dropped out yet.

The real irony of assholes like HydroCarbon and Dumbass is that they are fracturing the Democratic party in the exact same way Hillary supporters accuse Bernie of doing. I would not be surprised if Bernie supporters stayed home or voted Trump in mass numbers just because Hillary supporters are such assholes.