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richwicks
2022 Sep 28, 8:37pm
richwicks
2022 Sep 28, 8:37pm
Eric Holder says
@"Eric Holder"
What are you talking about?
Are you referring to my disbelief about our lying, neocon, mass murdering fucker's reports on what Russia is doing? Of course I do. Neocons are no different than Libshits. Nothing they say nor their lapdog media claims can be trusted.
You think I approve of George W. Bush lying us into a war just because Julian Assange showed that Hillary Clinton was a bloodthirsty Neocon?
If I had the power, I would just kill every government official and every government employee and every intelligence agent, anybody that was a general or above, and every fucking journalist, and everybody in financial services. Now, there would be a few innocent people killed (less than 1%) but just imagine the result?
Maybe the vaccines will do this. We'll see.
Remember, these are the people you still, inexplicably, listen to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x0l6rSAtrM
Fucking hilarious. A fighter pilot with a beard. So fucking funny.
Ah, puhleeze: these "war crimes" were obviously staged. A little CGI here, a little video editing there.... Right, @richwicks?
@"Eric Holder"
What are you talking about?
Are you referring to my disbelief about our lying, neocon, mass murdering fucker's reports on what Russia is doing? Of course I do. Neocons are no different than Libshits. Nothing they say nor their lapdog media claims can be trusted.
You think I approve of George W. Bush lying us into a war just because Julian Assange showed that Hillary Clinton was a bloodthirsty Neocon?
If I had the power, I would just kill every government official and every government employee and every intelligence agent, anybody that was a general or above, and every fucking journalist, and everybody in financial services. Now, there would be a few innocent people killed (less than 1%) but just imagine the result?
Maybe the vaccines will do this. We'll see.
Remember, these are the people you still, inexplicably, listen to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x0l6rSAtrM
Fucking hilarious. A fighter pilot with a beard. So fucking funny.
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Eric Holder
2022 Sep 29, 11:12am
Eric Holder
2022 Sep 29, 11:12am
richwicks says
The "staged" Bucha massacre of course. It was staged to smear innocent Mother Russia, wasn't it? Gimme the latest sceptic scoop on this one. And no tangents this time, plz.
Eric Holder says
Ah, puhleeze: these "war crimes" were obviously staged. A little CGI here, a little video editing there.... Right, @richwicks?
@"Eric Holder"
What are you talking about?
The "staged" Bucha massacre of course. It was staged to smear innocent Mother Russia, wasn't it? Gimme the latest sceptic scoop on this one. And no tangents this time, plz.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2022 Sep 29, 6:33pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2022 Sep 29, 6:33pm
Eric Holder says
This is easy, provide a link to the story that verifies it, and is not from AP/mainstream media/propaganda networks. Or you could take a hard dose of reality and read antiwar.com. Their only agenda is peace.
https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2022/04/07/conflicts-of-interest-the-west-rushes-to-act-against-russia-over-bucha-war-crime-allegations/
The "staged" Bucha massacre of course.
This is easy, provide a link to the story that verifies it, and is not from AP/mainstream media/propaganda networks. Or you could take a hard dose of reality and read antiwar.com. Their only agenda is peace.
https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2022/04/07/conflicts-of-interest-the-west-rushes-to-act-against-russia-over-bucha-war-crime-allegations/
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richwicks
2022 Sep 30, 2:14am
richwicks
2022 Sep 30, 2:14am
Eric Holder says
It was staged. Ukraine killed them.
Eric Holder says
Russia isn't innocent. Quit this stupid false dichotomy.
Eric Holder says
Will you think for a moment? Just think.
How does this advantage Russia in any way? Who benefits from this propaganda? I'm using propaganda in the way Edward Bernays used it. Cui Bono?
Why did the mayor of Bucha not mention this when he announced Russia had left, why did he wait days?
Why didn't citizens record it happening capturing Russian soldiers in the act? Everybody has a camera today on their phone, that's been true for over 15 years really. I'm sure acts WERE recorded, but they wouldn't be broadcast in the United States, allowed on youtube, or facebook, or twitter if, say, the Azov Battalion did this, or the Right Sector against Russian sympathizers.
Ukraine has openly shown torture of Russian soldiers several times. Has Russia? You can find that pretty easily on youtube, facebook, and twitter.
I know what sort of news media we have. Think about Ghouta's gas attack. How did this advantage Assad? It gave the US an excuse to bomb Syria, and the US warned Assad BEFORE that chemical attack that if Assad did a chemical attack, it would invite the US into the conflict. Is Assad stupid? Are his advisors stupid? If he just wanted to indiscriminately kill people, why not use conventional weapons? Again, who benefits?
The type of propaganda we're being fed about the Ukraine war is as stupid, as mindless, and as ridiculous as it is in EVERY war. Do you truly believe this nonsense?
