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http://www.lesneskimortuary.com/

I will miss you Turtledove. Thank you for your wit, intelligence and courage in representing the women on Patnet. Sympathy for her family and their tremendous loss.

Have we been giving Turtledove too much credit?
Anyone on patnet deserves no credit.
They deserve psychiatric care.

Projecting are we?

indigenous says

Projecting are we?

The truth is not always pleasant.

Is that what they are calling it now days?

^She had migraines and was often up late many nights. She fell down the stairs. She was hospitalized, and then she died. That's what we've been told in this thread.
She could have had some undetected trauma (brain bleed or something) or some drug interaction that contributed, but we don't know. We don't really have any right to know any more than what we've been told. Those details are not really of any consequence to anyone here personally other than to satisfy curiosity, so we might as well be respectful, and leave it alone.

TD was one of my favorite regular posters, and it seems that many others shared that opinion.

YesYNot says

TD was one of my favorite regular posters, and it seems that many others shared that opinion.

I know I was busted up pretty good upon hearing of this tragedy.

The funeral service details have been posted in post 180. Are any of the local PatNetters going to pay their respects in person?

I've been sad reading this thread. We love you turtledove. You will be missed courageous lady.

R.I.P!

I'm still stunned by the whole thing. I just met her in person for the first (and last) time in July in SF. Met her kids too. She was great in person, just like online. It's surreal.

YesYNot says

We don't really have any right to know any more than what we've been told.

We already know way more than we would be told in most cases, and we need to be grateful for that. There is already a chance that we have already lost at least one other person, but never noticed except they stopped posting and nobody mentioned it. At least we got some closure here.

zzyzzx is deplorable says

There is already a chance that we have already lost at least one other person,

Rin? Wouldn't surprise me, though, considering the company he hung out with.

P N Dr Lo R says

Rin? Wouldn't surprise me, though, considering the company he hung out with.

What horseshit! There have been numerous folks, before me, who'd f.ucked hoes! And P N Dr Lo R isn't actually original. Even Emmanuel Swedenborg kept telling ppl that he'd spoken to god everyday, as a way of feeling better than those who'd simply f.ucked hoes!

Rin says

Emmanuel Swedenborg

And now, this enlightened dufus will tell us that Swedenborg was a heretic! So typical of a born again loser!

Hoes fuck a lot of people.
People who fuck hoes fuck a lot of people.
AIDS is passed by promiscuous people
Being 'careful' is not bulletproof.
But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your self-inflicted death virus...

Rin says

P N Dr Lo R says

Rin? Wouldn't surprise me, though, considering the company he hung out with.

What horseshit!

Jez, there are some seriously fucked up people here, commenting on an RIP and they turn it into nasty shit all about abusing each other

Patrick says

anonymous says

"Are you suggesting that Ellie Mae is not a woman ?

She is a woman. I'll write her to see if she's OK.

I do think women in general avoid unmoderated forums.

Especially with all the 4 letter words that are so commonly used."

I'm here, am all woman, can hold my own and can swear like a mutherfucker. It is very sad to hear about Turtledove, and (of course) sadder still to read all of the bullshit comments made about the possible causes of her death and to make even a little light of it.. It's a difficult time when a family suffers a loss, and it's a double whammy when someone who was as loyal to Patnet as she is vilified by some of the assholes here. "spousal abuse" - WTF???? "i'm not saying she's alive, but there's some details that don't really feel 100% authentic..." Again - WTF????

I took a vacation from ya'll. I miss some of you, many not-so-much.

Turtledove was well written, spoke her mind and had much more patience than many of you give her credit for. She had a husband, a family, a life IRL. Show some respect, if you can pull it out your ass.

elliemae says

"i'm not saying she's alive, but there's some details that don't really feel 100% authentic..." Again - WTF????

i stand by that - a fall down stairs is the most random fucking thing ever to kill a middle aged adult. and for a shocked husband to take any time whatsoever to email a random fucking loosely connected internet dude is fucking WEIRD.

landtof says

elliemae says

"i'm not saying she's alive, but there's some details that don't really feel 100% authentic..." Again - WTF????

i stand by that - a fall down stairs is the most random fucking thing ever to kill a middle aged adult. and for a shocked husband to take any time whatsoever to email a random fucking loosely connected internet dude is fucking WEIRD.

1. Turtle dove was an online friend
2. I was discussing a real life family issue with her that her husband is eminently qualified to address.

I would say that I was slightly surprised to hear from him, but mostly appreciative. Maybe he just has patients to treat/procedures to do and has to hold it together for the sake of his family at home and work.

If the investigation brings up any signs of foul play, I'm sure it will make the news.

elliemae says

I'm here

Glad to hear?

Turtledove obviously cared about the imaginary friends here at Patnet. One might argue that her husband honored her by letting us know.

I'm actually kicking around driving 500 miles to attend the service. Not sure I can take time off work, I guess I'll let ya'll know.

@elliemae did you go?

If not, any idea if we can get the death certificate? I still don't quite believe it. Turtledove was quite healthy and happy from what I could tell in July.

