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NoCoupForYou says

One great example is that a plurality of Dems and Reps agreed in the 1990s that we had too much immigration. Today only a tiny sliver of Dems agree.

Yep. Remember when Clinton and most Democrats said abortion should be safe, legal and rare? Now abortion is a ghoulish sacrament to them all the way up to crowning - and they are proud of it!

I wonder if Marcus can find a single example of a prominent Republican changing views as strongly as Democrats have changed on immigration, abortion, gays/trannies, founding fathers.


www.youtube.com/embed/l35OCOQ5yQ4

Dude, most of the country wants to be in the center. But the moment you don't fucking kneel in obedience to the left or don't denounce America, they label you a "right winger". I mean FUCKING ASSHOLES or what? They even called Lincoln racist.

I'm sorry Marcus, there is plenty of center. There is absolutely no right. There is only far left, and center. And far left is trying to destroy the center now. Because fucking assholes.

socal2 says

Now abortion is a ghoulish sacrament to them all the way up to crowning - and they are proud of it!

I call bullshit on this entirely. I've never heard a pro choice person that was even remotely pro abortion.

socal2 says

single example of a prominent Republican changing views as strongly as Democrats

Easy. Take a look at conservative republican views on taxes and budget deficits in the 60s.

I don't actually think democrats have changed that much at all on immigration. I've probably posted stats on increased money spent on southern border security in the Obama era, about 20 times by now.

Genius though I will admit that arguing in favor of wasteful spending billions a "wall" the right manged to make it seem like their issue.

BS lying about the other side is just part of how broken it all is, and how everything is lowered to what Weinstein accurately calls a low resolution moronic level.

marcus says

socal2 says

single example of a prominent Republican changing views as strongly as Democrats

Easy. Take a look at conservative republican views on taxes and budget deficits in the 60s.

That's money. I don't think you get most people's problem with the left as shown with this comment.

I get that autoritarians tend to see things as binary, black and white.

I tend to agree with Weinstein that nuance is a thing, as is compromise.

Not only that, the "my team against yours, my team is good your team is evil," is actually a symptom of how ridiculously broken our system is, and our inability to deal with or solve problems.

I have to assume you understand this, and must think that a right wing dictatorship is the only answer. That is if I take the "my way or the highway" mentality to where it logically leads. But for now, at least you have the left making fools of themselves.

The internet and subsequent rise of virtue signaling and doxxing didn't help. Those that are in the center are silenced by both extremes.

I’ve seen plenty of center left people pushed to the right and some even to the far right these past few years. I talked to one guy this morning and he’s gone from being leans left mostly non political to hard right!
And I know what you’ll say: white supremacy is surging in America.
The thing is: NONE of these people are white!
They are just tired of the insanity and the “new normal” and infringement of liberty and our rights and kids not being in school and riots excused and allowed by our Dear Leaders! They can’t stand the naked hypocrisy of the Left anymore and are jumping feet first into the arms of the right.

marcus says

I call bullshit on this entirely. I've never heard a pro choice person that was even remotely pro abortion.

Uh-huh.

www.youtube.com/embed/KwjJb4bBK00

marcus says

I don't actually think democrats have changed that much at all on immigration.

Uh-huh....




https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/694804917/democrats-used-to-talk-about-criminal-immigrants-so-what-changed-the-party

marcus says

I don't actually think democrats have changed that much at all on immigration.

Rrrrrrrrriiiiiiight.

www.youtube.com/embed/ryeYcHvHLUc

I thought we were talking about illegal immigrants and border security.

marcus says

I thought we were talking about illegal immigrants and border security.

Yep. We and Dianne. Barbara was there too. The whole video is available @C-SPAN website. Look it up.

UPD: Here you go: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4744467/user-clip-senator-boxer-senator-feinstein-attorney-general-reno

A lot of democrats have been voting for border security measures all through the Obama era.

marcus says

A lot of democrats have been voting for border security measures all through the Obama era.

And then what happened? Replace Barbara and Dianne faces and voices with Trump's on that video and nobody would suspect any trickery. Trump is basically a Democrat from early 90s. California Democrat.

Eric Holder says

marcus says

I thought we were talking about illegal immigrants and border security.

Yep. We and Dianne. Barbara was there too. The whole video is available @C-SPAN website. Look it up.

UPD: Here you go: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4744467/user-clip-senator-boxer-senator-feinstein-attorney-general-reno

Sen. Boxer: "My proposals have been very simple. (They've been) enforce our border, (...) speed up the asylum process, (...) crack down on illegal smuggling, (...) remove the option that is given to... an illegal alien convicted of a felony has an option of serving time in this country or in their own country, I say return them to their country wherever that country may be to serve the time. So my proposals have been all along these lines and I think most people have regarded them as moderate."

LITERALLY HITLER by today's donkey standards.

Eric Holder says

marcus says

A lot of democrats have been voting for border security measures all through the Obama era.

And then what happened? Replace Barbara and Dianne faces and voices with Trump's on that video and nobody would suspect any trickery. Trump is basically a Democrat from early 90s. California Democrat.

