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Not just progressives, But everyone does.
Progressives have agenda to hype it, Minorities have a interest to keep majoritarianism under check.

sikhguy says

Minorities have a interest to keep majoritarianism under check.

AKA subvert democracy.

(Whenever I say that, people get upset. Minorities are protected by legal equality under the law. They have NO right to subvert a majority vote, or they're behaving oligarchical)

That's why we have constitution and states with low population still can representation.
Majoritarianism is bullying by majority.
Do you support popular vote for president? Is not having it is also subversion?

sikhguy says

@GlocknLoad
white nationalist use race as weapon and so do leftists.
which side are you on?

I am not on either side and Govt has no business beyond safeguarding the well being of public irrespective of diverse looks.
Govt does need to protect from discrimination but not affirmative action.

My point is, diversity is not a strength. Racism will always be there and is why it is used against the people. You cannot deny the democrats use racism.

As I told Sikh community endured genocide in India and racism/harassment in US after September 11.
Is it too much to ask for safety and protection under law?

I loved the part during Q&A when someone asked Rudy if Biden was part of the conspiracy, or was aware of it.

Rudy said (paraphrasing) “I don’t know what Joe Biden is aware of, at any time.”

He didn’t say directly that Biden had dementia, but it was implied.

sikhguy says

That's why we have constitution and states with low population still can representation.
Majoritarianism is bullying by majority.
Do you support popular vote for president? Is not having it is also subversion?

So trying to answer this in a compromise way. No matter where you go, as a foreigner with foreign looks you will be an outsider to many, but not all. Some may even be intrigued (e.g. womynx). That's innate and normal. Go and live in Japan as a Sikh or a White guy and you will never fit in with the masses, just with a smaller group of select people. I agree that every citizen should be treated the same under law with the same protections, but that does not include special privileges or protections. Also the majority cannot make laws that violate those principles in the constitution, but everything else they can regulate.

mell says

sikhguy says

That's why we have constitution and states with low population still can representation.
Majoritarianism is bullying by majority.
Do you support popular vote for president? Is not having it is also subversion?

So trying to answer this in a compromise way. No matter where you go, as a foreigner with foreign looks you will be an outsider to many, but not all. Some may even be intrigued (e.g. womynx). That's innate and normal
Go and live in Japan as a Sikh or a White guy and you will never fit in with the masses, just with a smaller group of select people. I agree that every citizen should be treated the same under law with the same protections, but that does not include special privileges or protections. Also the majority cannot make laws that violate those principles in the constitution, but everything else they can regulate.

I asked for nothing beyond safety and equality under law.

Giuliani dropped the MI lawsuits when they went into non-certified status. That points to a House vote strategy.

I fucking hate diversity. It's used to divide us, bring in an immigrant block that consistently votes dems and gets conflated with illegal immigration.

Other than that I love my asian, sihk, black, and Indian friends. Oh yeah, and diversity of food is awesome.

https://stream.org/i-know-sidney-powell-she-is-telling-the-truth/

Good article about Sidney's character and integrity.

sikhguy says

But GOP does use dog whistle and if they stop it, All successful people in minorities will rush to them.

Ahh, man, they got you!

There is no such thing as a dog whistle. Or at least the right wing can't hear it and only the left wing can. It's utter BS the left spouts when they run out of arguments. There is no such thing.

Dholliday126 says

I fucking hate diversity. It's used to divide us, bring in an immigrant block that consistently votes dems and gets conflated with illegal immigration.

Other than that I love my asian, sihk, black, and Indian friends. Oh yeah, and diversity of food is awesome.

Melting Pot > Diversity

Melting Pot was slower and allowed immigrants to assimilate while still bringing the best parts of their culture here to make it a cooler place to live. Diversity is just a dog whistle for racism against whites.

See what I did there. ;^)

Dholliday126 says

I fucking hate diversity. It's used to divide us, bring in an immigrant block that consistently votes dems and gets conflated with illegal immigration.