The US media is now claiming that Russia blew up their OWN INFRASTRUCTURE - why would they do this? Why didn't they just turn off the pipeline? Cui bono? Well, the US is going to be selling a lot more LNG to Europe now...
I seriously do not believe you are this oblivious. I don't believe you actually believe the nonsense coming out of our government. I am old enough to remember when the US media would make fun of the claims made in Pravda and Izvestia. Now, there are people like Jimmy Dore that make a living making fun of our media. It's trivial to do.
This is how gullible they expect the public to be:
original link
Do you see anything ludicrous in that? Two whistleblowers from the OPCW came forward to point out that never happened. That was in Douma, or that's what CNN claims. How can you NOT suspect our government MIGHT be lying, at this point? That was in 2018. That was 5 years ago. How can you not know what our government does at this late stage? Find that weapons of mass destruction program yet? Do you not remember when Dick Cheney was claiming that binLaden worked with Hussein to do 9/11? Do you not remember that the government, and the media was claiming that Qaddafi was taking viagra pills to rape young girls, and that the US had to bomb it to prevent a humanitarian crisis? How can you not remember?
Our media and government's lies are simply embarrassing at this point. I remember when our propaganda stood the test of time, and it didn't collapse in a couple of days, like the "Bucha massacre" did.
You have never shown your ability to think, and I'm certain you can think. I just don't believe you honestly hold the opinion you claim to hold. You're named after probably our most criminal attorney general in the United States, a man that refused to prosecute anybody in the banking sector, and said it publicly, even after massive mortgage fraud. I think you must be a troll or a glowie. Every group is infiltrated, EVERY group is. Propagandists don't get paid well, and as a result, they're not very good at their job. The main purpose of propaganda isn't to fool smart people, it's designed to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all. People are told what to believe, but they are never told why they should think that. Why should anybody believe Russia did a massacre in Bucha? Ukraine has been in civil war for over 8 years now, why should we believe their military wouldn't brutalize Russian sympathizers, when they've been doing this for nearly a decade?
Is it the high credibility of the US government and it's "news" system that causes you to uncritically believe this?
Demonstrate you can think. I KNOW you can. People in the propaganda haze, they exit, but it's a mistake to think they are stupid. They aren't, they just go down the path of least resistance, even if it's morally reprehensible to do so.
The "staged" Bucha massacre of course.
It was staged. Ukraine killed them.
Eric Holder says
It was staged to smear innocent Mother Russia, wasn't it?
Russia isn't innocent. Quit this stupid false dichotomy.
Eric Holder says
Gimme the latest sceptic scoop on this one. And no tangents this time, plz.
Will you think for a moment? Just think.
How does this advantage Russia in any way? Who benefits from this propaganda? I'm using propaganda in the way Edward Bernays used it. Cui Bono?
Why did the mayor of Bucha not mention this when he announced Russia had left, why did he wait days?
Why didn't citizens record it happening capturing Russian soldiers in the act? Everybody has a camera today on their phone, that's been true for over 15 years really. I'm sure acts WERE recorded, but they wouldn't be broadcast in the United States, allowed on youtube, or facebook, or twitter if, say, the Azov Battalion did this, or the Right Sector against Russian sympathizers.
Ukraine has openly shown torture of Russian soldiers several times. Has Russia? You can find that pretty easily on youtube, facebook, and twitter.
I know what sort of news media we have. Think about Ghouta's gas attack. How did this advantage Assad? It gave the US an excuse to bomb Syria, and the US warned Assad BEFORE that chemical attack that if Assad did a chemical attack, it would invite the US into the conflict. Is Assad stupid? Are his advisors stupid? If he just wanted to indiscriminately kill people, why not use conventional weapons? Again, who benefits?
The type of propaganda we're being fed about the Ukraine war is as stupid, as mindless, and as ridiculous as it is in EVERY war. Do you truly believe this nonsense?
The US media is now claiming that Russia blew up their OWN INFRASTRUCTURE - why would they do this? Why didn't they just turn off the pipeline? Cui bono? Well, the US is going to be selling a lot more LNG to Europe now...
I seriously do not believe you are this oblivious. I don't believe you actually believe the nonsense coming out of our government. I am old enough to remember when the US media would make fun of the claims made in Pravda and Izvestia. Now, there are people like Jimmy Dore that make a living making fun of our media. It's trivial to do.
This is how gullible they expect the public to be:
original link
Do you see anything ludicrous in that? Two whistleblowers from the OPCW came forward to point out that never happened. That was in Douma, or that's what CNN claims. How can you NOT suspect our government MIGHT be lying, at this point? That was in 2018. That was 5 years ago. How can you not know what our government does at this late stage? Find that weapons of mass destruction program yet? Do you not remember when Dick Cheney was claiming that binLaden worked with Hussein to do 9/11? Do you not remember that the government, and the media was claiming that Qaddafi was taking viagra pills to rape young girls, and that the US had to bomb it to prevent a humanitarian crisis? How can you not remember?
