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Tenpoundbass says

If they try to even pull numbers out like that during the election

You're confused again. Those numbers are probability numbers, not percentage of votes. Clinton is only up by at most 5 or 6% in the polls. And you're WAY wrong. THe fact that your intellectually dishonest ass can't see the truth about Trump, doesn't mean the election is rigged, just becasue 55% of the population can figure it out.

If anything, the fact that maybe 40% of American's or more might vote for Trump is indicative of things being rigged on an entirely different kind scale. I don't know whether it's some kind of mind control or what. But this makes absolutely no sense.

BayArea says

Imagine how differently you view the world if women compete for you rather than the other way around.

Well, okay, point taken, but slow down a little. Who are the hottest and most awesome American women we have seen fighting over who gets to have the Donald ?

It makes no sense to you, that there are people in this country that are put off by the idea of Bill Clinton scamming his way to a third term?

It makes no sense to you, that there are people so put off by feminism (in it's current iteration), that they would vote for anyone, in order to vote against it?

I'm amazed that you people still don't get it

Hillary Clinton is like chugging milk right out the fridge, without bothering to smell it first.

In that moment when the soured milk taste hit your taste buds, when you first come up for air, you'd do anything to make it go away.

This is Americans duende moment

errc says

there are people so put off by feminism (in it's current iteration), that they would vote for anyone, in order to vote against it?

Is this your confession, my son? Say three Hail #Douchebags and be at peace when you vote.

errc says

It makes no sense to you, that there are people in this country that are put off by the idea of Bill Clinton scamming his way to a third term?

Come on 150. I said it makes no sense that it's 40% or more. And btw, I really do believe Hillary will be driving this time, so it's not a third term for Bill. Although she gets more votes than she loses because of people thinking it's about Bill Clinton being back.

BayArea says

Imagine how differently you view the world if women compete for you rather than the other way around.

I know how it is.

errc says

Hillary Clinton is like chugging milk right out the fridge, without bothering to smell it first.

I missed this at first. I like it. Good one. I'll steal this if you don't mind.

marcus says

You're confused again. Those numbers are probability numbers, not percentage of votes.

She only wins because of her and Obama's foreign invasion. They will both be fired on November 9th.

BLM has been civil church gatherings bah leeb meh!

errc says

It makes no sense to you, that there are people in this country that are put off by the idea of Bill Clinton scamming his way to a third term?

Yes: we shouldn't trust her with our Coors empties because she's the most willful, conniving bitch EVAH, but she'll listen to Bill.

Reminds me of “Trump's actual statements don't represent who he really is, but Bill's skeevy affairs tell us so much about Hillary's character."

Try harder.

Trump is what Trump is, but he is honest about himself. Hillary just bullshits everyone. I'd rather vote for an honest asshole (Trump), than a liar with no integrity (Hillary).

Rew says

I think there is only ravenous illogical support left for Trump. There is also a lot of "keep going, because I cannot admit I was wrong", support too. That later camp will turn into the "election was rigged conspiracy" theorists.

There is nothing much to admit that they were wrong, because on the issues politifact and the media lied and skewed the true/false ratio quite a bit (many things are being revised now that it's "safe" to do so due to Hillary's lead, such as black unemployment, open borders and open trade, as well as Melania's lawful immigration), and issues aren't even discussed anymore at all. The election itself hasn't been rigged, the media coverage surely has been extremely biased. Those throwing in the towel are likely those who cannot afford to "defend" speech that can be interpreted as degrading women, they think of their careers, their wives (esp. betas) and/or kids and social circles, and many have hard choices to make and sometimes a retreat to save the family may be the saner choice for them. There will be the usual set of hard core supporters left, but I agree with the assessment that it is looking quite difficult for the Donald. Either way, this election will go down as a first, being entirely dominated and decided by identity politics while actual issues or policies didn't matter much. Both campaigns contributed their fair share to this. That being said, I'm not sure what happens if the Donald shows up tomorrow and presents himself acknowledging the issues of the past and being apologetic in an empathic way without being defeatist tomorrow. His campaign may change his strategy quite a bit. Also notice how the focus has entirely shifted from racism (and all the other -isms and phobias) to sexism now that the ultimate weapon has been found.

mell says

Those throwing in the towel are likely those who cannot afford to "defend" speech that can be interpreted as degrading women, they think of their careers, their wives (esp. betas) and/or kids and social circles, and many have hard choices to make and sometimes a retreat to save the family may be the saner choice for them.

