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just_passing_through says

Joe Hasntbeenpayinattention, the main target, will think Hillary was more persuasive and looked more presidential. By that measure, the important measure, she won big time.

He probably should have called out the moderator a few times like he did in earlier debates.

Dammit!

He was Walter Freaking Contrite tonight no matter how bad the optics looked.
He gave America, the fence sitters and the complacent Hillary supporters, some homework.
He brought things to their attention that they have never heard before. I know for a fact 90% of things we post and talk about in the election when it comes to Hillary Clinton.
Her supporters are in a self imposed news bubble. They aren't curios they don't seek and they don't look. But they do give a shit... sometimes!
Donald Trump just slapped them with a big ole shit sandwich that they are going to have to chew on between now and the next debate.

Trump was prepared to night. Now by time the next debate in almost 2 weeks. They Hillary's default supporters, will have done their homework and be on the same page as the rest of us.
Trump will continue the beatings then.

just_passing_through says

He was telling the truth dickhead. That's was makes all the more outrageous.

not according to EVERY SINGLE FACT CHECKER!!!

trump got assfucked tonight.... he's a loser! and you fucktards are too!

CNN says 62% Hillary; 27% Trump... though they say that the polled debate watchers skewed toward Hillary democrats.... So, what was the point of the poll?

This from this:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/26/lester-holt-candy-crowley-moment-first-debate/

It looked to me like Donald's was on the defensive much of the night and that's mostly attributable to the biased moderator.
Excerpt:
Again and again, Holt asked Trump tough questions that were straight from the Clinton campaign’s talking points, and which were obvious set-ups for Clinton to attack (and for fact-checkers to pounce on whatever Trump asserted in his own defense).
Here are the five worst examples.
Tax returns. Holt never asked Clinton about her e-mail scandal, about Benghazi, or about the Clinton Foundation and its dubious dealings. But he did ask Trump about his tax returns, arguing — not asking — that there might be questionable information in them that the American public deserved to hear.
Birther conspiracy theory. Holt never asked Clinton about her past record of racist statements, including her “super-predator” remarks as First Lady, or her explicit appeal to “white Americans” in her 2008 primary campaign against Obama. Yet he asked Trump about the Birther conspiracy theory and cast it as racist.
Stop-and-frisk. After an exchange between the candidates over the policy of “stop-and-frisk,” Holt interjected to bolster Clinton’s point by stating, erroneously, that stop-and-frisk had ended in New York because it had been declared unconstitutional by a court. Trump countered, correctly, that the new mayor had canceled the policy before the litigation was over.
“A presidential look.” Towards the end of the debate, Holt asked Trump about what he meant by saying Hillary Clinton did not have “a presidential look.” He did so after noting that Clinton had become “the first woman” to be nominated for president by a major political party, thus setting Trump up as a sexist. As Trump answered, Holt interrupted him, then gave Clinton a chance to respond with her talking points about Trump’s past comments on women.
Iraq War. The question of whether Trump supported the Iraq War or not has been widely debated. What is beyond doubt is that Hillary Clinton voted for it. Holt only represented one side of the debate about Trump, and never asked Clinton about her own vote.
In addition, the audience repeatedly interjected — almost always in Clinton’s favor — and Holt did not stop them, though it was against the rules. He only stopped the audience when there were cheers for Trump calling for Clinton’s emails.

Personal opinions are one thing.
But these poll results are Damning...

turtledove is deplorable says

So, what was the point of the poll?

Well you take CNN and Huffingtonpost and you aggregate those,
then you aggregate the ones Irony has posted plus the one that has the same conclusion.

To see whom amongst the card carrying Libbytarians are apostates to be shunned...

turtledove is deplorable says

CNN says 62% Hillary; 27% Trump... though they say that the polled debate watchers skewed toward Hillary democrats.... So, what was the point of the poll?

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

not according to EVERY SINGLE FACT CHECKER!!!

Bullshit. Only the paid politishills.

trump got assfucked tonight.

Agreed, but speaking of ass fucking. Aren't you the guy who was kicked off of here once? Refresh my mind, what was the reason? You're some sort of teacher right? Fucking around with the kids?

its funny watching ironpussy scour the entire internet looking for biased user participation polls that show his loser asshole donaldfuck in a good light! that shows that inside, he knows donald lost!

and now we have someone quoting breitbart... how big of a moron dick sucker does it take to think breitbart, actually working for the trump campaign, is a source??/

ANy time you guys wonder why I made millions and you are losers, that is how it is supposed to be in America! smart guy gets rich, dumbfucks who can't learn stay on the bottom!

Ranina ranina says

CNN says 62%

62% of the people that watch CNN will be doing some interesting internet research in the next few weeks.

I need a fact checker here: Was Roberta kicked off for fucking kids in the ass in his class, or was it because he was letting them fuck him in the ass?

#2, pun intended.

Ranina ranina says

To see whom amongst the card carrying Libbytarians are apostates to be shunned...

It was really weird... The guy's exact words were the people polled were "skewed toward Hillary supporters and democrats. So keep that in mind when you see the results." Heck, why didn't they just limit the poll to Lester, Bill and Chelsea and call it a day?

