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200,000 US Coronavirus Deaths By September 11 and 258,000 Coronavirus Deaths by Election Day


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2020 Aug 2, 3:05am   1,302 views  30 comments

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#trumpismurderWe start the day with 157,905 documented coronavirus deaths in the US.
In these hard times it is vital to get good exercise every day. It is good for your physical health. It is good for your mental health. I have a ritual on the weekends and holidays. I do a 6.5-mile (10.83 km) hike. The best part is when I climb to the top of Mori Point. I sit down on a wood bench. I admire the stunning beauty of the beach below, the golf course, Pacifica, and the beautiful hills all around. It is my moment for meditation and contemplation.
Yesterday I reviewed my projection of +/-200,000 documented deaths from coronavirus by September 11 and +/- 258,000 documented deaths by election day on November 3rd.
I must give special praise to health care providers like Elena, Carla Callao, and Paige Le. Without any medical miracle or vaccine breakthrough, these heroes have used quick thinking, imagination, and initiative to reduce the death rates. Some of the cures they use have an element of humor to them. But they work and leave it at that!
On the negative side you are seeing the number of cases going up almost geometrically in some jurisdictions including California. Part of this problem is people refusing to accept wearing masks, social distancing, and avoiding crowds. Part of it is pathetic poor people forced to live 12 in one house, for example. These same people are forced to go to work in dangerous jobs where they have constant contact with the public.
I'm starting to see a most interesting phenomenon on Facebook. When some unfortunate person dies, their relatives come on Facebook to announce the death of someone close to them and mourn. I'm starting to see the following hashtag:
#trump is murderer.

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1   Booger   2020 Aug 2, 4:49am  

Alleged deaths, since any death by any reason is being reported as Chinese Wuhan Virus.
2   PeopleUnited   2020 Aug 2, 6:26am  

ohomen171 says
trumpismurder

#chinesecommunistpartyismurder

Fixed it for you.
3   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2020 Aug 2, 6:30am  

Wait stick around Jack, you're going to miss the best part.
Typical Liberals believe there will be no repercussions for their actions. They have over played their hand to the point, it's painfully obvious what is going on, even to those that want to believe there's a real pandemic. Tell those Chinks over at the CCP the jig is up and their patsy is going down.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/mortality-reporting-msm-related-coronavirus-overstated-needs-audited-death-rates-going-not/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/larry-c-johnson-someone-lying-covid/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/fauci-exposed-jim-jordans-grilling-proves-political-video/
5   Onvacation   2020 Aug 2, 9:07am  

ohomen171 says
I sit down on a wood bench

Do you sanitize it first?

If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem.
6   Shaman   2020 Aug 2, 9:14am  

personal
7   Shaman   2020 Aug 2, 9:16am  

Every fucking year 2.8 MILLION American people kick off this planet and never return. 200,000 is a rounding error.
Fuck off.
11   Patrick   2020 Aug 2, 12:23pm  

just_adhom_preaching says
Shaman says
you deserve to die


Moderated now.
13   MrEd   2020 Aug 2, 2:12pm  

just accept it.
You live in a country where too many dummies are not wearing masks because they cannot accept they are part of a 100 year pandemic.
Pandemic denial = skeerdycats

ohomen171 says
200,000 US Coronavirus Deaths By September 11 and 258,000 Coronavirus Deaths by Election Day

14   Patrick   2020 Aug 2, 2:49pm  

@MrEd Can you find any scientific evidence that masks help outdoors?
15   mell   2020 Aug 2, 2:53pm  

Patrick says
@MrEd Can you find any scientific evidence that masks help outdoors?


There isn't. In fact outdoor without mask is a million times safer than indoors with. Ventilation (or filtration) is key.
16   Booger   2020 Aug 2, 5:42pm  

Patrick says
@MrEd Can you find any scientific evidence that masks help outdoors?


They keep parts of your face from getting sunburned.
17   MrEd   2020 Aug 2, 5:51pm  

Not certified evidence, but if you've ever been sneezed on outdoors, and felt the snot droplets, one can draw a reasonable conclusion that entry of some of it through mouth/nose is possible.
Patrick says
@MrEd Can you find any scientific evidence that masks help outdoors?
18   MrEd   2020 Aug 2, 5:52pm  

I'm thinking of seated outdoor events where chairs are jammed up against each other to maximize profit.
Risk increases on a windless day where air is stagnant.
MrEd says
Not certified evidence, but if you've ever been sneezed on outdoors, and felt the snot droplets, one can draw a reasonable conclusion that entry of some of it through mouth/nose is possible.
Patrick says
@MrEd Can you find any scientific evidence that masks help outdoors?
19   MrEd   2020 Aug 2, 5:53pm  

I would guess 20x, 50x.
1,000,000 is a little exaggerated.

mell says
There isn't. In fact outdoor without mask is a million times safer than indoors with.
20   MrEd   2020 Aug 2, 5:54pm  

Not sure about this. Some people like to peel sunburnt skin, and thus would consider an outdoor mask a detriment...
Booger says
Patrick says
@MrEd Can you find any scientific evidence that masks help outdoors?


They keep parts of your face from getting sunburned.
21   Onvacation   2020 Aug 2, 5:55pm  

MrEd says
just accept it.
You live in a country where too many dummies are not wearing masks because they cannot accept they are part of a 100 year pandemic.
Pandemic denial = skeerdycats

Yes! Get those rioters protesters off the streets!
22   RWSGFY   2020 Aug 2, 5:57pm  

Onvacation says
MrEd says
just accept it.
You live in a country where too many dummies are not wearing masks because they cannot accept they are part of a 100 year pandemic.
Pandemic denial = skeerdycats

Yes! Get those rioters protesters off the streets!


