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richwicks says

- why do you think OUR media hasn't reported on these?

Media is not going to report anything that may be exculpatory evidence or positive news for any of the Administrative State's / Democrat Party's political enemies.

My hypothesis is our "news" media is only interested exclusively in propaganda. They never will show you what real information looks like even if it helps the current narrative. NOBODY is reporting on the Surkovleaks leaks that I know of, and I mean any media, not just corporate garbage.

RWSGFY says

In 2016 the so-called "Surkovleaks" dropped. That leak revealed that Russian paratroopers (VDV) were directly involved in the battles in Donbas back in 2014, proving that the Russian military was directly involved and dispelling any claims of any kind of rebellion there. Wikileaks didn't mention the Surkovleaks even once.

@RWSGFY

Please show me where I can find the Surkovleaks leaked emails. I will read them. I have found a synopsis of the emails, but I need the emails to verify that the conclusion I'm being given is correct.

We live in a world where everybody can do the groundwork research, and in which we know our media lies, and deceives the public. The synopsis may be correct, but I cannot tell without original documentation, and neither can you. I need to know if what is said is true, or deceptive. Where are the original emails?

RWSGFY says

Guess who is not talking about the Vulkan Files exposing Russian activities? Correct:

Wikileaks

First, this has no connection to Assange as he is rotting in an English prison thanks to the United States. So I would think as a US citizen, your focus would be on the US. So why are you attempting to derail the thread into Russian conspiracy theories?

antiwar.com has done extensive work on the current fiasco in Ukraine, and their only angle is no war. When you post something from them supporting your claims, I'll remove theories from this reply.

Patrick says

https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/09/09/giant-mobile-billboard-campaign-for-julian-assange-goes-viral-and-will-keep-on-truckin-round-the-nations-capital/

The latest...

" Russian authorities have detained an American reporter for the Wall Street Journal and accused him of spying... Russia’s main security service, the FSB, claimed Thursday that Evan Gershkovich, a correspondent based in Moscow, had been trying to obtain state secrets... " https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/30/business/wsj-journalist-arrested-russia/index.html

To add insult to injury the UK is now talking about media freedom!



The_Deplorable

I might get a bumper sticker that says free "Julian Assange".

Something that says Martyr may soon be more accurate...

Trump should have pardoned Assange when he had the chance.

The_Deplorable says

" UK is now talking about media freedom"

The UK announced they stand shoulder to shoulder with the US for media freedom. US Globalists are now joining the British to defend press freedom!

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Republican RINO - Senate Minority Leader - Mitch McConnell are condemning WSJ reporter's arrest in Russia as a "violation of press freedoms." Yes, the same press freedoms that do not exist in the US.

"Let there be no mistake: journalism is not a crime... We demand the baseless, fabricated charges against Mr. Gershkovich be dropped and he be immediately released and reiterate our condemnation of the Russian government’s continued attempts to intimidate, repress, and punish independent journalists and civil society voices."

If "journalism is not a crime" then why is Julian Assange, locked in a maximum security prison the last four years and why is the U.S. government trying to extradite him for the "crime of good journalism?"

No answer.

https://consortiumnews.com/2023/04/08/washington-says-journalism-is-not-a-crime/

richwicks says

RWSGFY says

In 2016 the so-called "Surkovleaks" dropped. That leak revealed that Russian paratroopers (VDV) were directly involved in the battles in Donbas back in 2014, proving that the Russian military was directly involved and dispelling any claims of any kind of rebellion there. Wikileaks didn't mention the Surkovleaks even once.

RWSGFY

Please show me where I can find the Surkovleaks leaked emails. I will read them. I have found a synopsis of the emails, but I need the emails to verify that the conclusion I'm being given is correct.

We live in a world where everybody can do the groundwork research, and in which we know our media lies, and deceives the public. The synopsis may be correct, but I cannot tell without original documentation, and neither can you. I need to know if what is said is true, or deceptive. Where are the original emails?

Hey at @RWSGFY - can't help but notice you've not responded to this...

Stop trusting some fucktard to do a correct synopsis. If you don't have the original documentation, assume the "synopsis" is false. Why do these mother fuckers refuse to source original information so people can verify it's correct? It's because they're lying.

I went through several years about the Mueller Report's, supposed, findings. You know what I never saw, quotes or page number of links.

Patrick says

Trump should have pardoned Assange when he had the chance.