Other than that I love my asian, sihk, black, and Indian friends. Oh yeah, and diversity of food is awesome.

There was no Dem/Rep party before Trump. they were just serving elites by dividing people.
I think trump will fix that. Why do we need a party?.. To force elites will on locals?..
Have you see what Dems are saying about Georgia...
They say bring the people and win.. Total disregard for local needs.

We have national election for president, All congress members should be barred from joining any patry.. We don't need any stinkin party.

just_passing_through says

Dholliday126 says

I fucking hate diversity. It's used to divide us, bring in an immigrant block that consistently votes dems and gets conflated with illegal immigration.

Other than that I love my asian, sihk, black, and Indian friends. Oh yeah, and diversity of food is awesome.

Melting Pot > Diversity

Melting Pot was slower and allowed immigrants to assimilate while still bringing the best parts of their culture here. Diversity is just a dog whistle for racism against whites.

See what I did there. ;^)

Not agree. Diversity exists in nature.
Politicians shouldn't be allowed to exploit it though.
Making everybody same like china is intolerance in society. Americans are better than this shit.

Agreed.

The virtue is in ignoring race, not making it 24/7 non-stop bullshit.

Did anyone but me catch the part where Sidney Powel confirmed that the servers had been seized in Germany but she didn’t know if it was done by good guys or bad?

We are in open insurrection at this point.

Yeah I caught that, and tell me this....

Why isn't talking about a potential Hunter Biden laptop connection? Do a search for Dominion on that laptop and I bet you get some interesting results. Maybe Trump knew that the fix was in and created a cauldron....

sikhguy says

Making everybody same like china is intolerance in society.

That isn't even close to what I said! In fact, it's the opposite. Mixing people too quickly causes problems. Just look at Europe. It takes time for people to assimilate to the existing culture. Generally, new faces makes it better/more interesting.

sikhguy says

Majoritarianism is bullying by majority.

Majoritarianism is Democracy.

If you're opposed to Majoritarianism, you can only be an oligarchist

My own view of diversity:

https://patrick.net/post/1336214/2020-10-31-readme#Diversity

Summary: diversity divides people. The cure for the harm of diversity is to have a single strong national culture.

NoCoupForYou says

sikhguy says

Majoritarianism is bullying by majority.

Majoritarianism is Democracy.

If you're opposed to Majoritarianism, you can only be an oligarchist

There is constitution, press and courts to check mob rule by majority.
Majority can't vote themselves to "better than others" as per constitution.

if minority is "oligarchist" , Then it is oligarchy.
But it almost never happens except may be in colonial past.

Patrick says

My own view of diversity:

https://patrick.net/post/1336214/2020-10-31-readme#Diversity

Summary: diversity divides people. The cure for the harm of diversity is to have a single strong national culture.

single national culture is uniform laws and respect for them.
Beyond that Govt have no business.Forcing people to become similar is what Chinese communists or Indian Hindu Fascists do.
In general every country will develop some common traits naturally.

It's not just laws.

People have to believe they are in this together with their fellow citizens.

It's not about force at all. It's about a feeling.

Why not just feel this about every fellow human.
A person who loves his country can't hate our earth.
I am totally against our tax dollars going outside so that cruel globalists can wage wars are destroy lives of other humans even if we can get some benefits.We would rather live with less honestly earned.

Let the common traits naturally develop while we promote opportunity,equality and justice.

sikhguy says

There is constitution, press and courts to check mob rule by majority.

Yes - individual rights.

But minorities can't veto everything they don't like.

Also, minorities can't claim one rule for them and one for others - if there is a curriculum for schools, it applies to them too (thinking about Muslims in Birmingham)

Then, people have the right to live where they want, own property, etc. freely in a country - without having to get "approval" from local politicians, right?

what do you think about these people?
https://twitter.com/LLinWood
https://twitter.com/SidneyPowell1

and this site:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/

Kind of theories they are bringing out should cause big thud somewhere in democrat world.
I see all quiet.. It is quite mesmerizing spectacle and I can't wait to see end of it.
I am not able to grasp how will this end.

