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Wow, that is quite the profile. Only thing missing is "must be open minded enough to ignore chancers on dick."

RC2006 says

Women go downhill fast once they hit 30s. For men its like 60s and then we die. Women have to exist a lot longer ugly.

I've heard this put as "Women age like milk, while men age like wine."

There is some truth in that no matter how much it stings women.

Rb6d says

Some of that was always there - "bad boys" have always been attractive to womyn. What is different these days is that aberrant (in some ways) behavior is not shamed by society, and while it SEEMS that this lack of shaming benefits womyn, in reality it benefits men more.

Yes, women have been tuned by evolution to prefer men who seem confident, dominant, and independent. They can't turn that off, because it is literally how they came to exist. It's hard-wired into their brains. Women who preferred such men simply had more surviving descendants.

But it's not all men who benefit from the lack of shaming. It's those very men who have that confidence, and those who can fake it for a few hours.

Patrick says

But it's not all men who benefit from the lack of shaming. It's those very men who have that confidence, and those who can fake it for a few hours.

Which is the whole motive behind shit testing: Who is the real Alpha, and who was just "on" that night. However, being aware of the shittest is 90% of the battle.

> Patrick says
> I've heard this put as "Women age like milk, while men age like wine." There is some truth in that no matter how much it stings women.

It shouldn't sting from the rational point of view (lol, how common is "rational"?). Women in their girlie prime are the most desired and the most selfish beings out there (to be clear: this is statistical, not individual perspective, some girls may be outliers) That's how nature works. Milk/wine allegory speaks to nature's way to keep things in equilibrium - statistically, yet again. Desirability between genders is a zero-sum game, so something has to give: desirability of a woman in her prime comes at direct expense of the lack of such desirability at a different point in her life. Men and women simply have different challenges throughout their lifetimes.

And men are fucking lucky not to be at their most desireable when at their most inexperienced, unwise, and ignorant. That is a huge male advantage.

All of the fertility rituals aside, a truly wise, supportive and appreciative woman at any age is welcome by men, even if compromised by age or looks. Women who like men and are willing to engage femininity and charm will have men. The colder and more selfish a woman, the better looking she has to be to get away with it.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

And men are fucking lucky not to be at their most desireable when at their most inexperienced, unwise, and ignorant. That is a huge male advantage.

Sure, being most desirable when at most inexperienced is girls curse. Boys curse is being horndogs at a very wrong time in their lives.
Seeing how nature built us, giving species a chance and making individuals of the species happy are apparently conflicting objectives.

"As a single mother of 3, my children come first. (High Angle photo of cleavage). No Hookups"

"Hi, welcome to The Wall Restaurant, where our service always puts you 4th. Sir, why are you oogling the buffet? Can't you think of anything besides food when you visit a restaurant? Where have all the Good Customers gone"

Patrick says

But it's not all men who benefit from the lack of shaming. It's those very men who have that confidence, and those who can fake it for a few hours.

you are behind the times, @Patrick. With Tinder, nearly any man can get laid.

Rb6d says

you are behind the times, @Patrick. With Tinder, nearly any man can get laid.

Oh, how it would stink to be a man testing that theory, and end up being the outlier that comes up dry.

HeadSet says

Oh, how it would stink to be a man testing that theory, and end up being the outlier that comes up dry.

I've seen soyboys female students here go out with...you would not believe your eyes.

Rb6d says

you are behind the times, @Patrick. With Tinder, nearly any man can get laid.

I will assume that you are being sarcastic..
Family Guy - Tinder makes you gross
https://youtu.be/5ZUeFbU0T08

Booger says

I will assume that you are being sarcastic..
Family Guy - Tinder makes you gross
https://youtu.be/5ZUeFbU0T08

Sadly, no. Younger generation thinks in a different way and for (many or most) of them tinder and similar things are not gross. Times have changed, gentlepersons...

If sluts didn't leave descendants, there wouldn't be any sluts. Nature doesn't regard us as thinking souls, it regards us as fungible reproductive utilities. We either survive through it or we don't.

Higher thinking and higher levels of social organization are only useful to the extent that they promote the species. The Darwinian tailings are tough shit.

Patrick says

So we have an epidemic of sluts, probably no different than during the late Roman empire. In the long run, the sluts will leave few surviving descendants and be replaced by the descendants of devout Mormons, Amish, and Orthodox Jews.

I believe a huge part of this is social conditioning, not genetics.

Ceffer says

If sluts didn't leave descendants, there wouldn't be any sluts. Nature doesn't regard us as thinking souls, it regards us as fungible reproductive utilities. We either survive through it or we don't.