That would have been the right thing to do. I don’t think that Trump was part of the globalists plan. Nor is he completely anti globalist. But rather the situation is more like this: Trump is one of the greatest showmen of this generation. But while his sense of business and showmanship is excellent his sense of morality is way off. And while he is not bought and paid for by the globalists, he is influenced by them in many ways, including an unspoken fear of losing control of his image which he probably felt would have happened had he pardon what many Americans and others in the west view as a criminal. It’s sad people have that perception, and Assange is not a moral man either by the sound of it. But Wikileaks was not a crime. The Steele Dossier, used to weaponize the justice system, that was a crime.

In London, Brazil's Lula calls for efforts to free Assange and this in response to a question about Assange.

"It is an embarrassment that a journalist who denounced trickery by one state against another is arrested, condemned to die in jail and we do nothing to free him... We talk about freedom of expression; the guy is in prison because he denounced wrongdoing. And the press doesn't do anything in defense of this journalist. I can't understand it."

Last week Australia’s Prime Minister Albanese asked "the US government to call off its prosecution of Assange."

"...enough is enough. There is nothing to be served by his ongoing incarceration. Last November, Albanese told Parliament that his "position is clear and has been made clear to the U.S. administration: That it is time that this matter be brought to a close." https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/london-brazils-lula-calls-efforts-free-assange-99143160

The_Deplorable says

"Last week Australia’s Prime Minister Albanese asked "the US government to call off its prosecution of Assange." "...enough is enough. There is nothing to be served by his ongoing incarceration. Last November, Albanese told Parliament that his "position is clear and has been made clear to the U.S. administration: That it is time that this matter be brought to a close." https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/london-brazils-lula-calls-efforts-free-assange-99143160 "

An Australian cross-party delegation met US Ambassador Caroline Kennedy and asked her help to drop the extradition against WikiLeaks’ founder Julian Assange. They call themselves the "Bring Julian Assange Home Parliamentary Group" and informed Ambassador Caroline Kennedy of "the widespread concern in Australia" about the continued detention of Assange.

"There are a range of views about Assange in the Australian community and the members of the Parliamentary Group reflect that diversity of views. But what is not in dispute in the Group is that Mr Assange is being treated unjustly..." https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/australian-lawmakers-meet-us-envoy-to-seek-release-of-julian-assange/

The US government says the release of the video clips showing the killing of unarmed civilians and journalists in Iraq "put lives in danger." Heh... No kidding? Exposing murder is now a crime?

This is a 2:00 minute video clip of Lula's powerful statement in London demanding Julian Assange's release:

"Brazilian Pres. Lula da Silva calls for a movement to defend Wikileaks founder Julian Assange from the U.S. Empire whose crimes he exposed. Lula said this last Saturday while in London for the coronation of King Charles III."

On World Press Freedom Day, Chris Hedges gave a talk at a rally calling for the immediate release of Julian Assange.

"The detention and persecution of Julian Assange eviscerates all pretense of the rule of law and the rights of a free press. The illegalities, embraced by the Ecuadorian, British, Swedish and U.S. governments are ominous.

They presage a world where the internal workings, abuses, corruption, lies and crimes, especially war crimes, carried out by corporate states and the global ruling elite, will be masked from the public.

They presage a world where those with the courage and integrity to expose the misuse of power will be hunted down, tortured, subjected to sham trials and given lifetime prison terms in solitary confinement.

They presage an Orwellian dystopia where news is replaced with propaganda, trivia and entertainment. The legal lynching of Julian, I fear, marks the official beginning of the corporate totalitarianism that will define our lives." https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chris-hedges-julian-assange-fight-we-must-not-lose

https://babylonbee.com/news/israel-to-buy-weapons-from-america-with-money-given-to-them-by-america-to-shoot-down-iranian-rockets-paid-for-by-america

Biden has approved a $735 million weapons sale to Israel. Israel will be paying for the weapons using money from foreign aid given to them by America. According to experts, Israel needs these weapons so they can shoot down Hamas rockets that were given to them by Iran, who paid for them using money given to them by America.

"Yeah, it's all pretty straightforward," said one Middle East expert. "Not confusing in the least."

According to sources, Iran bought weapons technology with $1.8 billion in cash given to them by the Obama administration. They then provided those weapons to Hamas terrorists in Gaza in order to kill Jews.

Israel is responding with weapons systems purchased with American foreign aid dollars from the Trump administration. ...

Assange says that all of this shit is primarily a way to launder money. I think he's right.

