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Where did Russia go?

By someone else follow someone else   2017 Aug 1, 5:49pm 13,502 views   136 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


How come it's not Russia 24/7 anymore on NPR, CNN, and in the NY Times?

Have they run out of lame tenuous connections that no one is buying and which break no laws? Seemed like they could make up a new story every week for the last 8 months.

Or have they realized that investigating further looks more likely to incriminate Hillary than Trump?

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97   jazz_music   ignore (14)   2020 May 13, 7:06pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
jazz_music says
when was orange man EVER good?

You guys would be more productive to be for something
It matters that Trump is a lying greedy grifter and that he never was anything better than that.

Worse men are waiting to step into the position of power and there are issues of survival at stake for us all.

For example the current nuclear expansion may abruptly end us all . We have been incredibly lucky so far.

https://patrick.net/post/1332070/2020-05-09-trump-the-nuclear-antichrist

Ignorance of climate is not going to save us from it.

I understand that since none have job security or pension to depend upon any more it’s like we cannot afford to be civilized, only lay everything at the altar of equity trades, IOW gambling.

This is our status and it’s beyond horrible, it is barbaric and the sooner we change course the more we increase the odds of survival.

Cult doesn’t cut it. Glorious leader is a sham. He may be the greatest expert bankruptcies but liquidating our commonwealth is going to make everything we need too fucking expensive. If y’all have to pay tolls to pay for infrastructure repairs you won’t even be able to afford to drive anywhere anymore.
98   jazz_music   ignore (14)   2020 May 13, 7:25pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
Democrats have only hate for the orange man, nothing else. OK, maybe tranny bathrooms. But that's not a positive unless you are a child molester.
Is it such a great thing to misrepresent the opposition because your rationale is nonexistent or based on cultism?

That’s what the TDS thing is too, no cult ever fails to impugn the minds of the outsiders. Never heard the words “fake news” either until the great liar came into power.

Huh? How about all that?
99   jazz_music   ignore (14)   2020 May 13, 7:31pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

rd6B says
politicians bail them out on public dime. Without bailouts
The worst bailout ever just happened after 2 consecutive devastating tax gifts to the top wealthy few even. Those fucks just love Trump, and while Trump campaigns incessantly the GOP operates in the shadows shutting down any part of government that doesn’t directly benefit the top donors.
100   jazz_music   ignore (14)   2020 May 13, 8:16pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
Not necessarily.

Most regulations are designed to prevent competition by rivals and not to protect the public.
There’s another example of the conspiracy to grab power, with the donors. And it’s GOP that never offers us anything but that, and a leader who covers for all that by selling empty hopes and crucial strategic lies when needed and talks down to us because most of us have fallen for anti-intellectuality, and enjoy laughing at the smart people.

When you talk about “regulations” like that you could just as easily talk about pills that way too. People get addicted, people die, even commit suicide.
101   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 May 13, 8:31pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
and enjoy laughing at the smart people


Again, doesn't that seem kind of self-congratulatory?

This is a major factor in driving people away from the Democratic Party.
102   NoCoupForYou   ignore (2)   2020 May 13, 8:46pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

The thing is, they're not smart.

The smart set spends most of their time attacking actual smart people with amazing track records, like Elon Musk or that guy from the Cold Harbor Lab.

Reusable Rockets? RNA? Fuck that, you don't know about the oppression Left Handed Lesbian Midget Albanian Albinos face on a daily basis. I bet you never read one line of Susan Sontag!
103   jazz_music   ignore (14)   2020 May 13, 9:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
Again, doesn't that seem kind of self-congratulatory?
Again?

No.
104   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2020 May 13, 9:52pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

rd6B says
turn banks into highly regulated public utilities

Do you mean "end the fed"?
105   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 May 13, 9:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

rd6B says
The SOP is as follows: banksters first whine about too much regulations, and when those are removed (after hefty bribes), they go all out with stupid stuff, pay themselves billions, company is driven into ground, and then they go to politicians, bribe them once more - and - voila! - banks are solvent again, but banksters are billions richer.