Our media and government's lies are simply embarrassing at this point. I remember when our propaganda stood the test of time, and it didn't collapse in a couple of days, like the "Bucha massacre" did.
You have never shown your ability to think, and I'm certain you can think. I just don't believe you honestly hold the opinion you claim to hold. You're named after probably our most criminal attorney general in the United States, a man that refused to prosecute anybody in the banking sector, and said it publicly, even after massive mortgage fraud. I think you must be a troll or a glowie. Every group is infiltrated, EVERY group is. Propagandists don't get paid well, and as a result, they're not very good at their job. The main purpose of propaganda isn't to fool smart people, it's designed to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all. People are told what to believe, but they are never told why they should think that. Why should anybody believe Russia did a massacre in Bucha? Ukraine has been in civil war for over 8 years now, why should we believe their military wouldn't brutalize Russian sympathizers, when they've been doing this for nearly a decade?
Is it the high credibility of the US government and it's "news" system that causes you to uncritically believe this?
Demonstrate you can think. I KNOW you can. People in the propaganda haze, they exit, but it's a mistake to think they are stupid. They aren't, they just go down the path of least resistance, even if it's morally reprehensible to do so.
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richwicks
2022 Sep 30, 2:41am
richwicks
2022 Sep 30, 2:41am
Eric Holder says
No, that's not an undesirable effect of bombing Libya. The US, for whatever reason, is actively trying to destroy Europe. I don't know why, but that's what every single one of their actions is leading toward.
The government always would rather appear to be incompetent rather than what they actually are, criminal.
Europe could put an end to the immigration problem by going against the United States, and point out that the US is creating the refugee crisis, which they are. Europe is run by traitors, they don't represent their population. It's the same in the United States. We are not governed by consent.
Sounds like legit reasons. The flood of illegals is an undesirable side effect, of course, but the rest is solid.
No, that's not an undesirable effect of bombing Libya. The US, for whatever reason, is actively trying to destroy Europe. I don't know why, but that's what every single one of their actions is leading toward.
The government always would rather appear to be incompetent rather than what they actually are, criminal.
Europe could put an end to the immigration problem by going against the United States, and point out that the US is creating the refugee crisis, which they are. Europe is run by traitors, they don't represent their population. It's the same in the United States. We are not governed by consent.
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Patrick
2022 Oct 27, 9:33pm
Patrick
2022 Oct 27, 9:33pm
@wikileaks
Julian Assange speaking in 2011: "The goal is to use Afghanistan to wash money out of the tax bases of the US and Europe through Afghanistan and back into the hands of a transnational security elite. The goal is an endless war, not a successful war" #Afghanistan
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stereotomy
2023 Jan 8, 7:51am
stereotomy
2023 Jan 8, 7:51am
richwicks says
I'm not a glowie, nor do I play one on television, but I have to say that this is one of the most enlightening insights on the purpose of propaganda that I've come across on Patnet.I guess the propagandists really do think we're stupid ostriches whose only job is to keep our heads in the sand.
Every group is infiltrated, EVERY group is. Propagandists don't get paid well, and as a result, they're not very good at their job. The main purpose of propaganda isn't to fool smart people, it's designed to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all. People are told what to believe, but they are never told why they should think that.
I'm not a glowie, nor do I play one on television, but I have to say that this is one of the most enlightening insights on the purpose of propaganda that I've come across on Patnet.I guess the propagandists really do think we're stupid ostriches whose only job is to keep our heads in the sand.
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richwicks
2023 Jan 8, 2:48pm
richwicks
2023 Jan 8, 2:48pm
stereotomy says
Just beware that nobody is immune from propaganda, neither you or me.
PLAUSIBLE stuff is said all the time, that is false. There's a false dichotomy between the "left" and "right" as well. Don't think you're immune, nobody is. Right now the "conservatives" are being told that there will be investigations into the FIB and CIA and other trash criminal organizations for suppressing the 1st amendment. I'm telling you, IF there is any hearings at all, it will be sham.
Remember the Durham Report? Whatever fucking happened to that? We're being told that Kari Lake MIGHT get her day in court - no she won't. Again, at best, it will be a sham.
These are forms of propaganda as well.
I remember when I was expecting George W. Bush to actually have to deal with impeachment when it was clear the evidence for the phantom weapons of mass destruction program was revealed. Nope.
richwicks says
Every group is infiltrated, EVERY group is. Propagandists don't get paid well, and as a result, they're not very good at their job. The main purpose of propaganda isn't to fool smart people, it's designed to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all. People are told what to believe, but they are never told why they should think that.
