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2020 Nov 19, 9:14am   5,129 views  63 comments

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24   GNL   2020 Nov 19, 1:11pm  

sikhguy says
CA is not red on coastal cities. Deep red inland.
Most of the Sikhs in central valley vote republican as they don't associate with culture promoted by leftists.

But Sikhs are also aware of "racist overtones" in republican party. Let us see How Trump make assure that minorities from fear of white nationalism.

The only racist party is the democrat party. It all they talk about
25   Patrick   2020 Nov 19, 1:16pm  

@sikhguy This is true.

Republicans are especially good at accepting new immigrants who support the Constitution.

Democrats are obsessed with race, and only Democrats are that way.
26   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2020 Nov 19, 1:19pm  

Patrick says
@sikhguy This is true.

Republicans are especially good at accepting new immigrants who support the Constitution.

Democrats are obsessed with race, and only Democrats are that way.


I really don't like this modern fad on the left. Obsession with race/gender, narcissistic gender pronouns, complete abolition of religion and American culture, forcing people to tip toe around fragile feelings of very sheltered kids. It's just nuts.
27   Eric_Holder   2020 Nov 19, 1:32pm  

sikhguy says
there is no denial that there are "white fringe elements" in republican party who are racist


There is no denial there are fringe elements of any skin color in any group of people who a racist, duh.
28   RWSGFY   2020 Nov 19, 1:47pm  

sikhguy says
Eric Holder says
sikhguy says
there is no denial that there are "white fringe elements" in republican party who are racist


There is no denial there are fringe elements of any skin color in any group of people who a racist, duh.


I don't deny it. If the fringe becomes mainstream, First to bear the brunt is Sikhs because of our appearance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Sikh_temple_shooting

You may not feel that way I do.


What any of this has to do with GOP specifically?
29   Onvacation   2020 Nov 19, 1:50pm  

Dholliday126 says
no way CA went deep red...seriously, come on.

That's how my state of birth seems to me as well.
30   RWSGFY   2020 Nov 19, 1:54pm  

sikhguy says
Same way what communism has to do with democrats?


Demonrats openly embrace commie ideas. GOP does not openly endorse racism. Big difference.
31   Onvacation   2020 Nov 19, 1:56pm  

sikhguy says

Patrick I appreciate what you said, But there is no denial that there are "white fringe elements" in republican party who are racist.It is common sense to be afraid of this fringe as a minority.

And Biden, Byrd, and the Clintons are OK?

If it were up to the Democrats dark skinned people would still be working the fields in chains.
32   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2020 Nov 19, 2:25pm  

sikhguy says
there is no denial that there are "white fringe elements" in republican party who are racist.It is common sense to be afraid of this fringe as a minority.


every party has fringe element that flocks to it. However, if parties are reasonable they put fringe stuff on the leash. Republicans do have their extreme fringes on the leash, they aren't burning America screaming crazy things. But Democrats completely are letting the fringe take over their party, it's where all the insanity is from these days. In the past, both parties always controlled the fringe that they could, and things were stable. But at some point left stopped, in fact they started encouraging it, and a lot has gotten really bad.

That's just what I've seen.
33   GlocknLoad   2020 Nov 19, 2:46pm  

sikhguy says
Eric Holder says
sikhguy says
there is no denial that there are "white fringe elements" in republican party who are racist


There is no denial there are fringe elements of any skin color in any group of people who a racist, duh.


I don't deny it. If the fringe becomes mainstream, First to bear the brunt is Sikhs because of our appearance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Sikh_temple_shooting

You may not feel that way I do.

Soooooooo, you like diversity or you do not like diversity? You think this will ever change? C'mon man.
34   Eric_Holder   2020 Nov 19, 2:55pm  

sikhguy says
But GOP does use dog whistle


This need examples of somebody who's somebody in the GOP using clearly-identifiable "dog whistle".
35   socal2   2020 Nov 19, 2:55pm  

sikhguy says
I can agree with that. But GOP does use dog whistle and if they stop it, All successful people in minorities will rush to them.


Can you provide examples of these "dog whistles" by Republicans?

I see dog whistles all the time used by Liberal Progressives claiming people of color are too ignorant and incapable of showing ID to vote, too stupid to get jobs or into schools without affirmative action........and generally incapable of taking care of their lives without massive government assistance.
36   RWSGFY   2020 Nov 19, 3:09pm  

sikhguy says
If you feel GOP is perfect and don't support any racism.


