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This thread title is so easily disproven it is a monument to the power of propaganda.

https://americasvoice.org/trumphatemap/
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-trump-supporters-are-getting-so-violent-2016-10
https://www.yahoo.com/katiecouric/2018-summer-hate-america-caught-tape-170729949.html

Trump even encourages violence at his rallies:

“There may be somebody with tomatoes in the audience,” Trump warned people at a rally in Iowa last month. “If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell — I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees.”

Aphroman says

Meanwhile the Right is taking a page out of the Conservative Islamic playbook and plowing into crowds committing murder

The guy was fleeing from Leftist violent Liberal Commies. Three people hit the car with aluminum ball bats after the crash.

Liberals are Thugs, and he was fearing for his life.

Cop to Liberal thugs:"Why did you run? You caused a 5 car collision that killed three people."
Thug:"I was scared!"
Liberal Press: "Those insufferable Cops terrorizing Black people!"

Aphroman says

and you see the danger as the people who hit his car with a bat

The people w bats and bricks showed up to a planned rally with expressed intent of violently oppressing 1st amendment rights.

This Fields kid overreacted and killed that girl. He will be punished accordingly.

Someone overreacting to being cornered by a violent mob has nothing to do with political ideology, and everything to do with this kid's inability to deal w a stressful situation. Patrick's post is about political ideologies warping soft minds into violence.

Show us a scene where trump supporters outnumber and violently bully someone. You can't, because that only happens on the left.

Walk around with a Hillary hat and sticker on car nothing happens, do the same with Trump stuff attacked/harassed and car keyed/destroyed.
Right wing gatherings get disrupted by left, left wing gathering nobody on the right cares.
Both sides have there crazy fringe but on the left it completely dwarfs the right and has became normalized.

Aphroman says

CBOEtrader says

Aphroman says

and you see the danger as the people who hit his car with a bat

The people w bats and bricks showed up to a planned rally with expressed intent of violently oppressing 1st amendment rights.

This Fields kid overreacted and killed that girl. He will be punished accordingly.

Someone overreacting to being cornered by a violent mob has nothing to do with political ideology, and everything to do with this kid's inability to deal w a stressful situation. Patrick's post is about political ideologies warping soft minds into violence.

Show us a scene where trump supporters outnumber and violently bully someone. You can't, because that only happens on the left.

Are you familiar with the events surrounding the incident where the Right winger went Conservative Islamic ...

Sure you can focus on one thing for every 100 the left does.

Republicans just playing baseball not even doing anything at a rally or protest just playing baseball, would have been totally slaughtered if not for a body guard.

Republicans just trying to have a meal nothing else, harassed denied service.

This shit is happening constantly and is just pushing what sane people are in the democratic party away. Eventually people on the right are going to loose their shit to then things are going to escalate really fast between both sides.

This is a damning indictment...

CBOEtrader says

Show us a scene where trump supporters outnumber and violently bully someone. You can't, because that only happens on the left.

RC2006 says

Eventually people on the right are going to loose their shit to then things are going to escalate really fast between both sides.

Exactly correct.

and these are the crazy lunatics who own all the guns.

It won't be pretty.

LeonDurham says

Trump even encourages violence at his rallies:

That old conspiracy theory? What’s next? Trump kidnapped the Lindbergh baby?
It is to laugh.

Even Iwog almost got assaulted at a left wing rally at Berkeley because he was white and had a camera.

www.youtube.com/embed/hQpf1UQfPz4

Something to laugh about for a while

Aphroman says

RC2006 says

Aphroman says

CBOEtrader says

Aphroman says

and you see the danger as the people who hit his car with a bat

The people w bats and bricks showed up to a planned rally with expressed intent of violently oppressing 1st amendment rights.

This Fields kid overreacted and killed that girl. He will be punished accordingly.

Someone overreacting to being cornered by a violent mob has nothing to do with political ideology, and everything to do with this kid's inability to deal w a stressful situation. Patrick's post is about political ideologies warping soft minds into violence.

Show us a scene where trump supporters outnumber and violently bully someone. You can'...

Black lives matter shooter killed 4 (?) cops out of cold blood.

Quigley says

www.youtube.com/embed/hQpf1UQfPz4

Something to laugh about for a while

When a mob is threatening you, rolling over them w your car may be a rational decision.

Quigley says

That old conspiracy theory? What’s next? Trump kidnapped the Lindbergh baby?
It is to laugh.