I'm not a glowie, nor do I play one on television, but I have to say that this is one of the most enlightening insights on the purpose of propaganda that I've come across on Patnet.I guess the propagandists really do think we're stupid ostriches whose only job is to keep our heads in the sand.
Just beware that nobody is immune from propaganda, neither you or me.
PLAUSIBLE stuff is said all the time, that is false. There's a false dichotomy between the "left" and "right" as well. Don't think you're immune, nobody is. Right now the "conservatives" are being told that there will be investigations into the FIB and CIA and other trash criminal organizations for suppressing the 1st amendment. I'm telling you, IF there is any hearings at all, it will be sham.
Remember the Durham Report? Whatever fucking happened to that? We're being told that Kari Lake MIGHT get her day in court - no she won't. Again, at best, it will be a sham.
These are forms of propaganda as well.
I remember when I was expecting George W. Bush to actually have to deal with impeachment when it was clear the evidence for the phantom weapons of mass destruction program was revealed. Nope.
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FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden
2023 Jan 8, 3:06pm
richwicks says
yep, and just a bit more. don’t hold others to impossible standard of not being victim to propaganda. it gets everyone sooner or later.
in Christ we learn to forgive, and to the best of my ability i try to do that. hope this is useful.
Just beware that nobody is immune from propaganda, neither you or me.
yep, and just a bit more. don’t hold others to impossible standard of not being victim to propaganda. it gets everyone sooner or later.
in Christ we learn to forgive, and to the best of my ability i try to do that. hope this is useful.
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HeadSet
2023 Jan 8, 3:33pm
HeadSet
2023 Jan 8, 3:33pm
FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says
Commendable, but I do not feel forgiveness to those who created or mandated the jab. I want justice.
in Christ we learn to forgive, and to the best of my ability i try to do that.
Commendable, but I do not feel forgiveness to those who created or mandated the jab. I want justice.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Jan 8, 8:14pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Jan 8, 8:14pm
You can forgive someone and sentence them to the gallows. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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Patrick
2023 Mar 18, 7:36pm
This is another reason I lost faith in Trump, along with his failure to state the obvious danger and inefficacy of the toxxine.
Why didn't Trump pardon Snowdon and Assange?
Patrick
2023 Mar 18, 7:36pm
This is another reason I lost faith in Trump, along with his failure to state the obvious danger and inefficacy of the toxxine.
Why didn't Trump pardon Snowdon and Assange?
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Mar 18, 8:53pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Mar 18, 8:53pm
Same reason he didn't pardon Ross Ulbricht. They're all on the same side. From Trump, all the way back to Clinton, not a single president has done right by our patriots.
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richwicks
2023 Mar 18, 9:22pm
richwicks
2023 Mar 18, 9:22pm
Patrick says
Would create too many political enemies. This was stupidity on his part, they were already enemies at the time and he wanted to be "friends". That will never happen.
He had nothing to lose by pardoning them, and he didn't realize this, is my opinion.
Why didn't Trump pardon Snowdon and Assange?
Would create too many political enemies. This was stupidity on his part, they were already enemies at the time and he wanted to be "friends". That will never happen.
He had nothing to lose by pardoning them, and he didn't realize this, is my opinion.
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Patrick
2023 Mar 18, 10:17pm
Patrick
2023 Mar 18, 10:17pm
https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1636565548782743552?ref_src=patrick.net
@VigilantFox
New Documentary Aims to Bolster Support for the Free Assange Movement
@TuckerCarlson
: "I don't understand how politicians can get up and say they support democracy and simultaneously support the imprisonment of a man for telling the population what the government is doing in its name."
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Eman
2023 Mar 18, 10:19pm
Eman
2023 Mar 18, 10:19pm
richwicks says
💯% in agreement. Trump screwed up by not pardoning them.
Patrick says
Why didn't Trump pardon Snowdon and Assange?
Would create too many political enemies. This was stupidity on his part, they were already enemies at the time and he wanted to be "friends". That will never happen.
He had nothing to lose by pardoning them, and he didn't realize this, is my opinion.
💯% in agreement. Trump screwed up by not pardoning them.
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Patrick
2023 Mar 22, 9:45pm
Patrick
2023 Mar 22, 9:45pm
https://slaynews.com/news/mexicos-president-humiliates-joe-biden-sides-with-donald-trump-why-not-allow-the-people-to-decide/
Mexico’s leftist President Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO) has publicly humiliated Democrat President Joe Biden.
During a press conference, AMLO decried Biden over the Democrats’ efforts to indict President Donald Trump.
He said Biden can no longer lecture other countries about democracy if Trump is arrested.
“Right now, former President Trump is declaring that they are going to arrest him,” the Mexican leader said.