If someone claims something the burden of proof is on them.
37   Onvacation   2020 Nov 19, 3:34pm  

sikhguy says
GOP does use dog whistle

It's kind of funny how the progressives always hear these dog whistles but good old white boys like me don't.
38   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Nov 19, 3:40pm  

sikhguy says
Minorities have a interest to keep majoritarianism under check.


AKA subvert democracy.

(Whenever I say that, people get upset. Minorities are protected by legal equality under the law. They have NO right to subvert a majority vote, or they're behaving oligarchical)
39   GlocknLoad   2020 Nov 19, 3:53pm  

sikhguy says
@GlocknLoad
white nationalist use race as weapon and so do leftists.
which side are you on?

I am not on either side and Govt has no business beyond safeguarding the well being of public irrespective of diverse looks.
Govt does need to protect from discrimination but not affirmative action.

My point is, diversity is not a strength. Racism will always be there and is why it is used against the people. You cannot deny the democrats use racism.
40   clambo   2020 Nov 19, 3:57pm  

I loved the part during Q&A when someone asked Rudy if Biden was part of the conspiracy, or was aware of it.

Rudy said (paraphrasing) “I don’t know what Joe Biden is aware of, at any time.”

He didn’t say directly that Biden had dementia, but it was implied.
41   mell   2020 Nov 19, 4:01pm  

sikhguy says
That's why we have constitution and states with low population still can representation.
Majoritarianism is bullying by majority.
Do you support popular vote for president? Is not having it is also subversion?


So trying to answer this in a compromise way. No matter where you go, as a foreigner with foreign looks you will be an outsider to many, but not all. Some may even be intrigued (e.g. womynx). That's innate and normal. Go and live in Japan as a Sikh or a White guy and you will never fit in with the masses, just with a smaller group of select people. I agree that every citizen should be treated the same under law with the same protections, but that does not include special privileges or protections. Also the majority cannot make laws that violate those principles in the constitution, but everything else they can regulate.
43   Ceffer   2020 Nov 19, 5:33pm  

Giuliani dropped the MI lawsuits when they went into non-certified status. That points to a House vote strategy.
44   Dholliday126   2020 Nov 19, 7:09pm  

I fucking hate diversity. It's used to divide us, bring in an immigrant block that consistently votes dems and gets conflated with illegal immigration.

Other than that I love my asian, sihk, black, and Indian friends. Oh yeah, and diversity of food is awesome.
45   porkchopXpress   2020 Nov 19, 7:10pm  

https://stream.org/i-know-sidney-powell-she-is-telling-the-truth/

Good article about Sidney's character and integrity.
46   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2020 Nov 19, 7:12pm  

sikhguy says
But GOP does use dog whistle and if they stop it, All successful people in minorities will rush to them.


Ahh, man, they got you!

There is no such thing as a dog whistle. Or at least the right wing can't hear it and only the left wing can. It's utter BS the left spouts when they run out of arguments. There is no such thing.
47   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2020 Nov 19, 7:15pm  

Dholliday126 says
I fucking hate diversity. It's used to divide us, bring in an immigrant block that consistently votes dems and gets conflated with illegal immigration.

Other than that I love my asian, sihk, black, and Indian friends. Oh yeah, and diversity of food is awesome.


Melting Pot > Diversity

Melting Pot was slower and allowed immigrants to assimilate while still bringing the best parts of their culture here to make it a cooler place to live. Diversity is just a dog whistle for racism against whites.

See what I did there. ;^)
48   Patrick   2020 Nov 19, 7:18pm  

Agreed.

The virtue is in ignoring race, not making it 24/7 non-stop bullshit.
49   ignoreme   2020 Nov 19, 7:35pm  

Did anyone but me catch the part where Sidney Powel confirmed that the servers had been seized in Germany but she didn’t know if it was done by good guys or bad?

We are in open insurrection at this point.
50   Dholliday126   2020 Nov 19, 7:41pm  

Yeah I caught that, and tell me this....

Why isn't talking about a potential Hunter Biden laptop connection? Do a search for Dominion on that laptop and I bet you get some interesting results. Maybe Trump knew that the fix was in and created a cauldron....
51   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2020 Nov 19, 7:58pm  

sikhguy says
Making everybody same like china is intolerance in society.


