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Impeached Donald Trump and impeached Rod Blagojevich are corrupt kindred spirits
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2020 Feb 19, 9:16am 2,055 views 26 comments
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socal2
2020 Feb 19, 9:20am
Trump has alot of work to do to catch up with Obama.
Don't recall the Democrats and the Media complaining that Obama pardoned and commuted more people than virtually all of his predecessors combined.
Don't recall the Democrats and the Media complaining that Obama pardoned and commuted more people than virtually all of his predecessors combined.
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Bd6r
2020 Feb 19, 9:24am
Bd6r
2020 Feb 19, 9:24am
socal2 says
You are trying to use logic here, will not fly with partisan individuals who think that ORANGEMANBAD 100% always
Having said that, pardon of Blagojevic is very, very wrong.
Trump has alot of work to do to catch up with Obama.
Don't recall the Democrats and the Media complaining that Obama pardoned and commuted more people than virtually all of his predecessors combined.
You are trying to use logic here, will not fly with partisan individuals who think that ORANGEMANBAD 100% always
Having said that, pardon of Blagojevic is very, very wrong.
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rdm
2020 Feb 19, 9:32am
socal2 says
In some ways It would be good if he did, Obama's commutations were mostly for low level non violent drug offences, Its not the number but the quality of Trump's that is at issue. Trump pardons his kindred spirits, rich white collar criminal assholes.
Trump has alot of work to do to catch up with Obama.
In some ways It would be good if he did, Obama's commutations were mostly for low level non violent drug offences, Its not the number but the quality of Trump's that is at issue. Trump pardons his kindred spirits, rich white collar criminal assholes.
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socal2
2020 Feb 19, 9:37am
rdm says
Like this woman?
www.youtube.com/embed/vP0pOeERO_Y
Trump pardons his kindred spirits, rich white collar criminal assholes.
Like this woman?
www.youtube.com/embed/vP0pOeERO_Y
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WookieMan
2020 Feb 19, 10:04am
WookieMan
2020 Feb 19, 10:04am
Didn't like Blago at all being an IL resident. Still don't. That said, the guy spent 10 years behind bars for talking about selling a government position that he was able to fill. It's shitty and was criminal. Punishment was deserved, but it was pretty extreme in my opinion.
I actually wouldn't have had a problem with Obama pardoning him, but the optics of that would have been awful for him to do the same. No point in paying 10's of thousands a year to keep him locked up for a crime he'll never be able to replicate. I also think there are current politicians that are doing or have done much worse and fly under the radar. A decade is enough.
I actually wouldn't have had a problem with Obama pardoning him, but the optics of that would have been awful for him to do the same. No point in paying 10's of thousands a year to keep him locked up for a crime he'll never be able to replicate. I also think there are current politicians that are doing or have done much worse and fly under the radar. A decade is enough.
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Shaman
2020 Feb 19, 10:22am
Shaman
2020 Feb 19, 10:22am
rdm says
So when Obama pardoned 15,000 drug dealers, it was because he identified with them?
Interesting theory!
Corrupt politicians do favors for other corrupt politicians all the time.
Trump and Blagojevich are kindred spirits.
So when Obama pardoned 15,000 drug dealers, it was because he identified with them?
Interesting theory!
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rdm
2020 Feb 19, 11:03am
Shaman says
15000, that seems a gross exaggeration, no? But in a sense the answer is yes. Being black and seeing the prisons crammed full of black men imprisoned on non violent drug offences he surely identified with them more than the white collar criminal creeps Trump pardoned/commuted. There is no real objectivity here.
So when Obama pardoned 15,000 drug dealers
15000, that seems a gross exaggeration, no? But in a sense the answer is yes. Being black and seeing the prisons crammed full of black men imprisoned on non violent drug offences he surely identified with them more than the white collar criminal creeps Trump pardoned/commuted. There is no real objectivity here.
