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elliemae says

"i'm not saying she's alive, but there's some details that don't really feel 100% authentic..." Again - WTF????

i stand by that - a fall down stairs is the most random fucking thing ever to kill a middle aged adult. and for a shocked husband to take any time whatsoever to email a random fucking loosely connected internet dude is fucking WEIRD.

landtof says

elliemae says

"i'm not saying she's alive, but there's some details that don't really feel 100% authentic..." Again - WTF????

i stand by that - a fall down stairs is the most random fucking thing ever to kill a middle aged adult. and for a shocked husband to take any time whatsoever to email a random fucking loosely connected internet dude is fucking WEIRD.

1. Turtle dove was an online friend
2. I was discussing a real life family issue with her that her husband is eminently qualified to address.

I would say that I was slightly surprised to hear from him, but mostly appreciative. Maybe he just has patients to treat/procedures to do and has to hold it together for the sake of his family at home and work.

If the investigation brings up any signs of foul play, I'm sure it will make the news.

elliemae says

I'm here

Glad to hear?

Turtledove obviously cared about the imaginary friends here at Patnet. One might argue that her husband honored her by letting us know.

I'm actually kicking around driving 500 miles to attend the service. Not sure I can take time off work, I guess I'll let ya'll know.

@elliemae did you go?

If not, any idea if we can get the death certificate? I still don't quite believe it. Turtledove was quite healthy and happy from what I could tell in July.

The memorial celebration is scheduled for December 9, 2016 at 3:30 pm at the Lesneski Mortuary, 640 South Camino Real, San Clemente, CA for anyone inquiring the status. If anything changes, I'll leave a message here. Cynthia

No - I didn't go. I might be able to make it to the memorial. Will keep you posted.

Something funny happened today. I was driving at lunchtime and flipped on AM960 (Bloomberg Radio) at 12:51 and they were just starting to talk about turtledoves (the bird), and how they were in short supply compared to partridges (something to do with Christmas, I suppose).

From wikipedia:

Perhaps because of Biblical references (especially the well-known verse from the Song of Songs), its mournful voice, and the fact that it forms strong pair bonds, European turtle doves have become emblems of devoted love. In the New Testament, two turtle doves are mentioned as the customary offering during the Presentation of Jesus at the Temple.[15] In Renaissance Europe, the European turtle dove was envisaged as the devoted partner of the Phoenix. Robert Chester's poem Love's Martyr is a sustained exploration of this symbolism. It was published along with other poems on the subject, including William Shakespeare's poem "The Phoenix and the Turtle" (where "turtle" refers to the turtle dove).

Sorry to hear about any death of patnet member. We just lost one opinion /idea. She was great and active, also provided female view

http://m.legacy.com/obituaries/latimes/obituary.aspx?n=susann-stephanie-arsuaga-sills&pid=182995109&referrer=0&preview=True

Dang she was a Philly girl at heart, makes sense. She was a tough cookie

Life is short!

Stop stressing about money. Have it as a hobby only!

Live life in the moment. Slow down! Don't pay expensive mortgages! Spend time with your kids and loved ones.

That's pretty it. We are all heading there. Remember it and use it as a tool for a good life.

rando says

I'm still stunned by the whole thing. I just met her in person for the first (and last) time in July in SF. Met her kids too. She was great in person, just like online. It's surreal.

And to think I missed that event because I got stuck in 880 traffic on our way to the BART.
Thank you for sharing.

If turtledove's family sees, this, I am sorry for your loss. Please know that even though I didn't know her, and we didn't even know each other's names, her snarkey (but never in a mean way) comments brightened many a day for me.

It's heartbreaking every time I hear about our poor Turtle.

I was singing Christmas songs with my kids driving home on Sunday, and The Muppets 12 days of Christmas had me a little choked up when Fozzie Bear breaks out Two Turtle Doves 🙁

sugarbean says

http://m.legacy.com/obituaries/latimes/obituary.aspx?n=susann-stephanie-arsuaga-sills&pid=182995109&referrer=0&preview=True

". She served as managing partner and co-founder of the Center for Advanced Genetics, the IVF & infertility practice based in Carlsbad, California.. She served as managing partner and co-founder of the Center for Advanced Genetics, the IVF & infertility practice based in Carlsbad, California."

Too bad she didn't discover a fix for patnetters' retard gene. DOH!

@d40a, so very sorry for your daughter's troubles. You are from TN, but did you know he also is from TN? You say "this is not over yet... mark my words". Is there information we should know?

For those who knew TD:

https://mynewsla.com/crime/2019/04/26/fertility-doctor-arrested-in-connection-with-wifes-2016-death/

This is excellent news. I'm not certain of the guy's guilt, but I truly did suspect him from the first moment I heard of Turtledove's untimely death.

Hopefully the justice system is working as intended.

A San Clemente doctor was behind bars Friday on suspicion of killing his wife more than two years ago.

Eric Scott Sills, who will turn 54 on Saturday, is accused in the Nov. 13, 2016, death of his 45-year-old wife, Susann Stephanie Arsuaga Sills, according to the sheriff’s department. Jail records show Sills was arrested Thursday and is being held on $1 million bail.

There was no immediate information on the woman’s cause of death, a possible motive or what prompted Sills’ arrest.

Susann Sills was managing partner and co-founder of the Center for Advanced Genetics fertility clinic in Carlsbad. Eric Sills is the center’s medical director.

According to his online biography, Eric Sills holds a doctorate from London’s University of Westminster and earned his medical degree at the University of Tennessee. He has practiced in-vitro fertilization in Europe and the United States and authored several books on the topic along with more than 100 peer-reviewed journal articles. He also collaborated on the discovery of three previously unknown human gene mutations, according to his biography.

