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Aphroman saysit doesn’t make any sense to harp on the 2016 Democrats. They lost, get over it
Exactly. So why the whole #Resist movement from the Democrats/left?
It seems like they have yet to agree to the "get over it" part, and have dedicated themselves to making things as difficult for Americans as possible instead of working with the party in power.
It seems like they have yet to agree to the "get over it" part, and have dedicated themselves to making things as difficult for Americans as possible instead of working with the party in power.
even so his wealth is LESS than what it would have been had he simply put his inheritance in an S&P 500 fund, I call that an idiot.
Please post those charts that show a boom. I'm assuming there are multiple ones or else it wouldn't be plural.
Hmm. I'd like to see the analysis you did to come to this conclusion. Can you show ANY data/proof that what you just said was true?
I posted multiple ones the other day. Why are you ignoring them?
Well, when this supposed expert businessman was left hundreds of millions of $$ from Daddy, proceeded to bankrupt multiple companies and would have been personally bankrupt if it wasn't for Daddy, his most successful and rewarding role was a reality TV star, and even so his wealth is LESS than what it would have been had he simply put his inheritance in an S&P 500 fund, I call that an idiot.
and were back to the S&P crap again... what about the jobs he produced for over 22,000 people plus all the support compains that supply his businesses...
MrMagic saysI posted multiple ones the other day. Why are you ignoring them?
No, you didn't. The charts you posted didn't show a boom when Trump was elected at all.
Really??
The whole discussion about comparing Obama to Trump? Short memory or in need of trolling dollars?
Goran_K saysHmm. I'd like to see the analysis you did to come to this conclusion. Can you show ANY data/proof that what you just said was true?
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-probably-better-investing-donald-233020366.html
http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/
LeonDurham saysWell, when this supposed expert businessman was left hundreds of millions of $$ from Daddy, proceeded to bankrupt multiple companies and would have been personally bankrupt if it wasn't for Daddy, his most successful and rewarding role was a reality TV star, and even so his wealth is LESS than what it would have been had he simply put his inheritance in an S&P 500 fund, I call that an idiot.
Oh Joey, you're just trolling again..
He took Millions and turned them into BILLIONS..
He filed bankruptcy on 4 businesses out of over 500 he's involved in.
and were back to the S&P crap again... what about the jobs he produced for over 22,000 people plus all the support companies that supply his businesses...
We know who the idiots are...
Although these characteristics are unbecoming, you can’t seriously expect these to be enough for a conservative to flip? Flip to what?
As long as he’s for lowering taxes, pro 2nd amendment, tough on immigration, against bs socialist policy, then conservatives will support.
Don’t act so surprised folks. It matters little that he’s an asshole, matters little that he’s rude and offensive.
and even so his wealth is LESS than what it would have been had he simply put his inheritance in an S&P 500 fund, I call that an idiot.
I'll put the final nail in that Liberal circle-jerk story that keeps getting recycled...
Now, take that narrative and and factor in all the 401K accounts of the 22,000 employees that Trump has in his organization. What's the total wealth of that combination with the market gains for all those employees in all their 401K, IRA accounts and private investment accounts?
Remember, Rachel Maddow isn't the best source for accurate Trump bashing information.
Oh Joey, you're just trolling again..
He took Millions and turned them into BILLIONS..
He filed bankruptcy on 4 businesses out of over 500 he's involved in.
and were back to the S&P crap again... what about the jobs he produced for over 22,000 people plus all the support companies that supply his businesses...
We know who the idiots are...
When someone buys a business like the Dorado golf course they don't "produce" jobs. The business is up and running already plus all the support companies were already supplying. The Grand Hyatt was the old Commodore Hotel remodeled. The jobs were already there. Etc., Etc., Etc..
No no. You have to reinvest 100% of your after tax dividends and sleep under a park bench. Who cares about driving a Ferrari while fucking Ms. Victoria's secret cover model? That's for people who don't know how to invest properly. You know, dumb ass multi-billionaires.
Please post those charts that show a boom. I'm assuming there are multiple ones or else it wouldn't be plural.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-probably-better-investing-donald-233020366.html
http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/
That is assuming Trump is anywhere near as wealthy as he claims. Fortune, Bloomburg, TIme, and lot's of other very creditable sources seriously doubt it. Most peg Trump at 2.5-3 billion. Which is half of what simply putting his inherited wealth into an index fund would have produced. He would have had 3 billion and had 3 billion to buy ferraris while fucking Ms. Victoria's Secret cover model.
Do you have some inside source of information that you can share that confirms Trump's real wealth is anywhere near what trump claims?
If Trump had documentable access to half of what he claims, banks would have been in line to loan him whatever he needed to right his casinos after they went down - just for his signature.
Jamie Dimon
Except, there were no Index funds back then.
OK--if Trump had invested passively in stocks and earned the same returns as the overall market.
Most peg Trump at 2.5-3 billion. Which is half of what simply putting his inherited wealth into an index fund would have produced.
OK--if Trump had invested passively in stocks and earned the same returns as the overall market.
Now, take that narrative and and factor in all the 401K accounts of the 22,000 employees that Trump has in his organization. What's the total wealth of that combination with the market gains for all those employees in all their 401K, IRA accounts and private investment accounts?
Already been up by myself and other many times.
Stock market near all time highs
Unemployment at lows not seen since 1969 (except once in 2000)
Record unemployment for Minorities
Lowest Youth unemployment in half a century
GDP growth over 4% not coming out of a recession.
Who besides Leon thinks the economy isn't doing well right now?
This is irrelevant to pretty much everything, but please share your numbers.
Hint: you can't. This is #fakenews.
Trump reports 500 LLC's. Since they are private there is no way of knowing how many actually own something, how much ownership there is, how much equity there is, how many are just licensing deals. or how many actually employ people.
although jobs created and real wages have gotten worse.
What if all his employees did that?
Do you think posting the same lie, day after day, will finally make it true?
This lie of yours has been proven to be fake numerous times by multiple people..
Just stop the trolling with the lies.
CBOEtrader saysThis is irrelevant to pretty much everything, but please share your numbers.
Hint: you can't. This is #fakenews.
Amazing because I already did twice on this very thread.
Obama's consecutive quarters of GDP averaging 5% were 3 years after the recession.
Well, when this supposed expert businessman was left hundreds of millions of $$ from Daddy
How can anyone call a multi-billionaire a dead beat who is bad for business?
What will it finally take to turn Trump supporters against him?
It's a shame that have to resort to mischaracterizing me in order to make any semblance of a point. Very dishonest of you.
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Although these characteristics are unbecoming, you can’t seriously expect these to be enough for a conservative to flip? Flip to what?
As long as he’s for lowering taxes, pro 2nd amendment, tough on immigration, against bs socialist policy, then conservatives will support.
Don’t act so surprised folks. It matters little that he’s an asshole, matters little that he’s rude and offensive.
As long as he fights for conservative policy and continues to hit liberals on the chin like no president ever has, he will not lose support.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/08/18/what-will-finally-turn-trumps-supporters-against-him/