This is pretty undeniable. Which most people are fine with yet we're worried about little girls with zero critical thinking skills wanting a penis or not. That's 2020.

marcus says

socal2 says

Now abortion is a ghoulish sacrament to them all the way up to crowning - and they are proud of it!

I call bullshit on this entirely. I've never heard a pro choice person that was even remotely pro abortion.

Speaking of "bullshit," what is this in the 3rd panel about "affordable contraception?" The "pill" and condoms are already very affordable. And how does "easy access to health care" prevent pregnancy? IUD? Even those are inexpensive. None of that meme makes any sense. Just as bad as saying anyone who is against late term abortion is just someone trying to control women.

Trump is basically a Democrat from early 90s.

Now watch the Dems say Trump is "behind the times." Unlike Biden, of course.

HeadSet says

Speaking of "bullshit," what is this in the 3rd panel about "affordable contraception?" The "pill" and condoms are already very affordable. And how does "easy access to health care" prevent pregnancy? IUD? Even those are inexpensive. None of that meme makes any sense. Just as bad as saying anyone who is against late term abortion is just someone trying to control women.

MEDICAID COVERS BIRTH CONTROL.

And the excuse is still "Poor people can't afford birth control"

At this point the left isn’t really arguing for free or cheap birth control because it already is. They are asking to make it available to children so they can drive a wedge between parents and children to better indoctrinate them.

Eric Holder says

Trump is basically a Democrat from early 90s.

Exactly!

That's the hilarious irony of the whole circus.

What a load of BS lol

Fake news

jazz_music says

Trump is the worst criminal in human history and is using the presidency to gain wealth and avoid prison.

Explain? This is one of most ludicrous statements I may have seen on Patnet in my history here, unless you can explain. Hitler comes to mind, but maybe you've got a case against Trump that I don't know about. Let's just start with Hitler I guess and explain how Trump is worse than Hitler.

jazz_music says

Eric Holder says

Trump is basically a Democrat from early 90s.

Trump is the worst criminal in human history and is using the presidency to gain wealth and avoid prison.

That is a pants on fire lie.
A matched pair of them!
Advanced TDS on display.
Sad!

WookieMan says

jazz_music says

Trump is the worst criminal in human history and is using the presidency to gain wealth and avoid prison.

Explain? This is one of most ludicrous statements I may have seen on Patnet in my history here, unless you can explain. Hitler comes to mind, but maybe you've got a case against Trump that I don't know about. Let's just start with Hitler I guess and explain how Trump is worse than Hitler.

Expect to be bombarded with a slew of opinion articles from left wing propaganda news agencies.

> What Happened to the Political Center?

One of them was elected the President of the United States. Most of the rest are disgusted by the nearly four years of daily lies, fabrications, incompetent and murderous policies of the loser leftist radicals that have been unable to accept this simple fact. Just look at this website and this thread, it's as if someone out there were paying the same few people to regurgitate the ridiculous lies every day to prove how imbecilic the "left" are nowadays. People usually don't want to be seen as members of the moronic class.

The "Left" vs. "Right" paradigm in the US used to be about ripping off the tax-farm-animals to pay welfare bureaucrats vs. ripping off the tax-farm-animals to pay war-merchants. The political Center finally had enough, and decided to walk off the plantation in 2016 and elected one of their own as POTUS; now even some of the historically most reliable captive votes are starting to walk off the plantation. Democrats' murder of blacks and hispanics through mass intubation and removal of policing in minority-heavy cities resulting in mushrooming murder and crime rates in the minority neighborhoods is now showing the original color of Progressivism == Racism, as the most well known Democratic Progressive Woodrow Wilson was the one who segregated the federal employees (federal employees had been integrated half a century earlier by Republicans after the Civil War).

#Unity2020

jazz_music says

Sad cult man. The end is near. You cultists are finished and dead and soon comes the denials and the name changes LOL

What are you even talking about? You sound lost. You've seemingly become unhinged at this point. There's not even a point or argument anymore. Covid and BLM didn't stick. I'm sure we'll get some conflict with N Korea or Iran next....

I can't stand the people that want to see the failure of the US. Trump isn't the best. Not a user here would say that. We are dealing with the hand we were dealt. Instead of pissing our pants about it, we focus on the positives. The retardation is getting mind boggling at this point.

I wish a reporter would ask Biden if he intends to take down statues of all Slaveholders from Washington, DC when he gets elected.

Right now it is so fucking obvious to see Trump’s ineptitude as an executive and EXACTLY WHY all his businesses ended in bankruptcy and abject failures.

So how many businesses have you started in your life? Every single businesses eventually dies, just like every government eventually dies, and every human being eventually dies. It is the process and during the life of a business, a government and a natural human being that accomplishments are made. By that yard-stick, Trump's career as a businessman in several different fields was remarkably successful. Sure, his timing in some businesses could have been better, and I was timing better on a smaller scale in than he was on a large scale, but there was no saying I would be able to convince bankers to time my way instead of the mainstream way even if I had a bigger ship to run.