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rdm
2020 Feb 19, 11:06am
socal2 says
OK that's 1. That however, doesn't represent a large % of what Trump has pardoned/commuted thus far. It does represent a large % of what Obama did.
Like this woman?
OK that's 1. That however, doesn't represent a large % of what Trump has pardoned/commuted thus far. It does represent a large % of what Obama did.
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socal2
2020 Feb 19, 11:33am
rdm says
It's more than one.
At least Trump is not commuting the sentences of Iranian terrorists like Obama did to bribe the Mullahs along with billions of cash.
OK that's 1.
It's more than one.
At least Trump is not commuting the sentences of Iranian terrorists like Obama did to bribe the Mullahs along with billions of cash.
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rdm
2020 Feb 19, 12:13pm
Well Blago certainly shows remorse...Trumpian remorse “I’m returning home today from a long exile, a freed political prisoner.”
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Feb 19, 9:00pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Feb 19, 9:00pm
Blagojevich knows where a lot of Democratic Illinois Infighting bodies are buried.
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Ceffer
2020 Feb 19, 11:04pm
Ceffer
2020 Feb 19, 11:04pm
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
AND protecting his supply.
So when Obama pardoned 15,000 drug dealers, it was because he identified with them?
Interesting theory
He owed them money.
AND protecting his supply.
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komputodo
2020 Feb 20, 5:50am
komputodo
2020 Feb 20, 5:50am
rdm says
Is he Black? He seemed like a wuss. Do the blacks claim him?
Being black and seeing the prisons crammed full of black men imprisoned on non violent drug offences he surely identified with them
Is he Black? He seemed like a wuss. Do the blacks claim him?
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marcus
2020 Feb 20, 6:11am
marcus
2020 Feb 20, 6:11am
socal2 says
Irrelevant. They weren't corrupt politicians. They were low level non violent drug offenses for the most part.
commuted more people than virtually all of his predecessors combined
Irrelevant. They weren't corrupt politicians. They were low level non violent drug offenses for the most part.
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Shaman
2020 Feb 20, 7:57am
Shaman
2020 Feb 20, 7:57am
rdm says
Thanks for being honest. I do think Trump identifies with Blago somehow. He shows a lot of loyalty to people he considers to be friends even when they are total slime. I’m not sure if that is a good or a bad thing. I think Trump is just a terrible judge of character. He’s so outgoing and personable, so readily identifying with other people... well it makes him a great leader and President, but gives him a YUUUUUGE blind spot when it comes to befriending assholes.
Shaman saysSo when Obama pardoned 15,000 drug dealers
15000, that seems a gross exaggeration, no? But in a sense the answer is yes. Being black and seeing the prisons crammed full of black men imprisoned on non violent drug offences he surely identified with them more than the white collar criminal creeps Trump pardoned/commuted. There is no real objectivity here.
Thanks for being honest. I do think Trump identifies with Blago somehow. He shows a lot of loyalty to people he considers to be friends even when they are total slime. I’m not sure if that is a good or a bad thing. I think Trump is just a terrible judge of character. He’s so outgoing and personable, so readily identifying with other people... well it makes him a great leader and President, but gives him a YUUUUUGE blind spot when it comes to befriending assholes.
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WookieMan
2020 Feb 20, 9:26am
WookieMan
2020 Feb 20, 9:26am
marcus says
Obama pardoning low level drug offenders was fine in my book. I despise Blago, but his sentence was extreme and that's pretty much indisputable. Again, I can't stand the guy. But just being convicted means he can't be a public official in most places. He'll get work and likely to better than most moving forward, but it's an absolute waste of taxpayer dollars to keep the guy locked up for 14 years based on phone calls and no money transfer happening. He legally could have taken the senate seat himself if I recall correctly (should have just done that). It should have been 2-4 years max.
The other part of all this is thinking that there's an honest and uncorrupt politician at the higher levels. Every single one is bending or breaking rules/laws. When a corrupt Blago goes to to federal prison, another corrupt piece of shit fills the void.
socal2 sayscommuted more people than virtually all of his predecessors combined
Irrelevant. They weren't corrupt politicians. They were low level non violent drug offenses for the most part.
