▲
8
0
▼

Ivermectin


 invite response                
2021 May 9, 10:24pm   81,821 views  629 comments

by Patrick   ➕follow (61)   💰tip   ignore  

https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/05/09/update-on-ivermectin-for-covid-19/

Back in January I wrote an article about four randomized controlled trials of ivermectin as a treatment for covid-19 that had at that time released their results to the public. Each of those four trials had promising results, but each was also too small individually to show any meaningful impact on the hard outcomes we really care about, like death. When I meta-analyzed them together however, the results suddenly appeared very impressive. Here’s what that meta-analysis looked like:



It showed a massive 78% reduction in mortality in patients treated with covid-19. Mortality is the hardest of hard end points, which means it’s the hardest for researchers to manipulate and therefore the least open to bias. Either someone’s dead, or they’re alive. End of story.

You would have thought that this strong overall signal of benefit in the midst of a pandemic would have mobilized the powers that be to arrange multiple large randomized trials to confirm these results as quickly as possible, and that the major medical journals would be falling over each other to be the first to publish these studies.

That hasn’t happened.

Rather the opposite, in fact. South Africa has even gone so far as to ban doctors from using ivermectin on covid-19 patients. And as far as I can tell, most of the discussion about ivermectin in mainstream media (and in the medical press) has centred not around its relative merits, but more around how its proponents are clearly deluded tin foil hat wearing crazies who are using social media to manipulate the masses.

In spite of this, trial results have continued to appear. That means we should now be able to conclude with even greater certainty whether or not ivermectin is effective against covid-19. Since there are so many of these trials popping up now, I’ve decided to limit the discussion here only to the ones I’ve been able to find that had at least 150 participants, and that compared ivermectin to placebo (although I’ll add even the smaller trials I’ve found in to the updated meta-analysis at the end).

As before, it appears that rich western countries have very little interest in studying ivermectin as a treatment for covid. The three new trials that had at least 150 participants and compared ivermectin with placebo were conducted in Colombia, Iran, and Argentina. We’ll go through each in turn. ...

What we see is a 62% reduction in the relative risk of dying among covid patients treated with ivermectin. That would mean that ivermectin prevents roughly three out of five covid deaths. The reduction is statistically significant (p-value 0,004). In other words, the weight of evidence supporting ivermectin continues to pile up. It is now far stronger than the evidence that led to widespred use of remdesivir earlier in the pandemic, and the effect is much larger and more important (remdesivir was only ever shown to marginally decrease length of hospital stay, it was never shown to have any effect on risk of dying).

I understand why pharmaceutical companies don’t like ivermectin. It’s a cheap generic drug. Even Merck, the company that invented ivermectin, is doing it’s best to destroy the drug’s reputation at the moment. This can only be explained by the fact that Merck is currently developing two expensive new covid drugs, and doesn’t want an off-patent drug, which it can no longer make any profit from, competing with them.

The only reason I can think to understand why the broader medical establishment, however, is still so anti-ivermectin is that these studies have all been done outside the rich west. Apparently doctors and scientists outside North America and Western Europe can’t be trusted, unless they’re saying things that are in line with our pre-conceived notions.


And HCQ falls into that same bucket. Even worse - to admit HCQ works would be to admit Trump was right about something.

Liberals would rather that millions die than that Trump be allowed to be right about anything. They hate Trump more than they love their fellow humans.

« First        Comments 102 - 141 of 629       Last »     Search these comments

102   Patrick   2021 Sep 1, 5:03pm  

Anyway, given how very rare it is for anyone under 60 of normal weight to die from this, I don't think any of us are going to actually need Ivermectin at all.

The principle scam in the whole Fauci Flu Fraud is that there is literally a 1000x difference in risk by age, but it's falsely presented as risky to everyone.

They are lying in order to get everyone to submit, to justify the funneling of money to Pfizer and the extreme government control over all our lives, forever.
103   EBGuy   2021 Sep 1, 5:21pm  

Everyone is so butt hurt that Joe Rogan took Ivermectin (among other things) to treat his COVID.

104   AmericanKulak   2021 Sep 1, 5:23pm  

Patrick says


All drugs have a long list of horrors that they are obligated to advertise.

But if you look up the actual safety of Ivermectin, it's up there with aspirin, I belive.


If anybody wants to be entertained, use "Custom Range" to research Ivermetcin side effects.

It's hilarious to read the articles/warnings about it prior to 2020, with the ones made in 2020 and 2021.

Ivermetcin goes from minimal side effects except for people with liver disease, to THE MOST DANGEROUS SIDE EFFECTS IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD!!!
105   HeadSet   2021 Sep 1, 6:55pm  

Patrick says
Because Pfizer/Moderna/J&J/Astra Zeneca have no liability for those horrors.

If precedence law is followed, the day the Pfizer jab was approved, Pfizer acquired liability for the jab. It would take some tortured and twisted legal logic for a judge to rule otherwise.
106   richwicks   2021 Sep 1, 8:18pm  

HeadSet says
Patrick says
Because Pfizer/Moderna/J&J/Astra Zeneca have no liability for those horrors.

If precedence law is followed, the day the Pfizer jab was approved, Pfizer acquired liability for the jab. It would take some tortured and twisted legal logic for a judge to rule otherwise.


The Pfizer jab has not been approved.

A new drug, vaccine, gene therapy, or whatever FROM Pfizer has been approved, it's called Comirnaty. Some people (including a PR release on the FDA's website) are claiming that Comirnaty and the Pfizer jab are the same drug, or vaccine, or whatever you want to call it, but until it shows up as the product "Comirnaty" it's not.