Conspiracy theory? I provided a direct quote for God's sake. What more evidence do you need??

Patrick says

ONLY the left is violent

That's because they're sooo tolerant!

@jazz_music
@Aphroman
@LeonDurham

While I certainly don't have a bone in this fight(haven't voted for years, don't believe in any president making my life better), I have to side with Patrick given that he's listed so many specific incidents showing Trump supporters being assaulted, and the three of you, despite all your comments, seem to have at the most one link that shows Trump supporters assaulting others.

How is this even a debate? Leftist/Democrats created their own "brown shirt" wing called "ANTIFA". Their emblem even looks the same.

jazz_music says

The FBI has identified right wing groups as the number one threat in America for about 22 years now.

During the past decade we have witnessed dramatic changes in the nature of the terrorist threat. In the 1990s, right-wing extremism overtook left-wing terrorism as the most dangerous domestic terrorist threat to the country.

https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/testimony/the-terrorist-threat-confronting-the-united-states

We do live in a post-truth country now.

That was from before Trump was elected. Back when he was celebrated by the same people that suffer from TDS now.

Got one incident of "right wing violence" lately?

jazz_music says

As just one example, white supremacists attacked a pair of Middle Eastern men on New Year’s Eve in 2011, punching one victim in the face and head.

I stand corrected. Those white supremists are violent.

Well iwog did play a part in that by calling the kiddie libbie a little shit...
theoakman says

Even Iwog almost got assaulted at a left wing rally at Berkeley because he was white and had a camera

Why don't you repost it without your commentary that got it ejected?
That would be evidence in your favor.
jazz_music says

Patrick deleted that thread, but the links are still on the interne

Aphroman says

Are you familiar with the events surrounding the incident where the Right winger went Conservative Islamic and raced his car into a crowd of Americans, murdering one of them?

I don't associate with and refuse to be lumped together with nazis.

jazz_music says

ANTIFA is not connected to any party or organization.

ANTIFA itself is void of organization and structure.

Can you provide any examples of Antifa protesting or beating the shit out of any Left Wing groups like they do Conservative groups all over the country?

Onvacation says

I don't associate with and refuse to be lumped together with nazis.

You still owe us a Nazi Organization sign up recruitment website, and a real movement where people are meeting and organizing.
Otherwise we all know the KKK, NAZIs are the LARPER division of Antifa the True American Facsit Nazis.

Stop with the bullshit spin everyone sees right through it. NPR was even hitting it hard today describing what we've seen for the last two years from Antifa to the Letter. Yet blaming the Nazis and trying to say that Nazis are Trump voters. Very disgusting and transparently stupid.

I told a 60+ year old Lawyer hag who was yelling at me for liking Trump. Her son was going to get killed one day out there LARPING for George Soros as ANTIFA beating on people like me. What do you think will happen when they call in the guard? Just like the Four Dead in Ohio. I then told her I'm going to be cheering at his funeral.

Her heart dropped she knew exactly what I was saying. She didn't deny her son is an ANTIFA Pawn.

The first side to accuse the other of being Nazis loses the debate by that accusation alone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that, when a Hitler comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever made the comparison loses whatever debate is in progress. This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law.

jazz_music says

You can side with Patrick because I haven't provided the links to off set his.

Especially after my post got deleted last night.

Repost them here. Seems like the place for a rebuttal with backup.

Think Patrick and others have stated it before. Sometimes I wonder if the left in the US and Europe are being munipulated into pushing the right over the edge.

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/08/01/hit-and-run-trump-bumper-sticker-hyannis/

Another data point.

If the left stood up to it's own extremists this wouldn't happen.

CBOEtrader says

If the left stood up to it's own extremists this wouldn't happen.

www.youtube.com/embed/KZJLPjEF_F0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=R1RQ4--u53o

^^ exactly.

Show me the outrage from left towards idiots like this. Instead he gets a standing ovation, and MSM praise.

Yeah, sorry, as long as this is happening noone can pretend the violent leftists are fringe.

What a despicable antifa thug, cowardly pepper-spraying the MAGA girl. Sad.

LeonDurham says

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=R1RQ4--u53o

Yep, Trump said "in the old Days... I wish I could."

Dorkbag was suggesting people do so now, in the present day, with no wishes or qualifiers.

Also, the other half is missing - nobody popped anybody in the former, but many attacks after the latter.