I don't think many can afford to be associated with Trump. I think the brand is also suffering bigly at the hands of this campaign.

You know what civilization is right? It's a group of Beta males banding together, and kicking the crap out of lone Alphas trying to edge in on their turf. That and agriculture.

marcus says

It's just not that simple. Women will tell you that they hate men that act like pigs, but it's complicated. My guess is that believe it or not, there will even be some women, who switch to being Trump voters becasue of this tape, but not that they will ever know that was the reason they decided in his favor.

@marcus I'm impressed. I think you do understand how things are.

To quote myself: "What is unspoken is hard to hear, but it's always the most important point."

Rew says

mell says

Those throwing in the towel are likely those who cannot afford to "defend" speech that can be interpreted as degrading women, they think of their careers, their wives (esp. betas) and/or kids and social circles, and many have hard choices to make and sometimes a retreat to save the family may be the saner choice for them.

I don't think many can afford to be associated with Trump. I think the brand is also suffering bigly at the hands of this campaign.

You know what civilization is right? It's a group of Beta males banding together, and kicking the crap out of lone Alphas trying to edge in on their turf. That and agriculture.

Interesting, the assumption is that the betas lose the same or even more by being "cucks", but maybe there's another angle here. As a lesser alpha I will examine the situation. I don't mind that band in private life (it may make sense there), but I don't know how this is compatible with a meritocracy since it has been infiltrating public life and the workplace, and how you avoid being eaten by your own eventually if you have a rare slip in "moral conformity".

rando says

@marcus I'm impressed. I think you do understand how things are.

To quote myself: "What is unspoken is hard to hear, but it's always the most important point."

Well thanks Patrick. But I would emphasize that I don't generalize it to the extent you do. Way over half of the women out there were disgusted by Trump before this happened for many reasons. That is, you get so few women that would hate him becasue of this (that didn't already hate him before), that it might net out to be a benefit to him, becasue of a relatively small number of women that would actually like this alpha male behavior. That was my point.

I can't see how it's a big net negative. Some men might even respect it too. But not the ones that already saw Trump as way too much of a risk, and an all around douchebag. But republicans with strong fundamentalist support are supposedly distancing themselves. We'll see. Look at Fort Wayne. What a joke. That guy talks the fundamentalist talk when it suits him. But now he says who gives a fuck about this story. I guess maybe the truth is that fundamentalist Christianity might be all about not sinning, but that doesn't mean certain kinds of sins don't sometimes get respect. YOu know, like fucking hot women (actually - that never was a sin - not even to catholics - regardless of what they said) or killing our sanctioned enemies.

The interesting thing is tomorrow's debate with all of this pressure on Trump. The chances of him doing great or winning seem mighty slim.

rando says

she definitely wants him to make the first move like a kiss, and definitely does not want him to beg for permission first.

That's not what Donald claimed he did. If it were, there would be no problem.

mell says

Either way, this election will go down as a first, being entirely dominated and decided by identity politics while actual issues or policies didn't matter much. Both campaigns contributed their fair share to this.

If just like to point out that the Democratic primary was about issues. The Republican primary was an insult comic show. I have an idea about who led this race into the gutter.

Thunderlips is a Pussy Grabber says

she is (literally her words) for "Open Trade and Open Borders",

Her words were "a hemispheric common market". Common market like Mercosur (Southern Cone Market), East African Common Market, and West African Common market. Not an economic union like the EU. I read that as open borders for trade, not immigration. The traditional definition of a common market. Everyone else reads it the same way except the trumptard apologists and attack dogs.

marcus says

But republicans with strong fundamentalist support are supposedly distancing themselves. We'll see. Look at Fort Wayne. What a joke. That guy talks the fundamentalist talk when it suits him. But now he says who gives a fuck about this story. I guess maybe the truth is that fundamentalist Christianity might be all about not sinning,

The Evangelicals simply presume sin but bank on begging forgiveness. All the #Douchebag need do is apologize and sound as if he's applying for forgiveness and BINGO he's good to go for another round of vulgarity in just a few days.

marcus says

that doesn't mean certain kinds of sins don't sometimes get respect. YOu know, like fucking hot women (actually - that never was a sin - not even to catholics

If we're talking Catholics it's more likely to be really hot young boys.

marcus says

The interesting thing is tomorrow's debate with all of this pressure on Trump. The chances of him doing great or winning seem mighty slim.