Right, but there are different kinds of selection, called r and K selection I think. There are societies as in sub-saharan Africa where the women are slutty and have to depend on their own grandmothers for help in raising the child. (Which is also very much like black culture in the US, at least nowadays.) But they are weak societies exactly because of the lack of paternal certainty and therefore the lack of paternal investment in the children and the societies.

I'm not saying that sluttery will be eliminated by evolution. I'm saying that cultures that give in to women's demand for shameless sluttery will be replaced by cultures that do not.

Traditions and cultures themselves are selected for over centuries, far quicker than biological evolution. Feminists and leftists are actively trying to destroy the mostly-monogamous culture that brought us down to the present day. In the end, they will just destroy themselves, but other cultures will live and take their place - cultures with more respect for tradition like the three I mentioned.

Rb6d says

I believe a huge part of this is social conditioning, not genetics.

Agreed. One red pill is that the #1 enforcer of women's virtues were... other women. Starting with family members and expanding out to all females.

Women were happy to call out sluts because it removed competitors from the Battle of the Sexes.

Our two major problems is that the Matriarchy endorses "Go wild, then settle later" and that Weak Men can't say No to Pussy. The age differential plays a major role in this. The Matriarchal laws don't help either. And possibly worst of all is the pastors who cave to the Female False Prerogative and don't kick sluts out until they repent.

The feminism stuff, like critical race theory, are subversive designs to weaken society from the inside. Destroy faith and family, demoralize etc. They are vectors of the psychopathic parasites. We are experiencing the predator prey phenomenon from our species predators trying to control us as prey.

Sluts are prone to disease, since pelvic inflammatory disease more often than not results in sterility.

The standard model of pair bonding exists because it is effective in raising viable offspring. Nature also creates a spread spectrum of variable desire complexes that keep a few sluts and satyrs around and active, too, however it may compromise their lives and fortunes as individuals. I guess you could call them the tailings of the evolutionary chisels.

Ceffer says

The standard model of pair bonding exists because it is effective in raising viable offspring.

+ less social upheaval, as you don't have violent hordes of young males with no chance of getting a female and creating a family roaming around. That might have been the reason for initial introduction of monogamy, or something close to it. Most "pagan" cultures of Northern Europe allowed for only one wife, and man could take (or more precisely, HAD to take) the second one only when his married brother died.

Another great reason Women called out Sluts and Female Adulteresses is that their expulsion/execution/divorce allowed proven Males, as Father/Providers, to get back on the market, so other women could sink their claws into them.

It's been said a thousand times, so let's make it a thousand and one: Politics is downstream from Culture. The divorce laws are what they are because of the shift in cultural values to Matriarchy.

Rb6d says

social upheaval, as you don't have violent hordes of young males with no chance of getting a female and creating a family roaming around

I've read that a major cause of the rapid expansion of early Islam was that the men who were taking four wives (or eight-ish if you're Mohammed) were not leaving enough fertile women around for other 3/4 of men.

Solution: Tell them that Allah wants them to own all the women that they can steal from non-Muslims. So you get a bunch of frustrated young men attacking and stealing women from neighboring areas, and turning them into Muslim areas. When the kids from those unions grow up, they do it again, outward in another wave.

https://reclaimthenet.org/law-student-in-scotland-faces-disciplinary-action-for-saying-women-not-as-strong-as-men/

Law student in Scotland faces disciplinary action for saying women “not as strong as men” and have vaginas
She was reported to the university's authorities. ...

“I thought it was a joke. I thought there was no way that the university would pursue me for utilizing my legal right to freedom of speech,” Keogh told The Times (paywall).

“I didn’t intend to be offensive but I did take part in a debate and outlined my sincerely held views. I wasn’t being mean, transphobic, or offensive. I was stating a basic biological fact,” she continued.

Facts are being censored. People are being fired for stating objective provable obvious facts.

Another one:

https://reclaimthenet.org/john-staddon-listserv/

Duke neuroscience professor banned from discussion forum for saying there are two sexes
Professor John Staddon was removed.

A psychology and neuroscience expert has been banned from a discussion by the American Psychological Association (APA) for suggesting there are only two sexes in an email discussion with colleagues.

John Staddon, an emeritus professor of neuroscience and psychology at Duke University, was kicked off the APA’s Society for Behavioral Neuroscience and Comparative Psychology Division 6 listserv.

Speaking to The College Fix, Staddon said he was probably kicked out for writing:

“Hmm… Binary view of sex false? What is the evidence? Is there a Z chromosome?”

Staddon was told he was kicked out for breaking the division’s code of conduct...