Trump is really appealing when he talks about asset bubbles and the ZIRP-y sins of the FRB. But instead of QE/1, QE/2, QE/3 , Trump will probably herald the era of QE/D, QE/D and QE/D. Here, D stands for Donald, meaning that the FRB will give lots of zero-interest interest-only (yes, you read that right) loans to Donald after the current bubble bursts, so that he can buy up the entire country at firesale prices.

The problem is, I am only halfway joking. There is a real danger that Trump and his cornies(*) will basically own you after the next depression, if he gets elected president.

(*) That was supposed to be CRONIES, but it kinda reads well as mistyped.

I agree that he wasn't as strong as he could have been. He needed to rehearse some canned answers to get him through the Gotchas, especially on race. He did get 4-5 negative leading questions (IE YOU supported Iraq).

However, the live feedback showed that his best time of the night was when he was hammering on NAFTA and TPP. That's his strong suit, I don't think he realizes how strong it is. It's exactly where Hillary is weakest and least believable too, and hamstrung because if she lies too much to win, it'll haunt her later.

They were the only ones that would talk to cnn...

turtledove is deplorable says

It was really weird... The guy's exact words were the people polled were "skewed toward Hillary supporters and democrats.

STA-NAM-IN-NUH

She don't have it!

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

I agree that he wasn't as strong as he could have been.

He needs to quit making the duck face when he's on camera.

TIME - Trump winning.
http://time.com/4506217/presidential-debate-clinton-trump-survey/

There would be no MonikaGate if she had it...

Tenpoundbass says

STA-NAM-IN-NUH

She don't have it!

Nate aint posted his pol yet. I pretty sure it's going to be devistating. To the Liberals it will them all worried Trump will lose. But we won't give up hope for you guys. I pinky swear.

Where's that pink panther pussy?
I guess I'd hide too if I was pushing IHLiarry...

Clinton cheated by preparing thoroughly and demonstrating superior temperament, maturity, and stamina

I don't know if you guys can tell, but I'm really getting my nihilism on tonight. I be like, to hell with this shit. I guess this is what "Bernie or Bust" meant.

Well It is time for some exercise. I'm outta here for a while.

She was begging fact checkers to bail her out, which was her biggest fail of the night.

I'm surprised but the polls show it decisively for Trump, Woho I will take it.

Still think the odds makers are going to say Clinton

Because you are judging the debate oldstyle...same as cnn.
Trump is a political torpedo electrically fired with safeguards disarmed to disrupt the process.
It's viewed as an asset that he doesn't know shit about politics.

indigenous says

I'm surprised

Slate has a libby bias?

Oh, great, now we have to endure the blitzkrieg of faked propaganda polls.

Anyway, back to the important stuff: how many drinks did the debate stimulate in the drinking game. I counted about five drinks.

Ranina ranina says

Because you are judging the debate oldstyle...same as cnn.

Trump is a political torpedo electrically fired with safeguards disarmed to disrupt the process.

It's viewed as an asset that he doesn't know shit about politics.

Makes sense, I certainly feel that way about him. Great Point

Ceffer says

Oh, great, now we have to endure the blitzkrieg of faked propaganda polls.

I won most of the online polls, folks. Most of them. But the lyin' media, I mean, they never turn the cameras around to show the crowd. And those things twist like pretzels.
I won most of the online polls. And CNN (BOO, HISS) said I lost. Sad!

Ranina ranina says

Because you are judging the debate oldstyle...same as cnn.

Trump is a political torpedo electrically fired with safeguards disarmed to disrupt the process.

It's viewed as an asset that he doesn't know shit about politics.

indigenous says

I'm surprised

Agreed. This was the reason he got the nomination even after events the pundits said he would not survive. When Hillary said a few Republican "military expert" politicians don't deem him fit, he had the only right reply to say he'd rather take the endorsement of admirals and generals than politicians. That moment was a big score and it went unmentioned.

So CNN is the outlier...

Ironman says

indigenous says

Slate has a libby bias?

Absolutely, that's what surprised me.

I can't believe that Trumpligula ADMITTED his tax returns show he pays no federal taxes, and bragged it was "smart". Isn't that the point when his lawyer would have told him to STFU or plead the Fifth?

This is damning evidence of a Trump Victory...

Ironman says

No polls on Mother Jones, Thinkprogress or Salon.

Interesting. Maybe in this brave new world one can be brash and in your face and it is ok?

he had all the substance-she gasp had the style!

I'm just gonna leave this here.

www.youtube.com/embed/ThwaDSaoGU8

January 2003.

"Perhaps we shouldn't do anything yet. Perhaps we should wait for the UN."

You're welcome for the Fact Check, Lester Holt.

DieBankOfAmericaPhukkingDie says

I missed it

Did Trump shout SUCK MY DICK, AMERICA! as I advised him?

He tried, but he couldn't get a word in edgewise. Besides, it is clear from his debate that it is "FLEECE THE WORLD AND SUCK MY DICK, AMERICA!"

At least he didn't say, "SUCK MY DICK, UNIVERSE!"

Ceffer says

At least he didn't say, "SUCK MY DICK, UNIVERSE!"

Remember, you start with an extreme demand and let yourself be talked down into the position you want.