The memorial celebration is scheduled for December 9, 2016 at 3:30 pm at the Lesneski Mortuary, 640 South Camino Real, San Clemente, CA for anyone inquiring the status. If anything changes, I'll leave a message here. Cynthia

No - I didn't go. I might be able to make it to the memorial. Will keep you posted.

Something funny happened today. I was driving at lunchtime and flipped on AM960 (Bloomberg Radio) at 12:51 and they were just starting to talk about turtledoves (the bird), and how they were in short supply compared to partridges (something to do with Christmas, I suppose).

From wikipedia:

Perhaps because of Biblical references (especially the well-known verse from the Song of Songs), its mournful voice, and the fact that it forms strong pair bonds, European turtle doves have become emblems of devoted love. In the New Testament, two turtle doves are mentioned as the customary offering during the Presentation of Jesus at the Temple.[15] In Renaissance Europe, the European turtle dove was envisaged as the devoted partner of the Phoenix. Robert Chester's poem Love's Martyr is a sustained exploration of this symbolism. It was published along with other poems on the subject, including William Shakespeare's poem "The Phoenix and the Turtle" (where "turtle" refers to the turtle dove).

Sorry to hear about any death of patnet member. We just lost one opinion /idea. She was great and active, also provided female view

http://m.legacy.com/obituaries/latimes/obituary.aspx?n=susann-stephanie-arsuaga-sills&pid=182995109&referrer=0&preview=True

Dang she was a Philly girl at heart, makes sense. She was a tough cookie

Life is short!

Stop stressing about money. Have it as a hobby only!

Live life in the moment. Slow down! Don't pay expensive mortgages! Spend time with your kids and loved ones.

That's pretty it. We are all heading there. Remember it and use it as a tool for a good life.

rando says

I'm still stunned by the whole thing. I just met her in person for the first (and last) time in July in SF. Met her kids too. She was great in person, just like online. It's surreal.

And to think I missed that event because I got stuck in 880 traffic on our way to the BART.
Thank you for sharing.

If turtledove's family sees, this, I am sorry for your loss. Please know that even though I didn't know her, and we didn't even know each other's names, her snarkey (but never in a mean way) comments brightened many a day for me.

It's heartbreaking every time I hear about our poor Turtle.

I was singing Christmas songs with my kids driving home on Sunday, and The Muppets 12 days of Christmas had me a little choked up when Fozzie Bear breaks out Two Turtle Doves 🙁

sugarbean says

http://m.legacy.com/obituaries/latimes/obituary.aspx?n=susann-stephanie-arsuaga-sills&pid=182995109&referrer=0&preview=True

". She served as managing partner and co-founder of the Center for Advanced Genetics, the IVF & infertility practice based in Carlsbad, California.. She served as managing partner and co-founder of the Center for Advanced Genetics, the IVF & infertility practice based in Carlsbad, California."

Too bad she didn't discover a fix for patnetters' retard gene. DOH!

@d40a, so very sorry for your daughter's troubles. You are from TN, but did you know he also is from TN? You say "this is not over yet... mark my words". Is there information we should know?

For those who knew TD:

https://mynewsla.com/crime/2019/04/26/fertility-doctor-arrested-in-connection-with-wifes-2016-death/

This is excellent news. I'm not certain of the guy's guilt, but I truly did suspect him from the first moment I heard of Turtledove's untimely death.

Hopefully the justice system is working as intended.

A San Clemente doctor was behind bars Friday on suspicion of killing his wife more than two years ago.

Eric Scott Sills, who will turn 54 on Saturday, is accused in the Nov. 13, 2016, death of his 45-year-old wife, Susann Stephanie Arsuaga Sills, according to the sheriff’s department. Jail records show Sills was arrested Thursday and is being held on $1 million bail.

There was no immediate information on the woman’s cause of death, a possible motive or what prompted Sills’ arrest.

Susann Sills was managing partner and co-founder of the Center for Advanced Genetics fertility clinic in Carlsbad. Eric Sills is the center’s medical director.

According to his online biography, Eric Sills holds a doctorate from London’s University of Westminster and earned his medical degree at the University of Tennessee. He has practiced in-vitro fertilization in Europe and the United States and authored several books on the topic along with more than 100 peer-reviewed journal articles. He also collaborated on the discovery of three previously unknown human gene mutations, according to his biography.

Eric and Susann Sills were the parents of twins.

Eric Sills was tentatively expected to appear in court in Santa Ana Friday afternoon.

Wow

Patrick says

This is excellent news. I'm not certain of the guy's guilt, but I truly did suspect him from the first moment I heard of Turtledove's untimely death.

Hopefully the justice system is working as intended.

Wow. I always suspected foul play given her age like you say. Feel bad for the kids though. IF he did it, I hope the kids land in a good place. Sad story, but that should be the concern/focus now IF he's convicted. Even if 100% innocent, there's going to be some mental and emotional damage for everyone involved. As you say, let the justice system do its work.

I know some family has visited here, so trying to be tolerant/respectful, but this is turning into a movie or hour long Dateline episode. Wherever the path leads for the people involved, I do hope things end up as well as they can. Never expected to see anything about this again.

Double wow! The husband is always the number one suspect. If he did it, I would assume this was a heat of the moment assault, and not planned.