“If that were the case, it would be so that his name doesn’t appear on the ballot.
“I say this because I too have suffered from the fabrication of a crime when they didn’t want me to run.
“And this is completely anti-democratic.
“Why not allow the people to decide?”
He also called out Biden specifically, saying the United States cannot talk about human rights with Julian Assange detained, cartel violence with Biden bombing the Nord Stream pipeline, or democracy while arresting the leading presidential candidate Donald Trump.
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richwicks
2023 Mar 23, 2:22am
richwicks
2023 Mar 23, 2:22am
Eman says
I'm also in 100% agreement. He should have. Fuck the establishment assholes. He just didn't have the balls, but he has family to worry about being murdered - I can see that, but didn't he know the nest of rats he was invading?
💯% in agreement. Trump screwed up by not pardoning them.
I'm also in 100% agreement. He should have. Fuck the establishment assholes. He just didn't have the balls, but he has family to worry about being murdered - I can see that, but didn't he know the nest of rats he was invading?
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RWSGFY
2023 Apr 1, 2:40pm
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1641779403662192640?ref_src=patrick.net
RWSGFY
2023 Apr 1, 2:40pm
Guess who is not talking about the Vulkan Files exposing Russian activities? Correct:
Wikileaks
This obscure organization which claims to support whistleblowers and even bears "leaks" in the name "suspiciously" omits the revelations which embarrass Putin-Russia. One might assume that this is exactly that kind of event which would have them all over the place, but it's not, and it is not even the first time.
In 2016 the so-called "Surkovleaks" dropped. That leak revealed that Russian paratroopers (VDV) were directly involved in the battles in Donbas back in 2014, proving that the Russian military was directly involved and dispelling any claims of any kind of rebellion there. Wikileaks didn't mention the Surkovleaks even once.
Little earlier in 2016 before the Surkovleaks the Panamapapers dropped. Wikileaks was in the beginning very giddy to report on the Panamapapers since it involved many political enemies of them (and Russia). They changed, however, the tune once Putin and his friends got into crosshairs. Wikileaks was then quick to call it an "attack by Soros" (see first screenshot). This dogwhistle Anti-Semite claim is widely used by right-wing operators around the world. It was clear that Wikileaks didn't want Russia to be involved and tried to deflect all scrutiny where Putin has accumulate wealth on foreign bank accounts.
There have been numerous cases where Wikileaks reacted with critical and deflective responses when it was about Russia. Each separate event might have been a coincidence but the sheer amount of following cases prove a system behind it which cannot be even explained with "selective bias". This went far beyond that.
I have called out Wikileaks for their practices and the result can be seen in the 2nd screenshot. Therefore, I have no problems when Assange is treated like a criminal, because he is a Russian spy.
Wikileaks is a FSB front. A fighter for democracy, transparency and truth would never selectively treat all those leaks in such a different manner or even attack leaks unfavorably for a specific party.
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1641779403662192640?ref_src=patrick.net
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richwicks
2023 Apr 1, 9:38pm
richwicks
2023 Apr 1, 9:38pm
RWSGFY says
Those would have to be online. Can you give a link to them? I have found things that summarize what was (supposedly) found, but I need to be able to see the emails to verify. For this, it is relatively easy to do, because translation on text is now trivial.
This is all I could find:
https://static.rusi.org/201907_op_surkov_leaks_web_final.pdf
But it doesn't contain any emails.
Here's a question - why do you think OUR media hasn't reported on these?
WRT to Wikileaks, they have never covered anything that wasn't in English as far as I know. They are very good at authenticating information, this may be beyond their abilities.
In 2016 the so-called "Surkovleaks" dropped. That leak revealed that Russian paratroopers (VDV) were directly involved in the battles in Donbas back in 2014, proving that the Russian military was directly involved and dispelling any claims of any kind of rebellion there. Wikileaks didn't mention the Surkovleaks even once.
Those would have to be online. Can you give a link to them? I have found things that summarize what was (supposedly) found, but I need to be able to see the emails to verify. For this, it is relatively easy to do, because translation on text is now trivial.
This is all I could find:
https://static.rusi.org/201907_op_surkov_leaks_web_final.pdf
But it doesn't contain any emails.
Here's a question - why do you think OUR media hasn't reported on these?
WRT to Wikileaks, they have never covered anything that wasn't in English as far as I know. They are very good at authenticating information, this may be beyond their abilities.
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AD
2023 Apr 1, 9:41pm
AD
2023 Apr 1, 9:41pm
richwicks says
Media is not going to report anything that may be exculpatory evidence or positive news for any of the Administrative State's / Democrat Party's political enemies.
.
- why do you think OUR media hasn't reported on these?
Media is not going to report anything that may be exculpatory evidence or positive news for any of the Administrative State's / Democrat Party's political enemies.