I totally agree. With nothing to lose and everything to gain he's going to plumb new depths of cringe-worthy, say-anything, abandon. Wounded animal #DoucheBag here we come.

neplusultra57 says

If we're talking Catholics it's more likely to be really hot young boys.

Hey, what do you think about Jews and Muslims, eh?

neplusultra57 says

If we're talking Catholics it's more likely to be really hot young boys.

More than 99.9% of Catholics are not priests. And a fairly large percentage of priests are not pedophiles. I know you were kidding, but as someone who was raised Catholic, I feel a little defensive about that comment.

You're right, I was kidding and I wasn't talking about you.

Blurtman says

Hey, why do you think about Jews and Muslims, eh?

Because religion is a most important topic these days. Don't you think about it too?

Blurtman says

out Jews and Muslims, eh?

Yeah like hasidics dealing with pedo in community or the closet homosexuals like Omar mateen

neplusultra57 says

Because religion is a most important topic these days. Don't you think about it too?

Personally, I respect anyone who has the faith enough to be a believer, as long as they don't want to force their religious beliefs on me. I find religious bigotry to have similar characteristics to racism, and that is basically applying both good and bad generalizations to individuals.

Blurtman says

Personally, I respect anyone who has the faith enough to be a believer, as long as they don't want to force their religious beliefs on me. I find religious bigotry to have similar characteristics to racism, and that is basically applying both good and bad generalizations to individuals.

Well said. Religion as an inward construct of consciousness is concrete and virtuous. Its externalization is its general corruption. Worldliness and religion are paradox, in my opinion. Ironic, isn't it, that for most people religion must be outed to be of use.

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ttsmyf says

sole leader telling the truth!

Where can you find someone like that?

HydroCabron says

In men-only settings, I have never heard a male seriously talk like this about women.

You Amish or Mormon?

just any guy says

HydroCabron says

In men-only settings, I have never heard a male seriously talk like this about women.

You Amish or Mormon?

You hang out with guys who brag about their sexual assaults?

Outside of insecure teen kiss and tell crap, I've never heard it either. Trump is a good read of people and is desperate for approval himself. View his comments in the light of who he was speaking to.

Still abhorrent. It's validation of a deep character flaw and weaknesses for a would be president.

Trump and his "guy talk" are a problem, but Hillary's corruption and selling government access for donations is not... go figure liberals.

FortWayne says

I'd rather vote for an honest asshole (Trump), than a liar with no integrity (Hillary).

Hahahaha. You crack me up. Trump provably lies at least five times as much as Hillary. Nobody (including Trump himself) has any idea what he really thinks.

FortWayne says

Hillary's corruption and selling government access for donations is not

Unless of course she didn't really do that, and you're just a gullible idiot.

Men who don't have adult male friends really suffer IMO.

Ironman says

HydroCabron says

I have never heard a male seriously talk like this about women.

I doubt you'd hear it in the group of nerds that you hang with.

Rew says

I've never heard it either.

Really, it never comes up in the knitting and needlepoint groups you attend??

Men who don't have sex with women don't tend to have anything to discuss. Even long married dudes have war stories to fall back on.

Gay guys keep it to gay friends I think. Not sure. Id actually be plenty ok with a gay dude talking about sexual conquests. I had a roommate who did...he'd actually make fun of the guys that were feminine, which always made me laugh.

Karma's a bitch.

And what Trump said about his own daughter? That's just fucked up. Dress it up however you want. It's fucked up. Whatever you can say about Hillary, she's smart enough to make sure that there's always a shadow of a doubt. That's what's saved her. Trump's hubris that requires he have the biggest dick in the locker room at all times is beyond stupid. And to a Bush, no less. I'm still too disgusted to even really talk about it. I'm just going to wait for the debate to start. Peace.

turtledove is deplorable says

Dress it up however you want. It's fucked up

I don't think it's that strange to notice that a niece or a student or even a daughter is hot. But to think about it very much ? Or to have so little filter that you can't help but say out loud basically that in different circumstances you would like to "date" her ? That is indeed fucked up. No wonder Trump doesn't drink. If he has absolutely no filter being sober, can you imagine the things he would say when feeling a little uninhibited ?

HydroCabron says

You hang out with guys who brag about their sexual assaults?

Sometimes. It's called being a man with testosterone with desires to have sex. If someone is asexual, I can't understand their perspective but it's far from being a dealbreaker.

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