How dare you!
23   mell   2020 Aug 2, 6:01pm  

MrEd says
Not certified evidence, but if you've ever been sneezed on outdoors, and felt the snot droplets, one can draw a reasonable conclusion that entry of some of it through mouth/nose is possible.
Patrick says
@MrEd Can you find any scientific evidence that masks help outdoors?


Sure that's possible but the amount of times this happens aside from mass riots such as BLM or other mass gatherings of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people is totally insignificant for the total Covid spread. There are also people who fuck each other and give each other Covid just because it's fun to have a romp. Again, not significant and completely immaterial to the pandemic. Sure one can argue that people sitting next to each other too closely may be an issue, but there's no proof that this isn't insignificant either. In SF one hood (Marina) is packed with people at night sitting closely and often without masks as bars and restaurants are buzzing, and the infection rate in that zip code is actually below most others. People who are worried about droplets outdoors can protect themselves by wearing a mask but should not impose this on others. 99% of the already insignificant cases can easily be avoided with proper hygiene and distancing which people actually mostly follow.
24   MrEd   2020 Aug 2, 6:12pm  

Agreed. Whoever is congregating closely and not masked.

Onvacation says
Yes! Get those rioters protesters off the streets!
25   MrEd   2020 Aug 2, 6:14pm  

Which is why I never mentioned "outdoors" in the instigating post.
https://patrick.net/post/1334219/?c=1691946

mell says
Sure that's possible but the amount of times this happens aside from mass riots such as BLM or other mass gatherings of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people is totally insignificant for the total Covid spread.
26   MrEd   2020 Aug 2, 6:16pm  

Look. Trump is now supporting mask wearing!
Please morph along with The One...
Onvacation says
MrEd says
just accept it.
You live in a country where too many dummies are not wearing masks because they cannot accept they are part of a 100 year pandemic.
Pandemic denial = skeerdycats

Yes! Get those rioters protesters off the streets!
27   mell   2020 Aug 2, 6:34pm  

MrEd says
Which is why I never mentioned "outdoors" in the instigating post.
https://patrick.net/post/1334219/?c=1691946

mell says
Sure that's possible but the amount of times this happens aside from mass riots such as BLM or other mass gatherings of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people is totally insignificant for the total Covid spread.


Then we agree. Who isn't wearing masks indoors when asked? AFAIK most if not all businesses, institutions, large indoor spaces kick you out if you're not wearing a mask. So the random encounter map is useless. I actually think that more people are wearing masks than should, mostly outdoors. It's mainly BLM protests and large frat boy/girl house parties and those insane orders by insane idiots like Cuomo of putting infected people into nursing homes that spread it, and those people don't care anyways. I would bet if you take those who deliberately don't care or want to get it out of the equation (or don't have the chance to escape as they're confined such as to a nursing home), then you're looking at an R0 far below 1. Most European countries are much laxer wrt masks or have none (Sweden, Netherlands) and have lesser infections (and/or testing). The real issue is to bring down the death rate as much as possible with HCQ and other cheap and readily available anti-virals for those who need it.
28   Onvacation   2020 Aug 2, 8:08pm  

MrEd says
Look. Trump is now supporting mask wearing!
Please morph along with The One...


Good! Now we don't have to have universal, postage paid, pre-marked balloting!
29   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Aug 2, 8:29pm  

Mask wearing anywhere except long times in enclosed spaces (ie cubicle mazes, tiny bodegas) should be optional.

Those over 65 should be encouraged to stay home.

School opens in September or fire all no-show teachers for violation of contract/job abandonment. Only if they have a doctor's note saying they have respiratory/cardiovascular or related chronic conditions that put them at high risk.
30   WookieMan   2020 Aug 3, 5:02am  

MrEd says

This map is pure shit. Just got back from Utah over a 10 day trip. SLC, Provo, Moab, Bryce Canyon, Springdale and Las Vegas. 4 out 5 people were wearing masks outside while hiking and everyone was generally 6 feet apart except on narrow trails. Inside, 5 out 5 at every gas stop, restaurant, hotel, grocery store, etc. Basically everyone was wearing a mask and non-mask wearing people were only spotted outside.

Basically the Southern section of Utah should easily be in 80% range at minimum from spending 8 days there. Vegas was 100% inside and about 80% outdoors when it was 110 degrees outside. This is why I said in other threads you're getting bad information. Utah is substantially higher than that map depicts.

Also, looked up the map and some of the source data. It was a survey.... One Wisconsin grocery store study, only observed people wearing masks as they exited the store... https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.09.20126946v2.full.pdf

If no one is around, my mask if off before I'm out the door as I don't wear it in muggy/humid IL. I constantly see people pulling them off before they get out. The Wisconsin study could be off by a substantial amount.

Also there are ~3,140 counties in the US. The survey consisted of 250k responses. 79.5 people on average per county. Urban areas probably got more coverage with the survey. I'd bet no more than 10-20 people were surveyed in my county. So yeah, 10-20 people represent an entire county of 105k people. Or 200 people in a county of 1M Cute survey and presentation of crap by the NYT though.

Everyone needs to do better in vetting the sources they rely on. The map is provable shitty in just 10 minutes. All based off my anecdotal evidence from a trip. Stop believing lies. I don't know or understand why the NYT chooses to lie about something, but there's a reason behind every lie. I know some people are hesitant to travel, but get out there and see things for yourself. This fallacy of no one wearing masks is provably false just by going to different areas.

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