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richwicks
2023 Apr 1, 9:43pm
richwicks
2023 Apr 1, 9:43pm
ad says
My hypothesis is our "news" media is only interested exclusively in propaganda. They never will show you what real information looks like even if it helps the current narrative. NOBODY is reporting on the Surkovleaks leaks that I know of, and I mean any media, not just corporate garbage.
richwicks says
- why do you think OUR media hasn't reported on these?
Media is not going to report anything that may be exculpatory evidence or positive news for any of the Administrative State's / Democrat Party's political enemies.
My hypothesis is our "news" media is only interested exclusively in propaganda. They never will show you what real information looks like even if it helps the current narrative. NOBODY is reporting on the Surkovleaks leaks that I know of, and I mean any media, not just corporate garbage.
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richwicks
2023 Apr 3, 12:33am
richwicks
2023 Apr 3, 12:33am
RWSGFY says
@RWSGFY
Please show me where I can find the Surkovleaks leaked emails. I will read them. I have found a synopsis of the emails, but I need the emails to verify that the conclusion I'm being given is correct.
We live in a world where everybody can do the groundwork research, and in which we know our media lies, and deceives the public. The synopsis may be correct, but I cannot tell without original documentation, and neither can you. I need to know if what is said is true, or deceptive. Where are the original emails?
In 2016 the so-called "Surkovleaks" dropped. That leak revealed that Russian paratroopers (VDV) were directly involved in the battles in Donbas back in 2014, proving that the Russian military was directly involved and dispelling any claims of any kind of rebellion there. Wikileaks didn't mention the Surkovleaks even once.
@RWSGFY
Please show me where I can find the Surkovleaks leaked emails. I will read them. I have found a synopsis of the emails, but I need the emails to verify that the conclusion I'm being given is correct.
We live in a world where everybody can do the groundwork research, and in which we know our media lies, and deceives the public. The synopsis may be correct, but I cannot tell without original documentation, and neither can you. I need to know if what is said is true, or deceptive. Where are the original emails?
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Apr 3, 11:31am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Apr 3, 11:31am
RWSGFY says
First, this has no connection to Assange as he is rotting in an English prison thanks to the United States. So I would think as a US citizen, your focus would be on the US. So why are you attempting to derail the thread into Russian conspiracy theories?
antiwar.com has done extensive work on the current fiasco in Ukraine, and their only angle is no war. When you post something from them supporting your claims, I'll remove theories from this reply.
Guess who is not talking about the Vulkan Files exposing Russian activities? Correct:
Wikileaks
First, this has no connection to Assange as he is rotting in an English prison thanks to the United States. So I would think as a US citizen, your focus would be on the US. So why are you attempting to derail the thread into Russian conspiracy theories?
antiwar.com has done extensive work on the current fiasco in Ukraine, and their only angle is no war. When you post something from them supporting your claims, I'll remove theories from this reply.
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The_Deplorable
2023 Apr 3, 7:41pm
Patrick says
The latest...
" Russian authorities have detained an American reporter for the Wall Street Journal and accused him of spying... Russia’s main security service, the FSB, claimed Thursday that Evan Gershkovich, a correspondent based in Moscow, had been trying to obtain state secrets... " https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/30/business/wsj-journalist-arrested-russia/index.html
To add insult to injury the UK is now talking about media freedom!
The_Deplorable
https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/09/09/giant-mobile-billboard-campaign-for-julian-assange-goes-viral-and-will-keep-on-truckin-round-the-nations-capital/
The latest...
" Russian authorities have detained an American reporter for the Wall Street Journal and accused him of spying... Russia’s main security service, the FSB, claimed Thursday that Evan Gershkovich, a correspondent based in Moscow, had been trying to obtain state secrets... " https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/30/business/wsj-journalist-arrested-russia/index.html
To add insult to injury the UK is now talking about media freedom!
The_Deplorable
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The_Deplorable
2023 Apr 9, 8:09pm
The_Deplorable says
The UK announced they stand shoulder to shoulder with the US for media freedom. US Globalists are now joining the British to defend press freedom!
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Republican RINO - Senate Minority Leader - Mitch McConnell are condemning WSJ reporter's arrest in Russia as a "violation of press freedoms." Yes, the same press freedoms that do not exist in the US.
"Let there be no mistake: journalism is not a crime... We demand the baseless, fabricated charges against Mr. Gershkovich be dropped and he be immediately released and reiterate our condemnation of the Russian government’s continued attempts to intimidate, repress, and punish independent journalists and civil society voices."
If "journalism is not a crime" then why is Julian Assange, locked in a maximum security prison the last four years and why is the U.S. government trying to extradite him for the "crime of good journalism?"
No answer.