The_Deplorable says

Chris Hedges

Is a huge communist vegan born into Old Money private boarding school Liberation Theory nevermind-about-abominations-ignore-moral-Law-Just-Love Antinomian ZPG Radical Green Environmental on every issue faggot.

He worked for every Establishment and Wealth-funded Leftoid Newpaper and Foundation in the USA, from NYT to the Nation. Thinks the Christian Right is the biggest threat.

He might be right on Assange, but only because he believes it advances his anti-Liberty, pro-Technocracy Far Left Agenda. If he had power through his Progressive People's Party, he'd be just as bad or worse than the NWO with 15-minute cities and mandatory vegan diets and artifical shortages and restrictions based on Climate Bullshit. He just wants touchy-feely "Far Left Love is Love Pastors" running things instead of Oligarchs.

AmericanKulak says

"Chris Hedges... might be right on Assange..."

That is good enough given the topic. He is calling for the immediate release of Julian Assange!

The_Deplorable says

AmericanKulak says

"Chris Hedges... might be right on Assange..."

That is good enough given the topic. He is calling for the immediate release of Julian Assange!

Nah, let that FSB/KGB asset rot.

WikiLeaks' founder Julian Assange declined to publish thousands of Russian government documents in 2016, according to a report Thursday.

The organization, which brands itself specializing in "censored or otherwise restricted official materials involving war, spying and corruption," declined Russian government data that would have amounted to thousands of pages.
...

WikiLeaks has been lauded for publishing troves of U.S. government information, ranging from diplomatic cables to apparent CIA cyber-weapons.

...

"They do not care about the causes of the people they claim to represent," he (Pompeo) said. "If they did, they would focus instead on autocratic regimes in this world that actually suppress free speech and dissent. Instead, they choose to exploit the legitimate secrets of democratic governments, which has — so far — proven to be a much safer approach than provoking a tyrant."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wikileaks-refused-to-publish-russian-government-documents-report

The shtick of independent truth-seeker isn't fooling anybody anymore. Except maybe the shoe-size IQ cohort/McGregor acolites, but these can't be helped.

AmericanKulak says

He worked for every Establishment and Wealth-funded Leftoid Newpaper and Foundation in the USA, from NYT to the Nation. Thinks the Christian Right is the biggest threat.

Oh bullshit. He worked for the NY Times for a long time until he quit because they wouldn't allow him to report honestly on the Iraq War. He's an ordained minister of the Presbyterian Christian Church.

Give me a list of "every Establishment and Wealth-funded Leftoid Newpaper and Foundation in the USA"? I hate exaggeration.

Hedges is kind of a moron in terms of economics, but he's not moral scum at least. He's kind of like Jimmy Dore, in that he's kind of stupid about certain things, but he's not a fucking monster. He's no Rachael Maddow or Cenk Uygur. He just doesn't understand economics, he's as childish about economics as Noam Chomsky is. It's a disease of the educated.

RWSGFY says

Nah, let that FSB/KGB asset rot.

You're such a dishonest person.

Assange is an Australian, and I knew about him in the 1990's. He did what I didn't have the balls to do. I remember thinking that although what he was doing was TECHNICALLY legal, he'd be fucked in time, and I was right.

Russia's government isn't a tenth as corrupt as ours is, even China isn't.

RWSGFY says

"WikiLeaks' founder Julian Assange declined to publish thousands of Russian government documents in 2016, according to a report Thursday."

If you have Russian documents that need to be published why don't you have the NYT, WaPo, NPR, CNN, NBC, BBC etc to publish such Globalist propaganda? You expect Assange to publish this nonsense? No answer!

And who are you to dictate to Julian Assange what to publish? Or is it because you didn't like what he published about Iraq? The murder of unarmed civilians?

He exposed a murder... was that wrong?

richwicks says

Oh bullshit. He worked for the NY Times for a long time until he quit because they wouldn't allow him to report honestly on the Iraq War. He's an ordained minister of the Presbyterian Christian Church.

Of the PCUSA, a far left Liberal Church that ordains Female Pastors in direct violation of the NT, celebrates homosexuality which the Bible says repeatedly is an abomination, embraces "Higher Criticism" aka Everything we don't like is optional and just be vaguely nice according to Post Modern Standards. The "Pastor" Hedges also supports Abortion.

Give me a list of "every Establishment and Wealth-funded Leftoid Newpaper and Foundation in the USA"? I hate exaggeration.

