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We all know you hate me, but making up shit isn't the way to deal with your butthurt.

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Why do you think that so many people "hate" you?

You've accused me of it too, which is silly as hell.

Referring to yourself as 'we' is as tribal as it gets.

Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean they hate you

rando says

Can you document the directive?

This was not documented, as administration in most cases is not THAT stupid.

For a case of extremely stupid AND racist please see https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/12/16/job-ad-u-louisville-raises-questions-about-considering-race-faculty-hires.

The post (inactive but still cached here) on HigherEdJobs mostly resembled a typical ad, encouraging applicants “with a Ph.D. in physics or a related area, a strong research record and a passion for teaching” to apply. It also included a standard equal employment opportunity statement saying the University of Louisville is “an affirmative action, equal opportunity, Americans with disabilities employer, committed to community engagement and diversity, and in that spirit, seeks applications from a broad variety of candidates.”

But just under that statement, the ad continued, “The Department of Physics and Astronomy announces a tenure-track assistant professor position that will be filled by an African-American, Hispanic American or a Native American Indian [sic].”

And this did not cause mass outrage, riots, lawsuits, etc which would be expected if the ad would say "white males only".

Quigley says

I never said they were. I was clearly referring to the female lack of an entire chromosome worth of DNA (genes) necessary for maleness. The fact that you got confused shows that you don't understand the subject matter. I shouldnt have to spell out every detail.

You implied that by falsely accusing me of speaking in ignorance and citing specific statements I made that were true.

You should have to be clear what you meant, and in this case you were. You were simply trying to poison the well because you are petty. It's getting tiresome. It's repeated shit like this that got your ass banned from my threads. Try to keep the conversation on topic.

drBu says

ThreeBays says

His discourse turned unproductive due to being disrespectful to whole groups of people.

At my workplace (large university) we got directive coming from the very top to hire only a woman or a minority for the next open position. Is that discrimination or not, and how does that compare with potential minor biases in evaluation?

I'm not sure. Why don't you send an email out to the company asking? Oh that's right, you would be fired on the spot.

errc says

Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean they hate you

Yes. This. Hell, sometimes I even agree with Dan. I even liked one of his posts the other day. I do think he's tragically wrong-headed on a myriad of different subjects, but this makes me either pity him or at the worst, become slightly annoyed. I don't hate. Hating someone is like drinking poison in the hope that your enemy dies from it. Much more damaging to the hater than the hated. I'm not a dummy so I decline to hate.

Dan8267 says

Try to keep the conversation on topic

That's rich, considering your entire last six posts were entirely off topic. The topic was the google manifesto, right?!
Whatever, dude.

Dan you are going crazy man.

Quigley did point out there are millions of chromosomes that don't exist, that's not trivial matter. Why you want to argue there and posture, beats me for sure.

Quigley says

errc says

Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean they hate you

Yes. This. Hell, sometimes I even agree with Dan. I even liked one of his posts the other day. I do think he's tragically wrong-headed on a myriad of different subjects, but this makes me either pity him or at the worst, become slightly annoyed. I don't hate. Hating someone is like drinking poison in the hope that your enemy dies from it. Much more damaging to the hater than the hated. I'm not a dummy so I decline to hate.

Good post. Hate is a strong and toxic emotion, and I reserve it for only the most toxic, harmful people.

Even then, it feels shitty and I'm quick to let it go and move on.

Ain't got no time to waste emoting so inefficiently

Google makes money on advertisers. Advertisers want the diversity pablum because they think it's the norm and many think it should remain the norm, and buy into Sexual Dimorphism Denialism and/or Hormone Denialism (which is what we should call it). Because it was required of them to take Training in Social Justice for any degree they got at most universities. So there it goes.

Just like Advertisers want YouTube vids on makeup application and not on "Moderate" Jihadis in Syria.

One of the best ways to mess with this is to rename popular subjects with "keywords". We could maybe call Diversity "Electronics".

TwoScoopsMcGee says

One of the best ways to mess with this is to rename popular subjects with "keywords". We could maybe call Diversity "Electronics".

Yes, such coding is already being used to make it difficult to censor speech about race: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3821215/Googles-Skypes-Yahoos-Racist-trolls-slang-make-vile-slurs-online-without-caught-automatic-filters.html

We need a few more terms for sure, preferably the brand names of companies that censor politically incorrect speech.

Maybe women = Pinterest, and men = Facebook?

Heraclitusstudent says

Women need to man up

Excellent way to put it!

errc says

Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean they hate you

1. One does not disagree with facts, only opinions.
2. That's not why I said he was butthurt.
3. Coming from you that means nothing.

FortWayne says

Quigley did point out there are millions of chromosomes that don't exist, that's not trivial matter.

Actually, no he didn't, and that's even more wrong than what he said. There aren't millions of chromosomes. You have 46 chromosomes.