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/04/08/washington-says-journalism-is-not-a-crime/
" UK is now talking about media freedom"
The UK announced they stand shoulder to shoulder with the US for media freedom. US Globalists are now joining the British to defend press freedom!
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Republican RINO - Senate Minority Leader - Mitch McConnell are condemning WSJ reporter's arrest in Russia as a "violation of press freedoms." Yes, the same press freedoms that do not exist in the US.
"Let there be no mistake: journalism is not a crime... We demand the baseless, fabricated charges against Mr. Gershkovich be dropped and he be immediately released and reiterate our condemnation of the Russian government’s continued attempts to intimidate, repress, and punish independent journalists and civil society voices."
If "journalism is not a crime" then why is Julian Assange, locked in a maximum security prison the last four years and why is the U.S. government trying to extradite him for the "crime of good journalism?"
No answer.
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/04/08/washington-says-journalism-is-not-a-crime/
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richwicks
2023 May 5, 2:29am
richwicks
2023 May 5, 2:29am
richwicks says
Hey at @RWSGFY - can't help but notice you've not responded to this...
Stop trusting some fucktard to do a correct synopsis. If you don't have the original documentation, assume the "synopsis" is false. Why do these mother fuckers refuse to source original information so people can verify it's correct? It's because they're lying.
I went through several years about the Mueller Report's, supposed, findings. You know what I never saw, quotes or page number of links.
RWSGFY says
In 2016 the so-called "Surkovleaks" dropped. That leak revealed that Russian paratroopers (VDV) were directly involved in the battles in Donbas back in 2014, proving that the Russian military was directly involved and dispelling any claims of any kind of rebellion there. Wikileaks didn't mention the Surkovleaks even once.
RWSGFY
Please show me where I can find the Surkovleaks leaked emails. I will read them. I have found a synopsis of the emails, but I need the emails to verify that the conclusion I'm being given is correct.
We live in a world where everybody can do the groundwork research, and in which we know our media lies, and deceives the public. The synopsis may be correct, but I cannot tell without original documentation, and neither can you. I need to know if what is said is true, or deceptive. Where are the original emails?
Hey at @RWSGFY - can't help but notice you've not responded to this...
Stop trusting some fucktard to do a correct synopsis. If you don't have the original documentation, assume the "synopsis" is false. Why do these mother fuckers refuse to source original information so people can verify it's correct? It's because they're lying.
I went through several years about the Mueller Report's, supposed, findings. You know what I never saw, quotes or page number of links.
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PeopleUnited
2023 May 5, 4:05am
PeopleUnited
2023 May 5, 4:05am
Patrick says
That would have been the right thing to do. I don’t think that Trump was part of the globalists plan. Nor is he completely anti globalist. But rather the situation is more like this: Trump is one of the greatest showmen of this generation. But while his sense of business and showmanship is excellent his sense of morality is way off. And while he is not bought and paid for by the globalists, he is influenced by them in many ways, including an unspoken fear of losing control of his image which he probably felt would have happened had he pardon what many Americans and others in the west view as a criminal. It’s sad people have that perception, and Assange is not a moral man either by the sound of it. But Wikileaks was not a crime. The Steele Dossier, used to weaponize the justice system, that was a crime.
Trump should have pardoned Assange when he had the chance.
That would have been the right thing to do. I don’t think that Trump was part of the globalists plan. Nor is he completely anti globalist. But rather the situation is more like this: Trump is one of the greatest showmen of this generation. But while his sense of business and showmanship is excellent his sense of morality is way off. And while he is not bought and paid for by the globalists, he is influenced by them in many ways, including an unspoken fear of losing control of his image which he probably felt would have happened had he pardon what many Americans and others in the west view as a criminal. It’s sad people have that perception, and Assange is not a moral man either by the sound of it. But Wikileaks was not a crime. The Steele Dossier, used to weaponize the justice system, that was a crime.
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The_Deplorable
2023 May 8, 11:22am
In London, Brazil's Lula calls for efforts to free Assange and this in response to a question about Assange.
"It is an embarrassment that a journalist who denounced trickery by one state against another is arrested, condemned to die in jail and we do nothing to free him... We talk about freedom of expression; the guy is in prison because he denounced wrongdoing. And the press doesn't do anything in defense of this journalist. I can't understand it."
Last week Australia’s Prime Minister Albanese asked "the US government to call off its prosecution of Assange."
"...enough is enough. There is nothing to be served by his ongoing incarceration. Last November, Albanese told Parliament that his "position is clear and has been made clear to the U.S. administration: That it is time that this matter be brought to a close." https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/london-brazils-lula-calls-efforts-free-assange-99143160
"It is an embarrassment that a journalist who denounced trickery by one state against another is arrested, condemned to die in jail and we do nothing to free him... We talk about freedom of expression; the guy is in prison because he denounced wrongdoing. And the press doesn't do anything in defense of this journalist. I can't understand it."