Obama pardoning low level drug offenders was fine in my book. I despise Blago, but his sentence was extreme and that's pretty much indisputable. Again, I can't stand the guy. But just being convicted means he can't be a public official in most places. He'll get work and likely to better than most moving forward, but it's an absolute waste of taxpayer dollars to keep the guy locked up for 14 years based on phone calls and no money transfer happening. He legally could have taken the senate seat himself if I recall correctly (should have just done that). It should have been 2-4 years max.
The other part of all this is thinking that there's an honest and uncorrupt politician at the higher levels. Every single one is bending or breaking rules/laws. When a corrupt Blago goes to to federal prison, another corrupt piece of shit fills the void.
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socal2
2020 Feb 20, 9:31am
marcus says
How about all of the terrorists and traitors that Obama pardoned?
Here are a few.
- Taliban loving Bergdahl traitor
- 7 Iranians as part of the Iran Deal
- López Rivera (unrepentant Puerto Rican terrorist that killed several through 100's of bombings)
- Bradley Manning
Irrelevant. They weren't corrupt politicians. They were low level non violent drug offenses for the most part.
How about all of the terrorists and traitors that Obama pardoned?
Here are a few.
- Taliban loving Bergdahl traitor
- 7 Iranians as part of the Iran Deal
- López Rivera (unrepentant Puerto Rican terrorist that killed several through 100's of bombings)
- Bradley Manning
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Ceffer
2020 Feb 20, 9:46am
Ceffer
2020 Feb 20, 9:46am
Didn't Obama pardon Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy posthumously to show he wasn't racist?
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rdm
2020 Feb 20, 9:59am
Can you say swamp?
“All 11 recipients had an inside connection or were promoted on Fox News. Some were vocal supporters of Mr. Trump, donated to his campaign or in one case had a son who weekended in the Hamptons with the president’s eldest son. Even three obscure women serving time on drug or fraud charges got on Mr. Trump’s radar screen through a personal connection.”
“While 14,000 clemency petitions sit unaddressed at the Justice Department’s Office of the Pardon Attorney, Mr. Trump eagerly granted relief to a former football team owner who hosted a pre-inauguration party, a onetime contestant on “Celebrity Apprentice” and an infamous investor championed both by Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, and by the billionaire who hosted a $10 million fund-raiser for Mr. Trump just last weekend.”
“All 11 recipients had an inside connection or were promoted on Fox News. Some were vocal supporters of Mr. Trump, donated to his campaign or in one case had a son who weekended in the Hamptons with the president’s eldest son. Even three obscure women serving time on drug or fraud charges got on Mr. Trump’s radar screen through a personal connection.”
“While 14,000 clemency petitions sit unaddressed at the Justice Department’s Office of the Pardon Attorney, Mr. Trump eagerly granted relief to a former football team owner who hosted a pre-inauguration party, a onetime contestant on “Celebrity Apprentice” and an infamous investor championed both by Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, and by the billionaire who hosted a $10 million fund-raiser for Mr. Trump just last weekend.”
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Bd6r
2020 Feb 20, 3:01pm
Bd6r
2020 Feb 20, 3:01pm
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
I think AF is onto something here
SUCK THE RIGHT DICK AND YOU ARE FREE!
I think AF is onto something here
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mell
2020 Feb 20, 5:59pm
WookieMan says
Agreed. Trump did the right thing - again. Blago is a sleazeball but sitting 10 years in prison away from your family for a non violent crime while in leftoid CA illegal assholes can shoot a beautiful girl and get no (prison) sentence at all. So yeah by all means of relativity Blago should be pardoned. Wake me up when we put violent offenders 10+ years into prison and deport illegal asses. Then you can talk about Blago, not a second before.
