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September 26, 2016 Presidential Debate


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2016 Sep 26, 8:18am   50,905 views  374 comments

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I hope everyone will be tuning in... Perhaps, we can have some live discussion. Kind of like Mystery Science Theater... only with Patnet members and politics...

For those living under a rock, the debate begins tonight at 9:00 PM EST (6:00 for us west coasters).

So... Any pregame discussion? Are we taking odds on Hillary coughing/tripping/fainting...? Or Trump losing his temper and calling Hillary a "pig...?" Or perhaps bets on how many times he says the word "yuuuuge?"

Finally! Some drama!

#debate

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251   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2016 Sep 26, 8:42pm  

I need a fact checker here: Was Roberta kicked off for fucking kids in the ass in his class, or was it because he was letting them fuck him in the ass?

252   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2016 Sep 26, 8:43pm  

#2, pun intended.

253   turtledove   2016 Sep 26, 8:44pm  

Ranina ranina says

To see whom amongst the card carrying Libbytarians are apostates to be shunned...

It was really weird... The guy's exact words were the people polled were "skewed toward Hillary supporters and democrats. So keep that in mind when you see the results." Heck, why didn't they just limit the poll to Lester, Bill and Chelsea and call it a day?

254   justme   2016 Sep 26, 8:44pm  

Trump is really appealing when he talks about asset bubbles and the ZIRP-y sins of the FRB. But instead of QE/1, QE/2, QE/3 , Trump will probably herald the era of QE/D, QE/D and QE/D. Here, D stands for Donald, meaning that the FRB will give lots of zero-interest interest-only (yes, you read that right) loans to Donald after the current bubble bursts, so that he can buy up the entire country at firesale prices.

The problem is, I am only halfway joking. There is a real danger that Trump and his cornies(*) will basically own you after the next depression, if he gets elected president.

(*) That was supposed to be CRONIES, but it kinda reads well as mistyped.

255   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Sep 26, 8:46pm  

I agree that he wasn't as strong as he could have been. He needed to rehearse some canned answers to get him through the Gotchas, especially on race. He did get 4-5 negative leading questions (IE YOU supported Iraq).

However, the live feedback showed that his best time of the night was when he was hammering on NAFTA and TPP. That's his strong suit, I don't think he realizes how strong it is. It's exactly where Hillary is weakest and least believable too, and hamstrung because if she lies too much to win, it'll haunt her later.

256   Y   2016 Sep 26, 8:46pm  

They were the only ones that would talk to cnn...

turtledove is deplorable says

It was really weird... The guy's exact words were the people polled were "skewed toward Hillary supporters and democrats.

257   Tenpoundbass   2016 Sep 26, 8:47pm  

STA-NAM-IN-NUH

She don't have it!

258   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2016 Sep 26, 8:48pm  

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

I agree that he wasn't as strong as he could have been.

He needs to quit making the duck face when he's on camera.

260   Y   2016 Sep 26, 8:49pm  

There would be no MonikaGate if she had it...

Tenpoundbass says

STA-NAM-IN-NUH

She don't have it!

261   Tenpoundbass   2016 Sep 26, 8:50pm  

Nate aint posted his pol yet. I pretty sure it's going to be devistating. To the Liberals it will them all worried Trump will lose. But we won't give up hope for you guys. I pinky swear.

263   Y   2016 Sep 26, 8:52pm  

Where's that pink panther pussy?
I guess I'd hide too if I was pushing IHLiarry...

264   HydroCabron   2016 Sep 26, 8:53pm  

Clinton cheated by preparing thoroughly and demonstrating superior temperament, maturity, and stamina

265   justme   2016 Sep 26, 8:54pm  

I don't know if you guys can tell, but I'm really getting my nihilism on tonight. I be like, to hell with this shit. I guess this is what "Bernie or Bust" meant.

Well It is time for some exercise. I'm outta here for a while.

266   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Sep 26, 8:58pm  

She was begging fact checkers to bail her out, which was her biggest fail of the night.

267   indigenous   2016 Sep 26, 9:12pm  

I'm surprised but the polls show it decisively for Trump, Woho I will take it.

Still think the odds makers are going to say Clinton

268   Y   2016 Sep 26, 9:15pm  

Because you are judging the debate oldstyle...same as cnn.
Trump is a political torpedo electrically fired with safeguards disarmed to disrupt the process.
It's viewed as an asset that he doesn't know shit about politics.

indigenous says

I'm surprised

269   indigenous   2016 Sep 26, 9:15pm  

Slate has a libby bias?

270   Ceffer   2016 Sep 26, 9:16pm  

Oh, great, now we have to endure the blitzkrieg of faked propaganda polls.

Anyway, back to the important stuff: how many drinks did the debate stimulate in the drinking game. I counted about five drinks.

271   indigenous   2016 Sep 26, 9:16pm  

Ranina ranina says

Because you are judging the debate oldstyle...same as cnn.

Trump is a political torpedo electrically fired with safeguards disarmed to disrupt the process.

It's viewed as an asset that he doesn't know shit about politics.

Makes sense, I certainly feel that way about him. Great Point

272   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Sep 26, 9:18pm  

Ceffer says

Oh, great, now we have to endure the blitzkrieg of faked propaganda polls.

I won most of the online polls, folks. Most of them. But the lyin' media, I mean, they never turn the cameras around to show the crowd. And those things twist like pretzels.
I won most of the online polls. And CNN (BOO, HISS) said I lost. Sad!

273   mell   2016 Sep 26, 9:23pm  

Ranina ranina says

Because you are judging the debate oldstyle...same as cnn.