That isn't even close to what I said! In fact, it's the opposite. Mixing people too quickly causes problems. Just look at Europe. It takes time for people to assimilate to the existing culture. Generally, new faces makes it better/more interesting.
52   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Nov 19, 8:11pm  

sikhguy says
Majoritarianism is bullying by majority.


Majoritarianism is Democracy.

If you're opposed to Majoritarianism, you can only be an oligarchist
53   Patrick   2020 Nov 19, 8:29pm  

My own view of diversity:

https://patrick.net/post/1336214/2020-10-31-readme#Diversity

Summary: diversity divides people. The cure for the harm of diversity is to have a single strong national culture.
54   Patrick   2020 Nov 19, 8:44pm  

It's not just laws.

People have to believe they are in this together with their fellow citizens.

It's not about force at all. It's about a feeling.
55   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Nov 19, 9:24pm  

sikhguy says
There is constitution, press and courts to check mob rule by majority.


Yes - individual rights.

But minorities can't veto everything they don't like.

Also, minorities can't claim one rule for them and one for others - if there is a curriculum for schools, it applies to them too (thinking about Muslims in Birmingham)

Then, people have the right to live where they want, own property, etc. freely in a country - without having to get "approval" from local politicians, right?
56   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Nov 19, 9:29pm  

Muslims protested and got withdrawn LGBTQ curriculum in Birmingham schools. They routinely refuse to teach official, mandated curriculum esp. about other religions, freedom and rights, etc. in their neighborhood and esp. religious schools (even when this is mandatory)

Some minority was angry that Indians could live freely, without "local approval" by politicians, in a section of India, just very recently. Jimmu and Kashmir.
57   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Nov 19, 10:00pm  

sikhguy says
Do You have more really consequential examples?





People in J&K seemed really mad that other Indians could move there without permission, ignoring the fact they could live elsewhere without permission. Some serious rioting and anger! With the Congress cucks encouraging it. Also Ayodhya and other places.

Another one would be the UK allowing Pakis via non-enforcement to have polygamous marriages, but forbidding everybody else, even though both groups have British Citizenship. A British man was sent to prison because he was only separated, not offically divorced, from his wife of like 1 year from a decade ago, but got re-married. He hadn't seen the other woman in 10+ years. Meanwhile British born Pakis go over to Pakistan for a 2nd or 3rd wife, bring them back, sign them up for welfare. Sometimes they don't even go back to Pakistan, but marry another cousin right in the UK as a 2nd wife. The British did (maybe still are), allowing UK hosted and registered companies to "match" for 2nd wives.

"British Pakis are more equal than British Non-Pakis, because minority"

The entire US Education system is nothing but an artful minority sneaking in their bullshit against the majority.
58   Patrick   2020 Nov 19, 10:41pm  

sikhguy says
Why not just feel this about every fellow human.


You should feel this way about every fellow human, but you should also feel a greater responsibility to your own country than to other countries. They are your people.

When countries do not have a strong sense of unity, they are invaded and destroyed.

@sikhguy
59   EBGuy   2020 Nov 20, 12:38pm  

“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what they are going to have for lunch.”
—Benjamin Franklin
61   clambo   2020 Nov 20, 4:29pm  

yeah we saw the running hair dye.
know any females?
90% use hair dye.
62   richwicks   2023 Mar 29, 11:10pm  

FarmersWon says

Patrick I appreciate what you said, But there is no denial that there are "white fringe elements" in republican party who are racist.It is common sense to be afraid of this fringe as a minority.


Look, when you piss off whitey you'll know it, because we'll go full Nazi on your ass. We fought 2 of the most brutal wars in all of Earth's history.

Keep on screaming victim when you're not a victim, keep demonizing white people, and eventually since they've been convicted of the crime anyhow, they'll commit the crime. You can't get convicted twice.
63   richwicks   2023 Mar 29, 11:16pm  

Dholliday126 says

Yeah I caught that, and tell me this....

Why isn't talking about a potential Hunter Biden laptop connection? Do a search for Dominion on that laptop and I bet you get some interesting results. Maybe Trump knew that the fix was in and created a cauldron....


@Dholliday126 - I'm just pinging you so you can see a blast from the past.

The laptop images have LONG been out, but fuck all if I'm going to put them on my computer. They finally figured out a way to prevent me from downloading material from our criminal government - just put child pornography on it.

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