The search for perfection is often the most mortal enemy of what is good enough (or the best option there is realistically). That is why every single leftist revolution quickly turn into self-destruction: nothing and nobody is good enough for the mob of coddled perfectionist hypocrits who have no first-hand experience at building anything.

L@@k see him showering bailouts, deregulating FUCKING EVERYTHING by executive order because his pathetic failures at responding to pandemic is killing off his own base.

Sure, with what we know now, he should have arrested Fraudci and hanged him from a lamp post, then add mass murderers like Cuomo to the next lamp posts for mass killing ethnic minorities first via intubation in places like Queens and then via crime waves all across Democrat-run big metro cities. Yes, more and more ethnic minorities are becoming new election bases for Trump, thanks to those murderous schemes by Demonrats.

jazz_music says

Reality says

how many businesses have you started in your life?

No, let’s talk about you.

In other words, you never started any businesses, just as I expected.

jazz_music says

jazz_music says

nothing and nobody is good enough for the mob of coddled perfectionist hypocrits who have no first-hand experience at building anything.

What??? There’s no example of that delusion anywhere.

Not a delusion, you are a living example of that. After a few decades of prosperity, a mature society is often over-supplied with coddled idiots with too high expectations and too little skills; that's what "Late Stage Capitalism" is about: foolish young women to be fucked by evil geniuses like Karl Marx, and foolish young men to be fed into the meat grinder called "communist revolution"; haven't you noticed the communist grim reaper flag?

jazz_music says

And where does that leave you with all this Republican propaganda? Lies to seize power and forestall the inevitable crashes that are yet to come. Change your name and disappear? Drinking the fatal kool aid? I’m concerned that the coming fall is going to leave this angry cult with nothing. No money, no great fearless leader, you might join KKK or do something even more drastic.

You seem to have forgotten that the KKK was Democrat . . . just like the federal segregation was also initiated and carried out by the Democrat Progressive Woodrow Wilson. The urban welfare culture started by Democrat LBJ was just another version of Slave Plantation. The Democrat Party is the Slave Plantation Party. Now they are advocating "Reparation" taxing on the offspring of the Union side that fought against slavery (Whites on the Union side far out-numbered Confederate Whites, by 4:1) to compensate the offspring of Slave Owners, which the overwhelming majority of black Americans are also derived from.

Reality says

Not a delusion, you are a living example of that. After a few decades of prosperity, a mature society is often over-supplied with coddled idiots with too high expectations and too little skills; that's what "Late Stage Capitalism" is about: foolish young women to be fucked by evil genius like Karl Marx, and foolish young men to be fed into the meat grinder called "communist revolution"; haven't you noticed their grim reaper flag?

What's your plan or response to the country being divided and torn apart by these subversive forces? Not sure if the end of an empire can be prevented in this case. They did a good job of undermining academia and social media to indoctrinate the youth, gotta give props where props are due.

mell says

What's your plan or response to the country being divided and torn apart by these subversive forces? Not sure if the end of an empire can be prevented in this case. They did a good job of undermining academia and social media to indoctrinate the youth, gotta give props where props are due.

The leftist cults are always mass suicide cults. They always end up one of three ways:

1. Literal mass suicide; e.g. Jim Jones' (James Warren Jones) coolaid killing 918 people.

2. To be put down; e.g. Bavarian Soviet Republic, and Paris Commune.

3. Mutual slaughter if ever allowed to take power for significant length of time; e.g. Soviet union Stalinist purges killing almost all fellow politburo members, and Maoist purges essentially accomplishing the same thing against revolutionary "comrades."

I don't think what's happening in the US is possibility #3. Possibility #2 and #1 result in many dead young men, and many young women to be raped and sexually exploited before being killed (and the same in Possibility#3 as well, only on a grander scale).

For someone like Soros and Gates with tens if not hundreds of billions to invest, Possibility #2 produces investment opportunities in big city real estate, Possibility #3 creates even bigger investment opportunities decades down the road after the revolutionary purges eventually destroy the countries. That's why those managing assets too big to be nimble enough to take advantage of normal business opportunities are obsessed with creating "Reset" events.

jazz_music says

Trump is the worst criminal in human history and is using the presidency to gain wealth and avoid prison.

Worse than Mao? Worse than Stalin? Next you'll say he's literally Hitler.

I forgot, you're ignoring me for pointing out your hypocrisy.

WookieMan says

Explain? This is one of most ludicrous statements I may have seen on Patnet in my history here, unless you can explain. Hitler comes to mind, but maybe you've got a case against Trump that I don't know about. Let's just start with Hitler I guess and explain how Trump is worse than Hitler.

Don't hold your breath.

Don't forget Trump was literally loved by the left just 20 to 40 years ago. Without ever changing his opinions or core MO. Tells you about the mental stability of the leftoids.

What Happened to the Political Center?

I am still here, along with many others.

jazz_music says

Since the southern strategy was perpetrated by Nixon 75 years ago they are Republican.

OK. So what strategy did Nixon perpetrate in 1945?

Can anyone deny that the Democrats were behind slavery, Jim Crow, and the KKK? And that the first Republican president freed the slaves?