Patrick says

The first side to accuse the other of being Nazis loses the debate by that accusation alone.

Donald Trump Jr. likened the Democratic Party’s platform to that of the Nazis during the 1930s during an appearance at a film screening Wednesday night, saying comparisons between the group and conservatives are the product of “wrongly influenced” academia.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/02/donald-trump-jr-democrats-nazis-platform-760569

Joe Biden “They asked me would I like to debate this gentleman, and I said no. I said, ‘If we were in high school, I’d take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him.’”
I would pay to watch that fight.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-liberals-antifa-violence-20170718-story.html

There have been no right-wing groups storming campuses and flinging feces at speakers we don’t like; no tea party mobs destroying property, assaulting police officers, and paralyzing our major cities; and no Republican senators calling their colleagues murderers just weeks after a political assassination attempt.

From Portland to New Haven to Washington, the violence we’re witnessing is largely a product of the hard left, and the reaction from mainstream liberals — mostly silence, dismissiveness, equivocation — means it will continue to flourish.

To move toward a less violent and hyper-charged society, we must be clearheaded about violence where we see it, and not avoid the subject. We must condemn it without conditions.

If you think Republicans are murderers, you’re an extremist. If you’re trading in that kind of rhetoric just to shut the other side up or raise a buck, you’re giving cover to extremists. And if you object to political violence but fail to speak out, your weakness is causing our society to fracture.

It’s time for liberal America to speak out against violence and the rhetoric that incites it.

I didn't hear Patrick or any right wingers on this forum denounce the right wing hate that triggered the Gabby Giffords shooting. Nor did they want to acknowledge that the guy was obviously affected by right wing hate promoted on talk radio.

Tihs is the way the left discusses such things: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/01/did-sarah-palin-s-target-map-play-role-in-giffords-shooting/342714/

In fact I've never once heard you guys denounce right wing hate. But I have heard you argue that African Americans deserve their reputation as more violent (hence they deserve hate and fear ). Likewise for Islam. I've heard plenty of arguments in favor of hatred towards Islam.

Now I'm hearing arguments for hating all "leftists" based on the behavior of the most extreme anti right wing people out there.

CBOEtrader says

Yeah, sorry, as long as this is happening noone can pretend the violent leftists are fringe.

Patrick says

It’s time for liberal America to speak out against violence and the rhetoric that incites it.

Look you guys are the ones that have no problem with Trump's deplorable behavior and comments. How often have you denounced his lying, ignorance, violence inciting or low class comments ? YOu're just A-Okay with his deplorable behavior.

So sorry, you don't get to claim that we're giving emotionally challenge idiots on the far left a pass.

That would be like me saying you gave Jared Loughner or Timothy McVeigh a pass, by not denouncing them or the right wing hate that triggered them. Oh wait, I forgot, murder or attempted murder. doesn't count as violence.

It's that spitting and shoving at protests or not allowing Milo to give his talk that really grinds your gears. Not when someone right on this forum tells us how much violence and civil war will ensue if Trump is impeached.

It's quite a contrast to the way 99% of liberals just watched right wingers make a fool of themselves with their pathetic hypocrisy as they impeached Clinton.

marcus says

I didn't hear Patrick or any right wingers on this forum denounce the right wing hate that triggered the Gabby Giffords shooting. Nor did they want to acknowledge that the guy was obviously affected by right wing hate promoted on talk radio.

There was no collective rightwing hate that guy was a whackjob. Just like Dylan Booth.
It's quite different when there's an organized group, and the MSM rallies them on with bullhorns.

Tenpoundbass says

It's quite different when there's an organized group, and the MSM rallies them on with bullhorns.

Is it possible you're referring to ANTIFA ? You think that the typical liberal and or the MSM likes the worst behavior of ANTIFA or encourages it ?

IT's funny how if there was bad behavior from right wingers, you're going to say they were planted by Soros. But if there's any scuffles caused by a group ostensibly protesting fascism or potential fascism, you guys immediately want to say the two guys at the protest that were inciting violence represent all people that are opposed to right wing fascism or authoritarianism.

marcus says

I didn't hear Patrick or any right wingers on this forum denounce the right wing hate that triggered the Gabby Giffords shooting. Nor did they want to acknowledge that the guy was obviously affected by right wing hate promoted on talk radio.

Before the Trump era.

Did you forget about this?