Trump is a political torpedo electrically fired with safeguards disarmed to disrupt the process.

It's viewed as an asset that he doesn't know shit about politics.

indigenous says

I'm surprised

Agreed. This was the reason he got the nomination even after events the pundits said he would not survive. When Hillary said a few Republican "military expert" politicians don't deem him fit, he had the only right reply to say he'd rather take the endorsement of admirals and generals than politicians. That moment was a big score and it went unmentioned.

274   Y   2016 Sep 26, 9:24pm  

So CNN is the outlier...

Ironman says

indigenous says

Slate has a libby bias?

Absolutely, that's what surprised me.

275   Ceffer   2016 Sep 26, 9:26pm  

I can't believe that Trumpligula ADMITTED his tax returns show he pays no federal taxes, and bragged it was "smart". Isn't that the point when his lawyer would have told him to STFU or plead the Fifth?

276   Y   2016 Sep 26, 9:28pm  

This is damning evidence of a Trump Victory...

Ironman says

No polls on Mother Jones, Thinkprogress or Salon.

277   lostand confused   2016 Sep 26, 9:35pm  

Interesting. Maybe in this brave new world one can be brash and in your face and it is ok?

he had all the substance-she gasp had the style!

278   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Sep 26, 9:36pm  

I'm just gonna leave this here.

www.youtube.com/embed/ThwaDSaoGU8

January 2003.

"Perhaps we shouldn't do anything yet. Perhaps we should wait for the UN."

You're welcome for the Fact Check, Lester Holt.

279   Ceffer   2016 Sep 26, 9:36pm  

DieBankOfAmericaPhukkingDie says

I missed it

Did Trump shout SUCK MY DICK, AMERICA! as I advised him?

He tried, but he couldn't get a word in edgewise. Besides, it is clear from his debate that it is "FLEECE THE WORLD AND SUCK MY DICK, AMERICA!"

At least he didn't say, "SUCK MY DICK, UNIVERSE!"

280   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Sep 26, 9:37pm  

Ceffer says

At least he didn't say, "SUCK MY DICK, UNIVERSE!"

Remember, you start with an extreme demand and let yourself be talked down into the position you want.

281   Ceffer   2016 Sep 26, 9:41pm  

What are the results of IHLlary's "Fuckt Checker?" How many times did Trumpligula fuck himself?

282   OneTwo   2016 Sep 27, 3:25am  

indigenous says

I'm surprised but the polls show it decisively for Trump, Woho I will take it.

Still think the odds makers are going to say Clinton

Anyone being honest would say Clinton was the clear winner in that.

283   indigenous   2016 Sep 27, 6:16am  

Yup I think she won. However she is reprehensible.

**Monday's Presidential debate is now over. Early odds have the Democrats expanding their lead to -250 over the Republican's +190.

284   Y   2016 Sep 27, 6:16am  

Anyone being honest would say that whoever gets the positive bump in the polls is the clear winner...

Rashomon says

Anyone being honest would say Clinton was the clear winner in that.

285   Tenpoundbass   2016 Sep 27, 6:17am  

Rashomon says

Anyone being honest would say Clinton was the clear winner in that.

If we're grading Clintons success on not passing out.

286   marcus   2016 Sep 27, 6:25am  

Clinton won. I doubt you'll even hear CIC denying it. TPB of course will deny it.

Rashomon says

indigenous says

Still think the odds makers are going to say Clinton

Gee, I wonder why. Maybe it has something to do with the price/odds at which they will take bets (on both sides) ? There is no better indicator, and according to predict wise, an aggregator of oddsmakers, the current probability of a Hillary win went from 65% to 73% due to the debate. Lets see where things stand this coming weekend.

Right wing bullshitters have some work to do.

287   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Sep 27, 6:30am  

So far I've watched the first half or so of the debate. One thing that stood out was that Donald looked sicker and more irritable. If I watched that and anyone told me that one of them was hiding a secret illness, I'd definitely guess Donald. Did someone take Donald's orange makeup away from him? His skin tone reminds me of

288   Tenpoundbass   2016 Sep 27, 6:42am  

CNN is the only Poll that says She won.

Trump won over undecided voters last night. I'm sure he didn't shave off any deviant concious Hillary voters.

Those people are as Evil as she is.

Trump did win people that are wondering what will the President do for them and their family.
Hillary is just more of the same. Everyone saw two on one last night. It's undeniabe the way the debates were handled.
And Trump's biggest damage last night started as soon as the debates were over and continues as we speak.
People are researching Hillary this morning. They've been sheltered from the Truth, just CNN watchers this morning are beliving as I type this.
Hillary won 77% last night.

Hillary will most definately get a Nate Silver bump in the pols.
She'll be ahead by 10 points by Friday. But will still be down by 4 points by next debate.

Because Nate is full of shit.

289   marcus   2016 Sep 27, 6:53am  

marcus says

Right wing bullshitters have some work to do.

Tenpoundbass says

CNN is the only Poll that says She won

Like I said, even CIC isn't going to claim Trump won. Did you watch the debate TP ?

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-hillary-clinton-won-the-debate-2016-9

Nobody close to objective thinks Trump won it. Better go back to Brietbart and wait for something you can use comes in. Trust me, they are working feverishly on it right now.

There must be a better way to spin this than, "CNN !"

290   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2016 Sep 27, 6:56am  

Rashomon says

Anyone being honest would say Clinton was the clear winner in that.

Your opinion is really meaningless without even mentioning the incredible bias of Lester Holt.

6 follow ups on trump, none on Hillary.
41 interruptions of Trump, 7 on Hillary.
And false fact checking by Lester Holt...on Trump.

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