Any guesses?It seem somewhere between big show,no goods to mushroom cloud.

NoCoupForYou says

sikhguy says

There is constitution, press and courts to check mob rule by majority.

Yes - individual rights.

But minorities can't veto everything they don't like.

If the govt decision need to take diversity in account beyond some ceremonial rules, Govt is already too deep in your life.
What have minority vetoed? Give me some examples.

Muslims protested and got withdrawn LGBTQ curriculum in Birmingham schools. They routinely refuse to teach official, mandated curriculum esp. about other religions, freedom and rights, etc. in their neighborhood and esp. religious schools (even when this is mandatory)

Some minority was angry that Indians could live freely, without "local approval" by politicians, in a section of India, just very recently. Jimmu and Kashmir.

This is silly stuff the little people keep fighting about. Any two individuals will have different opinion about things so does two groups.
ANTIFA and Proud guys would want different history to be taught. Liberals and Conservatives would want history to be taught differently.

Do You have more really consequential examples?

sikhguy says

Do You have more really consequential examples?

People in J&K seemed really mad that other Indians could move there without permission, ignoring the fact they could live elsewhere without permission. Some serious rioting and anger! With the Congress cucks encouraging it. Also Ayodhya and other places.

Another one would be the UK allowing Pakis via non-enforcement to have polygamous marriages, but forbidding everybody else, even though both groups have British Citizenship. A British man was sent to prison because he was only separated, not offically divorced, from his wife of like 1 year from a decade ago, but got re-married. He hadn't seen the other woman in 10+ years. Meanwhile British born Pakis go over to Pakistan for a 2nd or 3rd wife, bring them back, sign them up for welfare. Sometimes they don't even go back to Pakistan, but marry another cousin right in the UK as a 2nd wife. The British did (maybe still are), allowing UK hosted and registered companies to "match" for 2nd wives.

"British Pakis are more equal than British Non-Pakis, because minority"

The entire US Education system is nothing but an artful minority sneaking in their bullshit against the majority.

sikhguy says

Why not just feel this about every fellow human.

You should feel this way about every fellow human, but you should also feel a greater responsibility to your own country than to other countries. They are your people.

When countries do not have a strong sense of unity, they are invaded and destroyed.

@sikhguy

Nobody can defeat us militarily.
What can defeat us is when we stop taking care of our fellow countrymen and have developed hatred towards each other.
Also we develop bad habits like drugs,subversive culture etc.

Let me tell you that hatred doesn't come from diversity, But comes from unfairness, Especially when elites want to take all and make serfs fight each other.
ANTIFA and Proud boys both are primarily white and hate each other more than any other race, This kind of division at large scale is dangerous.

I wouldn't want us non-whites to be unfairly blamed when Dems/Repubs primarily white politicians are causing the rift.Race diversity is not problem here.

“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what they are going to have for lunch.”
—Benjamin Franklin

yeah we saw the running hair dye.
know any females?
90% use hair dye.

FarmersWon says

Patrick I appreciate what you said, But there is no denial that there are "white fringe elements" in republican party who are racist.It is common sense to be afraid of this fringe as a minority.

Look, when you piss off whitey you'll know it, because we'll go full Nazi on your ass. We fought 2 of the most brutal wars in all of Earth's history.

Keep on screaming victim when you're not a victim, keep demonizing white people, and eventually since they've been convicted of the crime anyhow, they'll commit the crime. You can't get convicted twice.

Dholliday126 says

Yeah I caught that, and tell me this....

Why isn't talking about a potential Hunter Biden laptop connection? Do a search for Dominion on that laptop and I bet you get some interesting results. Maybe Trump knew that the fix was in and created a cauldron....

@Dholliday126 - I'm just pinging you so you can see a blast from the past.

The laptop images have LONG been out, but fuck all if I'm going to put them on my computer. They finally figured out a way to prevent me from downloading material from our criminal government - just put child pornography on it.