Didn't like Blago at all being an IL resident. Still don't. That said, the guy spent 10 years behind bars for talking about selling a government position that he was able to fill. It's shitty and was criminal. Punishment was deserved, but it was pretty extreme in my opinion.
I actually wouldn't have had a problem with Obama pardoning him, but the optics of that would have been awful for him to do the same. No point in paying 10's of thousands a year to keep him locked up for a crime he'll never be able to replicate. I also think there are current politicians that are doing or have done much worse and fly under the radar. A decade is enough.
Agreed. Trump did the right thing - again. Blago is a sleazeball but sitting 10 years in prison away from your family for a non violent crime while in leftoid CA illegal assholes can shoot a beautiful girl and get no (prison) sentence at all. So yeah by all means of relativity Blago should be pardoned. Wake me up when we put violent offenders 10+ years into prison and deport illegal asses. Then you can talk about Blago, not a second before.
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rdm
2020 Feb 20, 9:22pm
mell says
Well it was 8 years but who's counting? The reason you put Governors, like Blago away for long periods of time when they act out their corrupt nature is as warning, a deterinece to others. These people have been given, by the voters, literally the power of life and death, along with the ability, if they so choose to do corrupt things that affect not just one victim but millions by their actions, such as selling a senate seat to the highest bidder. Trump did exactly what one would expect him to do, whether it was right or wrong I don't know but likely wrong. One might expect a bit of remorse, humility for a commutation and Blago has showed none.
Trump did the right thing - again. Blago is a sleazeball but sitting 10 years in prison away from your family for a non violent crime
Well it was 8 years but who's counting? The reason you put Governors, like Blago away for long periods of time when they act out their corrupt nature is as warning, a deterinece to others. These people have been given, by the voters, literally the power of life and death, along with the ability, if they so choose to do corrupt things that affect not just one victim but millions by their actions, such as selling a senate seat to the highest bidder. Trump did exactly what one would expect him to do, whether it was right or wrong I don't know but likely wrong. One might expect a bit of remorse, humility for a commutation and Blago has showed none.
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mell
2020 Feb 21, 11:13am
rdm says
I'm no fan of Blago, but scamming/frauding is something you can and most likely will recover from, and in his case I'm not sure there weren't any immediate victims. If you kill somebody, that's forever. Justice makes no sense if somebody like Madoff gets like life-long while a killer escapes sentencing (on CA that's the norm) or gets out after 15 years.
mell saysTrump did the right thing - again. Blago is a sleazeball but sitting 10 years in prison away from your family for a non violent crime
Well it was 8 years but who's counting? The reason you put Governors, like Blago away for long periods of time when they act out their corrupt nature is as warning, a deterinece to others. These people have been given, by the voters, literally the power of life and death, along with the ability, if they so choose to do corrupt things that affect not just one victim but millions by their actions, such as selling a senate seat to the highest bidder. Trump did exactly what one would expect him to do, whether it was right or wrong I don't know but likely wrong. One might expect a bit of remorse, humility for a commutation and Blago has showed none.
I'm no fan of Blago, but scamming/frauding is something you can and most likely will recover from, and in his case I'm not sure there weren't any immediate victims. If you kill somebody, that's forever. Justice makes no sense if somebody like Madoff gets like life-long while a killer escapes sentencing (on CA that's the norm) or gets out after 15 years.
Trump and Blagojevich are kindred spirits. The only difference is that Trump has gotten away with his corruption so far and Blagojevich didn’t.
Recently coming off his own impeachment trial, Trump likely was feeling more generous with his commutation powers this time around, compared with the past when he dangled a “get out of jail free” card over Blagojevich’s head and snatched it back.
Trump finally realized that the disgraced governor whom he once fired on his reality television show “Celebrity Apprentice” was more like him than he knew. Both had a penchant for suckering enough people to vote them into office and then selfishly using their position to promote their personal agenda."
I figure the real reason for these pardons and commutations is that Trump needs loyal people to fill all the vacancies in his administration, welcome aboard ambasador Blago.