« First « Previous Comments 142 - 181 of 293 Next » Last » Search these comments
We are having one. Broward and the Gun Banners are saying a 3100+ campus with a single security guard or checkpoint = "Did everything possible" when it didn't.
There was NO Security
"Here's an idea; let's not forcibly hospitalize crazy kids who make repeated violent threats and exhibit a litany of red flag behaviors, that would be an imposition on FREEDOM and HUMAN RIGHTS! instead, let's restrict Gun Rights for the entire population."
Can we stop pretending that if one proposed solution doesn't solve the entire problem that its not worth doing??
Can we stop pretending...
LeonDurham saysIf you want to have a real discussion about how to stop more of these shootings, I'm game.
We are having one. Broward
I've been asking for SPECIFIC solutions, but all I've seen are generic Liberal MSM anti-gun talking points.
Why is that?
They're talking points because...
How many other shootings took place after people knew the shooter was trouble and did nothing?
Talking points but no solid workable realistic solutions.
It's not practical to require background checks at gun shows?
It's not practical to keep mentally ill people from getting guns?
TwoScoopsPlissken says
Killing intruders, deer, and target shooting as well.
It's like saying cars should be banned because their only purpose is to run over people.
If someone needs an AR-15 to hunt deer, they should probably get a new hobby.
Let's get real here.
If someone needs an AR-15 to hunt deer, they should probably get a new hobby.
Gun show background checks go on ALL the time.
Even if gun retards were to be intellectually honest for a nanosecond they'd admit that no ban on 2A rights is worth saving the lives of children. Here's the thought experiment:
If a BAN on some firearms led to an absolute eradication of mass killings in America would you or would you not vote against it? See, they'll either beg the question, like Cucked Cunts or they'll run away and resume the stupid argument that perfection is necessary. OK, Cunt Cucks: prison sentences don't stop bank robbery, therefore MAKE BANK ROBBERY LEGAL.
Morons.
If a BAN on some firearms led to an absolute eradication of mass killings in America would you or would you not vote against it? See, they'll either beg the question, like Cucked Cunts or they'll run away and resume the stupid argument that perfection is necessary. OK, Cunt Cucks: prison sentences don't stop bank robbery, therefore MAKE BANK ROBBERY LEGAL.
So that's why it's called the gun show loophole.
And they have automatic badges. Everyone doesn't check in with a security guard.
But if you don't have a badge, the guard doesn't let you pass. And insists you get a visitor badge or register a book or otherwise identify yourself. C'mon, this is obtuse now.
Agreed. It is obtuse. Are you going to give every parent a badge then? And every kid?
Agreed. It is obtuse. Are you going to give every parent a badge then? And every kid?
Should anti-depressant prescription disqualify you from gun ownership?
We need more TEACHERS! Thousands of them at $50k+/year!
We need to double spending in our SCHOOLS! Nothing too good for our Kids!
Increase the pensions! Increase the training budget! We need more Admins of Welcoming Diversity! Fund our schools, Evil Republicans!
"How about a security guard at the entrance?"
NOOOOO! That would cost ZILLIONS! Just add extra layers of bureaucracy to buy a gun, or better yet, Ban Semi-Auto Rifles!
Raze all the schools in this country, sell the School Buses off to foreign countries, and make Public Education something we do from home on our Government Internet.
anon_46fb4 saysEven if gun retards were to be intellectually honest for a nanosecond they'd admit that no ban on 2A rights is worth saving the lives of children. Here's the thought experiment:
If a BAN on some firearms led to an absolute eradication of mass killings in America would you or would you not vote against it? See, they'll either beg the question, like Cucked Cunts or they'll run away and resume the stupid argument that perfection is necessary. OK, Cunt Cucks: prison sentences don't stop bank robbery, therefore MAKE BANK ROBBERY LEGAL.
Morons.
The real morons are the idiots who create straw man hypotheticals that distorts the facts. The facts are Guns don't kill. Some people are killers. Here's a thought experiment, if putting all murderers to death eradicated murder, would you execute the murderers or let them live?
I for one don’t thing a Security Guard is going to deter, let alone stop these types of mass murders from happening.
Yup. So now, admit that saving everyone from mass killings still wouldn't convince the gun retards to mitigate their rights to shoot things. Saving children just doesn't matter enough. Proved! Case Closed!!
If a BAN on some firearms led to an absolute eradication of mass killings in America would you or would you not vote against it?
errc saysI for one don’t thing a Security Guard is going to deter, let alone stop these types of mass murders from happening.
Do we see as many mass shootings at sports arenas, concerts, political rallys, airports, police stations, government buildings, etc.
Why have these mass shootings been at schools, churches, theaters, nightclubs and malls?
We need more TEACHERS! Thousands of them at $50k+/year!
We need to double spending in our SCHOOLS! Nothing too good for our Kids!
Increase the pensions! Increase the training budget! We need more Admins of Welcoming Diversity! Fund our schools, Evil Republicans!
"How about a security guard at the entrance?"
NOOOOO! That would cost ZILLIONS! Just add extra layers of bureaucracy to buy a gun, or better yet, Ban Semi-Auto Rifles!
Presumably because they’re being committed by children/students, and the schools are the institutions they most commonly attend
errc saysPresumably because they’re being committed by children/students, and the schools are the institutions they most commonly attend
Wrong answer, as all the mass shootings were committed by adults, since children can't purchase firearms.
This is why it's impossible to have an honest discussion. One side wants nothing to do with it.
Psychotropic prescription industry is closer to a thing that can be identified as a cause than availability of guns.
Guns make it worse, so could bombs too.
Bombs can be made from things very hard to control. If you control guns you might start seeing more bombings.
... Jazz being the exception.
Aren't SSRIs already issued with warnings about their impact on youths/teens? I seem to remember it was shown that SSRIs reduce inhibitions to violent behavior.
One side entirely dismisses the fact the school of 3100+ people had absolutely no checks to stop strangers from entering at a whim
« First « Previous Comments 142 - 181 of 293 Next » Last » Search these comments
High school kids have ~50 years of unrealized labor potential, at a ballpark of 50k per year.
2,500,000 x 17 = $42,500,000 in lost potential wages
17 families will now have to bury a child. Average cost of funeral service 10k = $170,000
Let’s say on average 50 people attend each funeral, so they have to take a day or two of unpaid bereavement leave.
850 people x $500 in lost wages= $425,000 in lost wages
It’s not cheap to travel with no notice for planning, so we’ll use an average $1,000 per person = $850,000
100’s maybe 1,000s of survivors will now suffer from PTSD, which is hard to calculate costs but easily into the millions = $100,000,000- $1,000,000,000
So we’re already potentially north of 1 billion dollars in costs, without even beginning to consider all the ancillary costs to come, so we can pause and move over to the benefit side of the analysis.
Benefits
A gun manufacturer made a sale of ~1,000 which netted them a hundred or two in profits.
So who gets stuck with the tab for another gun nut taking his lame hobby of target practice to the local high school?
Oddly, not the gun maker. Because your halfwit Republican Government says that the gun worked as intended, to turn teenagers into bloody chunks.