Yes. I wasn't talking about financial regulations though. Those seem good.

But some "anti-pollution" regulation does little for the environment and a lot to hinder competitors.
106   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2020 May 13, 9:58pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
none have job security

Nonsense!

If you have skills you can put them to use or hire yourself out to someone. If you work hard and are willing to put in the effort you will be successful.

If you're a victim waiting to be made whole by the system you'll be disappointed.
107   jazz_music   ignore (14)   2020 May 13, 10:24pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
Nonsense!

If you have skills you can put them to use or hire yourself out to someone. If you work hard and are willing to put in the effort you will be successful.
Meritocracy fails, some are lucky.

My point is that what you say is laudable but not good enough, not true enough, not even civilized.

Then there are corrupt markets, and privileges inherited etc., etc.

But you don’t feel that, so I won’t argue, you said your piece.

Good health to you, Amen
108   jazz_music   ignore (14)   2020 May 13, 10:31pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
the congressional impeachment process exonerated him.
No Barr may have said that, I’m not sure what that even means in his position, but Mueller emphasized that Trump is not exonerated, and the Senate simply did not get the 2/3 majority votes to remove Trump from office.

Now Trump tweets and repeatedly says he is totally and completely exonerated, but there isn’t any truth to that.

This is the end of truth. Only Trump possesses the truth now. Even if another lie leaves his lips every 83 seconds like during the coronavirus press conferences. The truth is only what the strong inflict upon the weak. Truth is victory, the cult cheers, only the demigod is true.
109   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2020 May 14, 1:15am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
Only Trump possesses the truth now.

Don't worry. He'll share it with us.
110   CBOEtrader   ignore (6)   2020 May 14, 2:21am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
jazz_music says
Deregulation is really bad too


Not necessarily.

Most regulations are designed to prevent competition by rivals and not to protect the public.

John Kenneth Galbraith introduced me to this idea. It seems to be correct.


framing regulation as if it were salt in a soup is the lie. regulation is rules for an industrial game. we need proper rules, not more or less salt in the soup.
111   Brd6   ignore (1)   2020 May 14, 3:38am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
Do you mean "end the fed"?

that would be fantastic
112   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 May 14, 8:15am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says
The VTB/DB note is still in force and ready to describe exactly who owns Donnie the Cunt.


Kind of amazing that Trump has been able to hide that note for so long, with Democrats baying for his blood for 4 years now.

Trump must be some kind of genius, lol.

Or maybe the note doesn't exist.
113   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 May 14, 8:29am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
If you work hard and are willing to put in the effort you will be successful.


Sure, hard work still counts for something in America.

But jazz is right about "privileges inherited". Black and Hispanic people get inherited privileges through the color of their skin alone.

(Non-Jewish) White people, on the other hand, are actively discriminated against because of the color of their skin. They are rejected from universities and not eligible for many scholarships and government programs for no reason other than their race.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/
114   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2020 May 14, 8:31am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Both sides are throwing bombshells at each other. Why do they all turn out to be duds?
115   Brd6   ignore (1)   2020 May 14, 9:05am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
Kind of amazing that Trump has been able to hide that note for so long, with Democrats baying for his blood for 4 years now.

Trump must be some kind of genius, lol.

Or maybe the note doesn't exist.

I am very confident that something like that exists, may be not in writing. In former Soviet Union, crap like that is standard operating procedure. If you deal with E. European crooks, you will get dirty. See Manafort - that is the only thing they could get him for.

Let's not elevate our Great leader to the level 9000 of Infallible, Omnihonest Deity. He is better than Ms Clinton and Mr Biden by a mile, but he is not a saint.
116   Brd6   ignore (1)   2020 May 14, 9:06am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
(Non-Jewish) White people

At universities Jewish White people are discriminated just like Non-Jewish White people at least in sciences/engineering.
117   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2020 May 14, 9:18am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

rd6B says
See Manafort - that is the only thing they could get him for.