Dan8267 says

errc says

Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean they hate you

1. One does not disagree with facts, only opinions.

2. That's not why I said he was butthurt.

3. Coming from you that means nothing.

Coming from you, that's a compliment.

You're still butt hurt over me pointing out that your jokes suck!! Haha. Get over yourself, honey!

You are what you hate, but don't worry, that's one tribe you are a part of. Many others just like you!

You rail on and on about conservatives and tribalism like it's sooo bad, yet you try really hard to participate! However, your words reek of someone that was never invited into many groups. Sad to be so lonely, honey

@patrick there you go, I edited it to your liking.

It's funny that in one thread you literally wished death upon me, and in another, you're protecting the thin skin of this Special Snowflake, from hearing the truth

Bizarro world

errc says

Coming from you, that's a compliment.

In your Bizarro world, it probably is.

errc says

You're still butt hurt over me pointing out that your jokes suck!!

Sorry honey, but I never gave a damn about your opinion.

errc says

Get over yourself, honey!

Don't be jealous of my confidence simply because you are an insecure beta male cuck.

errc says

You rail on and on about conservatives and tribalism like it's sooo bad, yet you try really hard to participate! However, your words reek of someone that was never invited into many groups. Sad to be so lonely, honey

You are projecting.

However, your post does show that you really care and think a lot about me. I can't say I return the favor.

rando says

TwoScoopsMcGee says

One of the best ways to mess with this is to rename popular subjects with "keywords". We could maybe call Diversity "Electronics".

Yes, such coding is already being used to make it difficult to censor speech about race: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3821215/Googles-Skypes-Yahoos-Racist-trolls-slang-make-vile-slurs-online-without-caught-automatic-filters.html

We need a few more terms for sure, preferably the brand names of companies that censor politically incorrect speech.

Maybe women = Pinterest, and men = Facebook?

Heraclitusstudent says

Women need to man up

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Pinterest has little interest in coding, while Facebook seems to be drawn to this type of work.

There is nothing remotely liberal about Google's actions. Liberalism is exactly the solution to this problem.

Dan8267 says

There is nothing remotely liberal about Google's actions. Liberalism is exactly the solution to this problem.

Not googles verison of liberalism

rando says

We need a few more terms for sure, preferably the brand names of companies that censor politically incorrect speech.

Maybe women = Pinterest, and men = Facebook?

That's brilliant, and you thought of it only 43 years after Gore Vidal did that in his 1974 novel Myron.

BTW, Gore Vidal was gay, and the title character Myron was a transsexual in the novel and the movie.

FortWayne says

Not googles verison of liberalism

There is only one version of liberalism. Mislabeling something just to poison the well is not valid.

Would you accept defining conservationism as the belief in molesting children? Well, then you don't get to attack liberalism by associating it with a conservative tribe.

Liberalism is about liberty, hence the very name. It's the liberty to do whatever you want as long as you aren't infringing upon the rights of others. Just because you cannot make any convincing argument against this does not mean we will accept your lies that the exact opposite of this is connected to this.

Dan8267 says

errc says

Coming from you, that's a compliment.

In your Bizarro world, it probably is.

errc says

You're still butt hurt over me pointing out that your jokes suck!!

Sorry honey, but I never gave a damn about your opinion.

errc says

Get over yourself, honey!

Don't be jealous of my confidence simply because you are an insecure beta male cuck.

errc says

You rail on and on about conservatives and tribalism like it's sooo bad, yet you try really hard to participate! However, your words reek of someone that was never invited into many groups. Sad to be so lonely, honey

You are...

Lol. Look, dan finally made a funny. Congrats!

Dan8267 says

Would you accept defining conservationism as the belief in molesting children? Well, then you don't get to attack liberalism by associating it with a conservative tribe.

I'm not comparing it, I'm just seeing what liberalism got perverted into by modern society of SJW culture.

FortWayne says

Would you accept defining conservationism as the belief in molesting children? Well, then you don't get to attack liberalism by associating it with a conservative tribe.

I'm not comparing it, I'm just seeing what liberalism got perverted into by modern society of SJW culture.

That is the closest thing to the truth you have ever written, but it's still wrong. The left only perverts the label of liberalism, not what liberalism really is. The left tried to ride the coattails of liberalism just like the alt+right does with so-called neo-liberalism, which has nothing to do with liberalism either.

Nonetheless, you still can't make an argument against real liberalism even though you despise it.

Dan8267 says

That is the closest thing to the truth you have ever written, but it's still wrong. The left only perverts the label of liberalism, not what liberalism really is. The left tried to ride the coattails of liberalism just like the alt+right does with so-called neo-liberalism, which has nothing to do with liberalism either.

Nonetheless, you still can't make an argument against real liberalism even though you despise it.

All right mr. smarty pants what's the difference between left and liberalism?

FortWayne says

All right mr. smarty pants what's the difference between left and liberalism?