Truthdig, NYT, NPR, and Type Media Center (a foundation set up by the Nation magazine, a prog rag) for starters. He's also worked for Salon, Globalresearch.ca, Commondreams, and of course RT which is Russian propaganda (but should be watched to get a different POV)

richwicks says

Hedges is kind of a moron in terms of economics, but he's not moral scum at least. He's kind of like Jimmy Dore, in that he's kind of stupid about certain things, but he's not a fucking monster. He's no Rachael Maddow or Cenk Uygur. He just doesn't understand economics, he's as childish about economics as Noam Chomsky is. It's a disease of the educated.

He's nothing like Jimmy Dore.

He's a self admitted socialist anarchist. He's a moron and childish regarding just about everything. He wrote a book saying that the Christian Right was the biggest threat to America ( American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America ISBN 0-7432-8443-7), and fellatiates immigrants, open borders, etc.

Here's a few to get you started:
"We were warned for decades about the death march we are on because of global warming. And yet, the global ruling class continues to frog-march us towards extinction." https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/26/chris-hedges-the-dawn-of-the-apocalypse/

He's also a Zero Population Growth nutcase, believes in just about every single Global Warming/Climate Change Bullshit story, and you can verify this yourself by browsing through his articles.
"We Are Breeding Ourselves to Extinction
All efforts to save the planet will be useless if we do not cut population growth. By 2050, the planet will have between 8 billion and 10 billion people, according to a recent U.N. forecast. And yet studies, books and documentaries that deal with various crises fail to discuss the danger of all those billions of hungry people looking for a better life."
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/we-are-breeding-ourselves-to-extinction/

"Chris Hedges interviews writers, intellectuals, and dissidents, many banished from the mainstream, in his half-hour show, The Chris Hedges Report. He gives voice to those, from Cornel West and Noam Chomsky to the leaders of groups such as Extinction Rebellion, who are on the front lines of the struggle against militarism, corporate capitalism, white supremacy, the looming ecocide, as well as the battle to wrest back our democracy from the clutches of the ruling global oligarchy."
https://therealnews.com/the-chris-hedges-report-splinterlands-climate-dystopia

Patriarchy and Muh Soggy Knee! Get men out of Leadership!
"In this installment of The Chris Hedges Report, Chris speaks with V about how the expected overturning of Roe and the attacks on LGBTQ+ rights are part of a global, reactionary, theocratic war for patriarchal domination. V (formerly known as Eve Ensler) is a Tony-award winning playwright, author, and activist. Her new book is The Apology."
https://therealnews.com/the-chris-hedges-report-disaster-patriarchy

And of course, he thinks Trump and MAGA are F-fuh-fuh-FASCIST!"
"The U.S. has its own version of fascism embodied in a Republican party that coalesces in cult-like fashion around Donald Trump, embraces the magical thinking, misogyny, homophobia and white supremacy of the Christian Right and actively subverts the election process."https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/26/we-have-seen-movie-fascists-have-arrived

TL;DR: Chris Hedges is just a broad spectrum left-wing whacko. If it's against the West, it must be Best.

Just because somebody is "Banished from the Mainstream" doesn't make them good people.

AmericanKulak says

Truthdig, NYT, NPR, and Type Media Center (a foundation set up by the Nation magazine, a prog rag) for starters. He's also worked for Salon, Globalresearch.ca, Commondreams, and of course RT which is Russian propaganda (but should be watched to get a different POV)

These weren't all shit at one point. They are now.

AmericanKulak says

Truthdig, NYT, NPR, and Type Media Center (a foundation set up by the Nation magazine, a prog rag) for starters. He's also worked for Salon, Globalresearch.ca, Commondreams, and of course RT which is Russian propaganda (but should be watched to get a different POV)

That was published in 2007. George W. Bush IS a fascist, is Dick Cheney, and John McCain, etc. Neocons ARE fascists, now they are fully integrated with the Democratic party. It was the Neocons that passed the Patriot Act. ALL of our electronic communication is monitored because of the Patriot Act.

AmericanKulak says

He's also a Zero Population Growth nutcase, believes in just about every single Global Warming/Climate Change Bullshit story, and you can verify this yourself by browsing through his articles.

Yes, he's a CHILD still.

Look, I was born in 1971, I remember when the Global Warming hysteria began, about 1985. Being inclined to like science, and understanding the scientific method, I believed that the predictions that were being made would etiher have to be accurate, OR destroy those making those claims. I fully expected the world to change by the time I was 30, well when I got to 35, and nothing had changed, I paused. 5 years later, I realized I had been duped. When I was 40, I realized it was all bullshit.