Who they? You mean the corrupt FBI?

They investigated everyone around Trump looking for any kind of dirt and the only thing they could find is Flynn talked to the Russian ambassador and Manafort's dealings from long before he ever worked for Trump.

Where's the beef?
118   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2020 May 14, 9:20am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

rd6B says
He is better than Ms Clinton and Mr Biden by a mile, but he is not a saint.

Agreed! Clinton and Biden can't hold a candle to the greatness that is our president Trump.
119   Brd6   ignore (1)   2020 May 14, 9:27am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
The worst bailout ever just happened after 2 consecutive devastating tax gifts to the top wealthy few even. Those fucks just love Trump, and while Trump campaigns incessantly the GOP operates in the shadows shutting down any part of government that doesn’t directly benefit the top donors.

If they would allow rich people to go broke, as opposed to continuously bailing them out with public money and low interest rates, that would not be a problem. If they were incompetent and too self-enriching (paying themselves too much instead of making sure that company does well), they would go broke and JUMP!
120   Brd6   ignore (1)   2020 May 14, 9:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
Who they? You mean the corrupt FBI?

They investigated everyone around Trump looking for any kind of dirt and the only thing they could find is Flynn talked to the Russian ambassador and Manafort's dealings from long before he ever worked for Trump.

Where's the beef?

they got Manafort for his Ukraine dealings, not Trump. Point is that if someone (such as Manafort) deals with E. Europe, you WILL be able to get him as business there is, shall we say, very specific.
With Deutsche bank note, perhaps it does not have trump's name on it, but some kind of shell company/associate or something like that, so they can't get to him, I am not sure as I know nothing more than we can find in media - @AF?
121   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2020 May 14, 10:42am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
Meritocracy fails, some are lucky.

My point is that what you say is laudable but not good enough, not true enough, not even civilized.

Then there are corrupt markets, and privileges inherited etc., etc.

Meritocracy is not a lottery. To be successful you need hard work and talent. If you have little talent you need to work harder.

If you can't make it in the most egalitarian country in the history of the world it might not be the system that has the problem.
122   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2020 May 14, 10:44am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
Onvacation says
the congressional impeachment process exonerated him.
No Barr may have said that, I’m not sure what that even means in his position,

It means our president was not guilty of the trumped up charges that came about after the whistle-blower didn't like the way Trump talked on the phone.
123   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2020 May 14, 10:48am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
Sure, hard work still counts for something in America.

But jazz is right about "privileges inherited". Black and Hispanic people get inherited privileges through the color of their skin alone.

People from the ghetto are successful. People born in power become stripper chasing coke heads. I am not denying that some are born with privilege. I am just saying that America has opportunity for those willing to pursue it.
124   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2020 May 14, 10:52am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
(Non-Jewish) White people, on the other hand, are actively discriminated against because of the color of their skin. They are rejected from universities and not eligible for many scholarships and government programs for no reason other than their race.

No doubt.
I am looking forward to when we "will one day live in a nation where they [our children] will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
125   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2020 May 14, 10:55am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

rd6B says

they got Manafort for his Ukraine dealings,

I thought it was Joe that got Hunter a job? What did Manafort do wrong in the Ukraine during his time with Trump?
126   jazz_music   ignore (14)   2020 May 14, 11:01am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
Meritocracy is not a lottery. To be successful you need
Actually you need to accept the lowest compensation, that is the key qualification.

Affirmative Action candidates you eluded to bring tax credits for selecting one of them.

If you are the best at what you do they will try to replace you with somebody younger who commands a lower compensation and ultimately you become unemployable no matter how great your skill and effort.
127   Brd6   ignore (1)   2020 May 14, 11:02am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
What did Manafort do wrong in the Ukraine during his time with Trump?