The question you should be asking is what's the difference between the left and the right. The two conservative tribes are nearly identical. Their differences are only arbitrary preferences like red vs blue.

Seriously, have you still not read the thread I've referred you to a dozen times by now? Read Leftists and Social Justice Warriors are Conservatives. It explains everything clearly.

landtof says

Dan8267 says

However, your post does show that you really care and think a lot about me. I can't say I return the favor.

you look just like a guy, a guy who's just walking down the street... that puts a lot of dick in his mouth.

Consider yourself banned!

Homophobia is a sign of a weak, petty mind.

errc says

Consider yourself banned!

anything to do with faggotry pulls a lot of triggers around here. we have the most sensitive gays here, folks. the most sensitive.

rando says

Note that that book and movie is as much propaganda as history, with fiction deliberately created to fill in where reality did not conform well enough to the narrative:

Is Jim Parsons' character, NASA engineer Paul Stafford, based on a real person?

No. In fact-checking the Hidden Figures movie, we learned that white collar statistician Paul Stafford, portrayed by Jim Parsons, is a fictional character. He was created to represent certain racist and sexist attitudes that existed during the 1950s.

You obviously didn't read the book you are making comments on. That's too bad, it's an excellent book. There is nothing fictionalized in it. Give it a read then come back and comment from a basis of knowing what you are talking about.

The movie is "based on" the book. There are a number of scenes, story lines, and people in the movie that didn't exist in the book. The movie makes no claim it follows the book faithfully or to be a documentary. You read that in for your own propaganda. Movies are entertainment. I have yet to see a movie that faithfully follows a non fiction book. Are they all propaganda?

rando says

It also exaggerates racism for propaganda purposes:

Why didn't you bold the part that said "I knew it was there". She said it existed but she personally didn't feel it. I guess you aren't above a little propaganda yourself either. Again, you need to read the book to know what you are talking about. Read the rocket girls while you are at it. Another good book about women's contribution to the space program.

Dan8267 says

Homophobia is a sign of a weak, petty mind.

One homophobe disliked the above comment. So sad.

Dan8267 says

One homophobe disliked the above comment. So sad.

wasn't me dan, i thought it was pretty fucking hilarious that you and CiC wanted to meet up and make out.

CIC was a major homophobe. I thought it would be funny to have him come to a restaurant full of gay men who would beat the crap out of him when he started his gay bashing rant, which you know he would have. Unfortunately, the coward didn't show up. I was planning on posting the video on YouTube and linking to it on PatNet. Now that would have been funny, seeing a gay bashing troll getting beat up in real life by pissed off gay men, or better yet, pissed off lesbians.

It's sad how authoritarian liberals get.

FortWayne says

It's sad how authoritarian liberals get.

Again, you're thinking of conservatives. They are the ones that tell you that you can't
- be nude in public
- say hateful things
- swear on television and radio
- burn a flag
- fly the KKK Confederate battle flag
- marry someone of the same sex or of a different race
- blasphemy
- buy alcohol on Sundays
- watch porn
- engage in witchcraft
- like an ISIS video on Facebook
- smoke pot
- tell a cop to fuck off
- tell a judge to fuck off
- have a truly private conversation with someone

Yep, that's all conservatives. They suck.

SJW and the left are not conservatives. They want change. They are progressives. It may not be change for the better. But unlike conservatives, they do not want status quo.

Conservatives demand change all the time when the status quo doesn't conserve their culture. Conservatives demanded changes like
- outlawing alcohol
- outlawing various drugs including weed
- banning transgenders from serving in the military
- banning flag burning
- deregulating industry
- ending anti-trust enforcement

Conservatism is about conserving a tribe's arbitrary culture.

Dan8267 says

Again, you're thinking of conservatives. They are the ones that tell you that you can't

- be nude in public

- say hateful things

- swear on television and radio

- burn a flag

- fly the KKK Confederate battle flag

- marry someone of the same sex or of a different race

- blasphemy

- buy alcohol on Sundays

- watch porn

- engage in witchcraft

- like an ISIS video on Facebook

- smoke pot

- tell a cop to fuck off

- tell a judge to fuck off

- have a truly private conversation with someone

Yep, that's all conservatives. They suck.

Conservatives suck is a tautology, however every society has norms. Enforcing them is not a negative thing.
Here we some illiberal leftists trying to force their ideal (not a norm). It doesn't matter if they want to do good. They shouldn't force it on other people.

As a comparison, communists also initially started with some very generous ideas: making people more equal. They tried to impose it. When that didn't work they started killing anyone suspected of opposing them. In several countries, this led to a massacre of millions. All this because of trying to force an ideal on the world. The world doesn't respect ideals. There is no equality in life. This is just a fact. You have to appreciate the world the way it is.

Dan8267 says

Mislabeling something just to poison the well is not valid.

Tell that to Jesus when you meet Him.