Eric and Susann Sills were the parents of twins.

Eric Sills was tentatively expected to appear in court in Santa Ana Friday afternoon.

Wow

Patrick says

This is excellent news. I'm not certain of the guy's guilt, but I truly did suspect him from the first moment I heard of Turtledove's untimely death.

Hopefully the justice system is working as intended.

Wow. I always suspected foul play given her age like you say. Feel bad for the kids though. IF he did it, I hope the kids land in a good place. Sad story, but that should be the concern/focus now IF he's convicted. Even if 100% innocent, there's going to be some mental and emotional damage for everyone involved. As you say, let the justice system do its work.

I know some family has visited here, so trying to be tolerant/respectful, but this is turning into a movie or hour long Dateline episode. Wherever the path leads for the people involved, I do hope things end up as well as they can. Never expected to see anything about this again.

Double wow! The husband is always the number one suspect. If he did it, I would assume this was a heat of the moment assault, and not planned.

According to users, the 45-year-old was a member of Patrick.net, a social forum where she posted under the pseudonym turtledove. In a thread posted soon after her death, one member, MMR, wrote that Eric Sills reached out to say she had died of an accident.

“I got an email from her husband today indicating that she had passed away,” the user wrote, adding that Sills said his wife suffered from “chronic migraines which kept her up.”

MMR also claimed that Eric Sills said his wife “fell down the stairs early Sunday morning,” an assertion that some found it hard to believe. In another post, MMR alleged that the mother of four had been cremated.



https://www.thedailybeast.com/eric-scott-sills-california-fertility-doctor-arrested-for-murder-of-wife-susann-stephanie-arsuaga-sills

JFC, not that anyone deserves to be murdered, but damn, why TD?

I hope her kids inherited TD’s resolve and intelligence and find some way to be at peace with all that’s happened and find the right path in life.

indigenous says

According to users, the 45-year-old was a member of Patrick.net

Wowzers X10. Have fun with the traffic Patrick. Think we're gonna have some new users....

CovfefeButDeadly says

I hope her daughters inherited TD’s resolve and intelligence and find some way to be at peace with all that’s happened and find the right path in life.

THIS for sure.

This is a helluva shock.

My sympathies for the family.

indigenous says

“fell down the stairs early Sunday morning,”

I see this a lot on Investigation Discovery cases. Such a sad and undeserving end, should have lived another 30-35 years!

She was one of the coolest posters here cant believe she was murdered. I think everybody was shocked with her age and everything that she died from a fall on the stairs.

I bet he was cheating on her.

HonkpilledMaster says

This is a helluva shock.

My sympathies for the family.

Looks like @wookieman was right, this was foul play. Gary territory indeed. Just because it’s a conspiracy theory doesn’t mean that it’s wrong!

Of course now I’m feeling even worse for her twins, who will be left without a parent.

That is quite sad and I feel very sad for her children as well. I missed this thread. I know its too late. Please accept my deepest sympathy to her and her family.

I think the best motive clue here is the life insurance policy.

If I recall, TD's husband had financial problems earlier due to some politics at a clinic he was at. And the article also says that they were self-employed, running a clinic, which usually has a ton of overhead including liability insurances, etc, It's not like in finance, where one's capital is simply about moving others' capital around.

All and all, if the motive is true then it's a matter of disguising a blunt instrument attack into looking like a fall, unless drugs were involved, which could possibly show up in an autopsy report.

An Investigator called me last year, asking me if I have ever been to SF, or the Patnet meet up.
He had some questions because I told her that She must have a cool Husband, and because of my response upon hearing about her death.
I said because she was well liked, it came as a big shocker to everyone at Patnet.
I thought it was weird that I was getting called. I always wondered if he put them on Patnet members trail to shake the investigators off his trail.

Even if you hate your wife how could you kill the mother of your children, if he did murder her for money or it was premeditated in any way he is a psycho.

Tenpoundbass says

I always wondered if he put them on Patnet members trail to shake the investigators off his trail.

Here's the thing, this is an anonymous forum. This isn't some "Rochester University" alumni meetup board, where ppl share a lot of personal history, even if they didn't meet up back in school. And thus, the fact that anyone, like her husband, would even think of "extra personalizing" the anonymous board as way of developing a type of personal narrative, is almost like asking to be investigated.

RC2006 says

if he did murder her for money or it was premeditated in any way he is a psycho

No, just another criminal but of a white collar background. I don't believe a true psychopath would have used PatNet to spread the news. What would have happened then is that one day in 2016, TD stops posting, and that's the last anyone hears about her, swiftly forgetting her in 6 or so months.

RC2006 says

Even if you hate your wife how could you kill the mother of your children, if he did murder her for money or it was premeditated in any way he is a psycho.

Pushing someone down the stairs would be in imprecise way to murder. How do you know the person would be killed? And if not, you go to jail. Heat of the moment more likely, assuming the spouse did it. Of course she may have been killed before, and then a fall down the stairs staged. Blow to the head, maybe, but cervical dislocation, probably not.

RC2006 says

Even if you hate your wife how could you kill the mother of your children, if he did murder her for money or it was premeditated in any way he is a psycho.

Sick bastard.

Why do I have a feeling this will end up as a 48 Hours Mystery on CBS. I wonder if our fearless leader will be subpoenaed to testify to the veracity of any of her pat.net messages.

EBGuy says

Why do I have a feeling this will end up as a 48 Hours Mystery on CBS. I wonder if our fearless leader will be subpoenaed to testify to the veracity of any of her pat.net messages.

It might very well be there. Someday, Patrick, as a new celebrity, may find himself on TMZ.