Nothing during that time. Before, he was advising Yanukovich in Ukrainian presidential elections and get paid under table, which is normal there.
And yes, it is 100% clear to anyone with a single brain cell that Biden Jr also was bribed. In this particular case, money was even laundered through the least scrupulous of Baltic banks, which is saying a lot (as in most of them have no scruples whatsoever, at least until they are forced to have them).
128   Brd6   ignore (1)   2020 May 14, 11:06am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
If you are the best at what you do they will try to replace you with somebody younger who commands a lower compensation and ultimately you become unemployable no matter how great your skill and effort.

Friend of mine had that issue in an engineering company. He was going to be fired in a month, but then when just hired cheaper youngsters screwed up bridge design, they went back on this and he still has a job. Luck, I guess...
129   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2020 May 14, 11:06am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

We went from Russia Russia Russia
To
Caged children, caged children, caged children
To
Corona Corona Corona

Wealthy assholes on the left won’t give up power easily, that’s for sure. Just have to keep strong and kick their ass constantly.
130   jazz_music   ignore (14)   2020 May 14, 11:11am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

rd6B says
just hired cheaper youngsters screwed up bridge design, they went back on this and he still has a job. Luck, I guess...
It’s amazing that management couldn’t just pull a Trump and claim it is the greatest success.

Such a situation will cost some manager their job every time if they can’t get out in front of it.
131   Brd6   ignore (1)   2020 May 14, 11:17am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
It’s amazing that management couldn’t just pull a Trump and claim it is the greatest success.

Such a situation will cost some manager their job every time if they can’t get out in front of it.

win-win for management
fired him ---> SAVINGS! in salary
did not fire him ---> saved the project!

These days managerial types get cut only in extremely bad situations, as in using wrong pronouns or defying illogical orders of superiors. A former student of mine fixed production error which was interfering with plant operation and was there because manager was stupid, did not listen to engineers, and was trying to be cheap. Company lost hundreds of millions, and manager was pushed out of company...just to be hired as VP for something for a much larger company.
132   jazz_music   ignore (14)   2020 May 14, 11:27am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

rd6B says
These days managerial types get cut only in extremely bad situations,
They promote themselves incessantly to give the impression that they are irreplaceable.

There’s a danger in that too, if the upper management believes that you really are irreplaceable they will require that you have a succession plan in case something should happen to you.

So then you have to cultivate succession personnel that are not viable yet you have to be able to argue that they really are.

So employment is war. For every measure there is a counter measure and on and on until you can get people to focus on something else hopefully more important.
133   jazz_music   ignore (14)   2020 May 14, 11:31am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

rd6B says
to be hired as VP for something for a much larger company
All those jobs are volatile as hell. You can see VPs lasting six months and then I don’t know where they go if they are not well-connected.

To really hold on to a VP job you have to be part of a dominant political party.
134   jazz_music   ignore (14)   2020 May 14, 12:02pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
part of a dominant political party
For example if your friend got his VP job with an engineering company and there are MBA’s holding management positions they will not rest until they get rid of him if he has any background at all in engineering.

The MBAs can’t help but look bad in comparison and they know that so they will swarm like bees until he gets eliminated.

That’s why I say meritocracy is a nice dream that owners wish you all to believe in but don’t ever dare to depend on it being true LOL.

Still, they are all well aware that possessing the moral high ground is essential for them to survive in their positions.

Or have a nice juicy customer in your pocket, there’s job security in that for sure.
135   Brd6   ignore (1)   2020 May 14, 2:41pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
That’s why I say meritocracy is a nice dream that owners wish you all to believe in but don’t ever dare to depend on it being true LOL.

You are right about large companies - they PRETEND that there is meritocracy. Small companies would go out of business quickly if they do not hire good people. And we see the problem again - bailouts of large incompetents just because they have political clout. Let'em go broke, and smaller companies will pick up the pieces...

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