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Karloff says

AS if you morons were even capable of considering the facts.

marcus says

Isn’t that the Democrat party line right now? We can’t investigate the Bidens’ corruption until we prosecute Trump for investigating them! And anyway Biden was CLEARED already! (By someone or some entity we don’t know who but it should be FINE!)

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A question I have: Would it be possible for you to change your mind about Trump ?

I believe the answer is no. It wouldn't matter what he did. That realization is disheartening to a degree that's impossible to articulate - and even if you make the reverse claim toward me - if it's true, it's one more indicator that humanity is doomed - incapable of choosing leadership that will act in its best interest. And simply vulnerable to believing the lies that it wants to believe.

marcus says

I believe the answer is no. It wouldn't matter what he did. That realization is disheartening to a degree that's impossible to articulate - and even if you make the reverse claim toward me - if it's true, it's one more indicator that humanity is doomed - incapable of choosing leadership that will act in its best interest. And simply vulnerable to believing the lies that it wants to believe.

You first have to prove he did something.

The plurality of unbacked accusations != Proof.

Now, TDS sufferers have been proclaiming the Beginning of the End and the Walls are Closing In since he was elected.

This is yet another one.
www.youtube.com/embed/f1ab6uxg908

A question I have: Would it be possible for you to change your mind about Trump ?

I believe the answer is no. It wouldn't matter what he did.

Sounds like you are admitting to extreme bias.

marcus says

Do you still believe Russia stole the election from Hillary?

marcus says

Would it be possible for you to change your mind about Trump ?

Onvacation says

Do you still believe Russia stole the election from Hillary?

I think the last theory was that Ukraine was interfering in elections - did I miss something in the newest iterations of party line?

marcus says

A question I have: Would it be possible for you to change your mind about Trump ?

Sure, but I pose that question back to you.

marcus says

Would it be possible for you to change your mind about Trump ?

Why does Trump himself matter so much to the left? That's the real question. Would it be possible for anyone on the left to change his mind about Trump?

As for me, I'd happily vote for anyone of any party who would:

* work to make the border secure
* imprison the employers of illegals
* cut off relations with Saudi Arabia
* stop surprise medical billing
* bring back manufacturing from China

Any one of those might be enough to swing my vote. But Democrats are wholly owned by plutocrats, so they can't do any of those things.

Patrick says

But Democrats are wholly owned by plutocrats, so they can't do any of those things.

A lot of them are inhabitants of crazytown, not owned by anyone. AOC is a good example...

marcus says

I believe the answer is no. It wouldn't matter what he did.

Doesn't matter who Republicans nominate, the political Left will lose their shit over anyone that is not woke and in the Liberal cult.

Have you forgotten how ape-shit the Media and Democrats got over that boy scout Mitt Romney? "He put a dog on his car!". "He said he had binders full of women!!". "He worked for Bain Capital and didn't pay taxes!" Remember what the Left and Media did to McCain?

Trump is your punishment for all the past years of Democrats shitting on normal centrist politicians nominated by Republicans.

socal2 says

marcus says

I believe the answer is no. It wouldn't matter what he did.

Doesn't matter who Republicans nominate, the political Left will lose their shit over anyone that is not woke and in the Liberal cult.

Have you forgotten how ape-shit the Media and Democrats got over that boy scout Mitt Romney? "He put a dog on his car!". "He said he had binders full of women!!". "He worked for Bain Capital and didn't pay taxes!" Remember what the Left and Media did to McCain?

Trump is your punishment for all the past years of Democrats shitting on normal centrist politicians nominated by Republicans.

A corollary to this is that the media and Democrats will just move on to the next next next fake "offense" as soon as the current one has lost steam. Not even 4 months after the Weissman report largely found nothing and we're now onto impeachment over a phone call where Trump politely asked for investigation into corruption in Ukraine. After this, we'll move on to impeachment over a "threatening" tweet; yes, a tweet!

Patrick says

Why does Trump himself matter so much to the left? That's the real question. Would it be possible for anyone on the left to change his mind about Trump?

The Oikophobia theory explains it.

The goal is to fundamentally transform what America is, not to fix it. See the 1619 Project: To recenter all US History education to revolve around slavery, rather than personal freedom flourishing and, over time, encompassing every individual with liberty and justice for all.

At best, Trump is a delay and distraction.
At worst, Trump might succeed and knock Democratic Socialism back down for a generation or two with his reforms and civic nationalism.

He must be stopped, because America is exceptional - exceptionally evil.

NoCoupForYou says

Patrick says

Why does Trump himself matter so much to the left? That's the real question. Would it be possible for anyone on the left to change his mind about Trump?

The Oikophobia theory explains it.

The goal is to fundamentally transform what America is, not to fix it. See the 1619 Project: To recenter all US History education to revolve around slavery, rather than personal freedom flourishing and, over time, encompassing every individual with liberty and justice for all.

At best, Trump is a delay and distraction.
At worst, Trump might succeed and knock Democratic Socialism back down for a generation or two with his reforms and civic nationalism.

He must be stopped, because America is exceptional - exceptionally evil.

The Left and Right are scared but its harder for the right to go against him. He is exposing corruption on multiple levels simply because he doesn’t know how to play the game and is use to doing things his way. The two parties are afraid of being exposed by his actions intended or not. If we the people even started looking at the rest of our politicians at even 1/10th the level they are looking at Trump they would all be hanging maybe even a revolution. So much wealth and power is being drained away by all of the political leaches selling the rest of us down the river while they set up there families dynasties for generations to come. A big part of how you can tell Trump isn’t playing by the playbook is his trying to stop the bullshit trade screwing us over for decades that has been concentrating wealth and power.

He is exposing corruption on multiple levels simply because he doesn’t know how to play the game

Not sure about not knowing how, he is well aware from his business life how politicians kept hitting him up for contributions. I think Trump wants to end that nonsense, since he ran for office to get what he wanted done rather that just access politicians using his wealth.

HeadSet says

He is exposing corruption on multiple levels simply because he doesn’t know how to play the game

Not sure about not knowing how, he is well aware from his business life how politicians kept hitting him up for contributions. I think Trump wants to end that nonsense, since he ran for office to get what he wanted done rather that just access politicians using his wealth.

True but the end I hope the outcome is the same.

This is getting silly now.

The only thing sillier was Schiff warning Vindman not to say the Whistleblowers name when asked if he told anybody else.

Which proved Vindman and the Leakerblower talked to each other alot.

Eric Ciaramella, most likely.

Also, "It's Lieutenant Colonel Doughy Face! Good day to you, sir.

marcus says

Karloff says

AS if you morons were even capable of considering the facts.

This is rich coming from a guy who doesn’t understand US law and furthermore, remains willfully ignorant.

Tried to show my S.O. this video in the morning but it had been "disappeared" by the YouTube. Looks like it is back.
www.youtube.com/embed/HsE3JMdxijg

RC2006 says

The Left and Right are scared but its harder for the right to go against him. He is exposing corruption on multiple levels simply because he doesn’t know how to play the game and is use to doing things his way. The two parties are afraid of being exposed by his actions intended or not. If we the people even started looking at the rest of our politicians at even 1/10th the level they are looking at Trump they would all be hanging maybe even a revolution. So much wealth and power is being drained away by all of the political leaches selling the rest of us down the river while they set up there families dynasties for generations to come. A big part of how you can tell Trump isn’t playing by the playbook is his trying to stop the bullshit trade screwing us over for decades that has been concentrating wealth and power.

I agree completely. Love that description.

Trump is the best thing that has happened to America in decades.

Shaman says

This cartoon is the best summary of that whole affair.