NOW: What surprised me, is that other people haven't realized they were duped.

This is a major scandal. They continue to make the same end of the world predictions, and have a record of awfu ones. No more snow in the UK, the arctic will be ice free during summer, ocean levels will rise, glaciers will disappear, we'll have the hockey stick in warming, blah blah blah. They weren't a LITTLE wrong, they were a LOT wrong.

It's stunning to me that people still believe it, but I know why they did. "Climate scientists" have proven themselves to be full of crap to my satisfaction. I just didn't think people would do this when I was 15 because if they were lying, they would be caught. Well, they are caught, and they still continue to lie. THAT'S astounding to me.

AmericanKulak says

Just because somebody is "Banished from the Mainstream" doesn't make them good people.

I don't want to defend Hedges TOO much because he's an idiot, but he's not a fucking self aware propagandist liar. He believes what he says. He's WRONG about much what he says, but at least he believes it. Rachael Maddow doesn't, Sean Hannity doesn't, Anderson Cooper doesn't - NOBODY in corporate media does. These people are just ignorant people making mistakes, they are active propagandists that KNOW they are lying.

When I compared Hedges to Jimmy Dore, what I meant by that is I can see Dore SLOWLY learning, but he's certainly learning. He has the same opinion of George W. Bush and Barack Obama that I do. I had my opinion of Obama set within 2 years of him being in office, he didn't stop the wars, so I knew he wouldn't by then. Dore held out hope, but now he states that Obama "took 2 wars, and expanded it to 5" - and he's right. Dore even has GRUDGING respect for Trump, because Trump didn't start a new war.

Dore is slow, but he IS learning. Hedges, is even slower but he's not malicious. I disagree with Hedges but as far as "news" people go, he's one of the BETTER ones, because he's not complete garbage.

Here, let me give you some GOOD people: Jimmy Dore, Glenn Greenwald, Richie Allen, Ryan Dawson, The Last American Vagabond (Ryan Cristian?), James Corbett - and that's in NO particular order and I don't everything they say. They ARE wrong about somethings, but they don't lie. They make mistakes but they are right more often than they are wrong.

I find Hedges to be, juvenile in his thinking. Innocent.

Being banished from "mainstream" doesn't make you a good person, but if you're embraced by it, you're NOT a good person, period.

And BTW - Chomsky is a bad person. He's controlled opposition. He's right about what he says about Israel, but he just exists to provide an outlet toward frustration on that issue. I don't trust Chomsky and some of his ideas about economics is beyond childish, it's downright stupid.

RWSGFY says

Nah, let that FSB/KGB asset rot.

You make some good points, then you shoot yourself in the foot with obvious emotion based comments like this. I would guess Wikileaks receives a lot of stuff they don't publish. If you put out everything, even the garbage, that becomes a good way promote censorship, diluting the quality so no one pays attention to the good stuff.

America MIC killing journalists, high quality. Democrats abusing children, high quality. Did you ever consider that the Russian docs may not have been high quality?

Do you know the roots of Wikileaks, Assange's past? The Mad Cow hacker collective? Again, I think your extremist viewpoints on Russia have prevented discourse, and provided rants.

But fuck all that, dude could have cut a deal and sold out his sources. Instead he's being tortured to death in Belmarsh. And before you say it's not torture, spend some time in solitary.

Your view is shared by Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden, as well as the directors of every three letter agency. A group of sociopaths and dictators. It's a fucked viewpoint, and Putin would love it.

NuttBoxer says

RWSGFY says

Nah, let that FSB/KGB asset rot.

You make some good points, then you shoot yourself in the foot with obvious emotion based comments like this.

RWSGFY isn't making an emotional statement, this is calculated.

Every group is infiltrated. It doesn't matter if they are paid propagandists or useful idiots. RWSGFY has consistently shown his willingness to distort information and to lie through omission though. This is an indication of either an extreme lack of ethics, or he's a professional propagandist. Do not waste your time or thoughts trying to figure out which. It could simply be a simple AI script.

You can identify them in that they will talk, but they won't listen, they won't engage.

The_Deplorable says

Nah, fuck these two fakes.

They put their lives on the line for your freedom. More than you've ever done for yourself Benedict.

https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/breaking-tucker-carlson-went-to-see

Tucker Carlson Went To See Julian Assange At Belmarsh Prison

Will This Be The Interview Of The Century?