Patrick says

https://reclaimthenet.org/law-student-in-scotland-faces-disciplinary-action-for-saying-women-not-as-strong-as-men/

Law student in Scotland faces disciplinary action for saying women “not as strong as men” and have vaginas
She was reported to the university's authorities. ...

“I thought it was a joke. I thought there was no way that the university would pursue me for utilizing my legal right to freedom of speech,” Keogh told The Times (paywall).

“I didn’t intend to be offensive but I did take part in a debate and outlined my sincerely held views. I wasn’t being mean, transphobic, or offensive. I was stating a basic biological fact,” she continued.

Facts are being censored. People are being fired for stating objective provable obvious facts.

University relies on him not suing them. Most kids don’t.

It's a bit off topic, but...

is it just me, or do lesbians seem to hate me, and be angry all the time? And why are they angry at me? Seem to hate me when they don't even know me? I accept them as individuals, and respect their choices. What's there to be angry at me for?

B.A.C.A.H. says

It's a bit off topic, but...

is it just me, or do lesbians seem to hate me, and be angry all the time? And why are they angry at me? Seem to hate me when they don't even know me? I accept them as individuals, and respect their choices. What's there to be angry at me for?

Come on man..

You got something they can only dream of.

RC2006 says

You got something they can only dream of.

Yessir!

I think it starts with a "P"

Only really hot lesbians pay attention to me and want to have orgies.

porkchopexpress says

Only really hot lesbians

I think unicorns may be more common.

Oh, I dunno. When I walked through the multi-disciplinary 'sciences' building at University they had posters on the walls:

"What's the difference between a lesbian and a dyke? About $40K a year. This is a dyke:"

They showed some butch chick with a jack hammer.

"What's the difference between a lesbian and a dyke? About $40K a year. This is a lesbian:"

They showed a hot chick in a short skirt working an office job.

I think BACAH you just don't see lesbians in the bay area because women in general are ugly as fuck up there.

just_passing_through says

I think BACAH you just don't see lesbians in the bay area

I used to get out more. I worked in three different manufacturing sites at three different companies where lesbians had out-sized roles on the manufacturing floor supervisory roles. They were angry just about all the time, and they were mean.

B.A.C.A.H. says

is it just me, or do lesbians seem to hate me, and be angry all the time? And why are they angry at me? Seem to hate me when they don't even know me? I accept them as individuals, and respect their choices. What's there to be angry at me for?

If you want them to like you, you have to flirt with them a bit. Talk to them like any other woman you’re just a little bit interested in. This is what they crave from attractive males of worth: attention. Because most lesbians are rejected women who settled for female companionship. If you treat them like a man or a sexless robot, it pisses them off because they’re still women and you’re actively rejecting them as such.

I’ve taken this road with quite a few lesbians and they seemed to appreciate the interest, and treated me as a friend. One was even a little attractive, and once she got loosened up she was chatting to me about how her wife was pissing her off because since her wife birthed a baby she never seemed to want sex anymore. I just laughed and said I’ve been exactly there.

Shaman says

If you want them to like you, you have to flirt with them a bit

Thank you for your suggestion. Since I retired I don't run into them any more in the workplace. Maybe I should have used that approach.

I really don't care if they like me, but if they were a bit friendlier it would make the workplace more civil for everyone.

I observed this behavior for decades. More hostility towards straight women than towards men, more hostility towards gay men than straight men. A whole hierarchy of hate.

I don't get it. I would think all the hate and anger would be exhausting.

A subset of lesbians are actually afraid of "real" men - but just as contemptuous of weak men, interestingly enough.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

That is one hard 29.



Pic is like the promo pic of an Author who just wrote "Finding your True Love at 49".

yes, step 1 is to tell drunk dudes you're 29. step 2 is to make a matching dating profile. most dudes are losers. she'll find some beta to take her if she presses hard enough.

I've always gotten along with both types just fine. I was never interested in them so...

porkchopexpress says

Only really hot lesbians pay attention to me and want to have orgies.

The only lesbos I’ve seen were fucking ugly, fat, always one young and one old pedo. They make Ellen degenerate look like a fucking model in comparison.

I do think there is a strong motive to "explore" deviant modes of sexuality when you realize that you're not favored in the traditional mating market.

So very ugly women tend to be pushed towards lesbianism, and shorter men tend to be pushed toward gayness.

https://www.psypost.org/2016/11/study-gay-men-tend-shorter-heterosexual-men-45914

Patrick says

and shorter men tend to be pushed toward gayness.

Interesting.

Maybe this explains why so damn many guys I know with Mail Order Filipina Brides are on the short side.