Last week Australia’s Prime Minister Albanese asked "the US government to call off its prosecution of Assange."
"...enough is enough. There is nothing to be served by his ongoing incarceration. Last November, Albanese told Parliament that his "position is clear and has been made clear to the U.S. administration: That it is time that this matter be brought to a close." https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/london-brazils-lula-calls-efforts-free-assange-99143160
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The_Deplorable
2023 May 10, 9:08am
The_Deplorable says
An Australian cross-party delegation met US Ambassador Caroline Kennedy and asked her help to drop the extradition against WikiLeaks’ founder Julian Assange. They call themselves the "Bring Julian Assange Home Parliamentary Group" and informed Ambassador Caroline Kennedy of "the widespread concern in Australia" about the continued detention of Assange.
"There are a range of views about Assange in the Australian community and the members of the Parliamentary Group reflect that diversity of views. But what is not in dispute in the Group is that Mr Assange is being treated unjustly..." https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/australian-lawmakers-meet-us-envoy-to-seek-release-of-julian-assange/
The US government says the release of the video clips showing the killing of unarmed civilians and journalists in Iraq "put lives in danger." Heh... No kidding? Exposing murder is now a crime?
"Last week Australia’s Prime Minister Albanese asked "the US government to call off its prosecution of Assange." "...enough is enough. There is nothing to be served by his ongoing incarceration. Last November, Albanese told Parliament that his "position is clear and has been made clear to the U.S. administration: That it is time that this matter be brought to a close." https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/london-brazils-lula-calls-efforts-free-assange-99143160 "
An Australian cross-party delegation met US Ambassador Caroline Kennedy and asked her help to drop the extradition against WikiLeaks’ founder Julian Assange. They call themselves the "Bring Julian Assange Home Parliamentary Group" and informed Ambassador Caroline Kennedy of "the widespread concern in Australia" about the continued detention of Assange.
"There are a range of views about Assange in the Australian community and the members of the Parliamentary Group reflect that diversity of views. But what is not in dispute in the Group is that Mr Assange is being treated unjustly..." https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/australian-lawmakers-meet-us-envoy-to-seek-release-of-julian-assange/
The US government says the release of the video clips showing the killing of unarmed civilians and journalists in Iraq "put lives in danger." Heh... No kidding? Exposing murder is now a crime?
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The_Deplorable
2023 May 11, 1:11pm
This is a 2:00 minute video clip of Lula's powerful statement in London demanding Julian Assange's release:
"Brazilian Pres. Lula da Silva calls for a movement to defend Wikileaks founder Julian Assange from the U.S. Empire whose crimes he exposed. Lula said this last Saturday while in London for the coronation of King Charles III."
"Brazilian Pres. Lula da Silva calls for a movement to defend Wikileaks founder Julian Assange from the U.S. Empire whose crimes he exposed. Lula said this last Saturday while in London for the coronation of King Charles III."
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The_Deplorable
2023 May 12, 5:33pm
On World Press Freedom Day, Chris Hedges gave a talk at a rally calling for the immediate release of Julian Assange.
"The detention and persecution of Julian Assange eviscerates all pretense of the rule of law and the rights of a free press. The illegalities, embraced by the Ecuadorian, British, Swedish and U.S. governments are ominous.
They presage a world where the internal workings, abuses, corruption, lies and crimes, especially war crimes, carried out by corporate states and the global ruling elite, will be masked from the public.
They presage a world where those with the courage and integrity to expose the misuse of power will be hunted down, tortured, subjected to sham trials and given lifetime prison terms in solitary confinement.
They presage an Orwellian dystopia where news is replaced with propaganda, trivia and entertainment. The legal lynching of Julian, I fear, marks the official beginning of the corporate totalitarianism that will define our lives." https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chris-hedges-julian-assange-fight-we-must-not-lose
"The detention and persecution of Julian Assange eviscerates all pretense of the rule of law and the rights of a free press. The illegalities, embraced by the Ecuadorian, British, Swedish and U.S. governments are ominous.
They presage a world where the internal workings, abuses, corruption, lies and crimes, especially war crimes, carried out by corporate states and the global ruling elite, will be masked from the public.
They presage a world where those with the courage and integrity to expose the misuse of power will be hunted down, tortured, subjected to sham trials and given lifetime prison terms in solitary confinement.
They presage an Orwellian dystopia where news is replaced with propaganda, trivia and entertainment. The legal lynching of Julian, I fear, marks the official beginning of the corporate totalitarianism that will define our lives." https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chris-hedges-julian-assange-fight-we-must-not-lose
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This is one of Trump's failings as well. He should have pardoned both Assange and Snowden.