And by the way, you can't sue a manufacturer for ANY side effect from a vaccine. That goes into arbitration, and the GOVERNMENT pays out. Good luck suing the government.
107   PeopleUnited   2021 Sep 1, 8:29pm  

HeadSet says
Patrick says
Because Pfizer/Moderna/J&J/Astra Zeneca have no liability for those horrors.

If precedence law is followed, the day the Pfizer jab was approved, Pfizer acquired liability for the jab. It would take some tortured and twisted legal logic for a judge to rule otherwise.


Here is the law regarding vaccine manufacturers.

“The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act

Congress stepped in with the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 (the Vaccine Act) as a way to ensure that the injured would receive compensation, but also to protect drugmakers from open-ended liability.

In 2011, an important United States Supreme Court ruling clarified the type of lawsuits vaccine manufacturers are protected from under the Vaccine Act. In a 6-2 decision, the Court ruled that the federal law protects drugmakers from design-defect claims as long as the vaccine was properly manufactured and carried adequate warnings labels.“

https://www.findlaw.com/healthcare/patient-rights/can-i-sue-vaccine-manufacturers-.html

The EUA jabs are not even eligible for protection under the above law to my knowledge so: people who take the jabs are doing so completely at their own risk. If Comirnaty is ever manufactured it will fall under the 1986 law that exempts manufactures from direct liability for injuries cause by their product.
108   Patrick   2021 Sep 1, 8:51pm  

https://nationalfile.com/breaking-joe-rogan-got-covid-treated-it-with-vitamins-ivermectin-and-other-drugs-recovered-in-three-days/


Popular podcast host Joe Rogan revealed in a video posted to Instagram on Wednesday that he had contracted COVID, and treated the virus in a period spanning 3 days with a regimen of vitamins and “all kinds of meds, monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, Z-Pak, prednisone, everything.” Rogan’s revelation that he had used drugs sometimes touted by vaccine skeptics to beat COVID incited rage and despair amongst the corporate press.
109   GNL   2021 Sep 1, 9:43pm  

PeopleUnited says
If Comirnaty is ever manufactured

Any idea as to how long it will take to get comirnaty to market?
110   Patrick   2021 Sep 1, 10:18pm  

It will happen as soon as Pfizer can profit from killing people with it without any legal liability.
111   richwicks   2021 Sep 1, 10:21pm  

WineHorror1 says
richwicks says
HeadSet says
richwicks says
I didn't think it was likely anybody would be heavier.

It was a joke. "Asking for a friend" is like a meme.


Yeah, I expected - but I'm humorous when I'm having fun doing stupid technical crap.

It's better to weigh it or...?


I guess would be to weigh it.

It's 6.08 grams, I don't know what the VOLUME is. I was listening to Dr. Malone today, and he said he was on a dosage level that was twice the level I calculated for me.
112   GNL   2021 Sep 1, 10:30pm  

Patrick says
It will happen as soon as Pfizer can profit from killing people with it without any legal liability.

But vaccine manufacturers are protected no matter what, no? Even if/when the FDA approves a vaccine, the manufacturers are protected.
113   Patrick   2021 Sep 1, 11:31pm  

For the unethical presstitutes who call Ivermectin a "horse medication":


Alexandros Marinos
@alexandrosM
5h
I took some dog pain killer the other day. The human version. It's pretty much the same. But theirs is savory and chewable.




114   AmericanKulak   2021 Sep 2, 4:57am  

richwicks says
It's 6.08 grams, I don't know what the VOLUME is. I was listening to Dr. Malone today, and he said he was on a dosage level that was twice the level I calculated for me.


I heard it's 0.2 for preventative, and 0.4 when you're actually infected with "Parasites".
115   richwicks   2021 Sep 2, 7:18am  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
richwicks says
It's 6.08 grams, I don't know what the VOLUME is. I was listening to Dr. Malone today, and he said he was on a dosage level that was twice the level I calculated for me.


I heard it's 0.2 for preventative, and 0.4 when you're actually infected with "Parasites".


Mmmm, I don't know.

Be careful with this shit though. I've HEARD, but have not confirmed, that a major overdose is permanent neurological damage. Got a pet? Next time you're at the vet ask them about it. They'll suspect what you're considering, but who cares? They'll more likely to be honest than a doctor. An MD is more likely to say "don't take a horse dewormer".

Remember Ivermectin is a drug to kill parasites. It's essentially a poison - the bugs are just more sensitive to it than you are.

If you consider taking it, check your math with somebody else - ask here for example. I made a mistake in math on this.

@MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou You did as well You don't mean 0.2 and 0.4, you mean 0.02 and 0.04 - I'm pretty certain. Unless you're pretty big, you're not going to eat more than 1/5 of the horse paste I don't think and that's a strong dose for a 240 lb person. I would recommend against this unless you're desperate, and very confident you got your math right. Calculate it well before time before you even consider it.
116   GNL   2021 Sep 2, 7:41am  

I don't get it. A human can't take the same pound for pound dose as a horse?
117   zzyzzx   2021 Sep 2, 8:03am  

WineHorror1 says
I don't get it. A human can't take the same pound for pound dose as a horse?


You can, and I think most people do. I suspect that you are better off calculating what an appropriate does is for a human though.
119   zzyzzx   2021 Sep 2, 8:16am  

Patrick says
I don't think any of us are going to actually need Ivermectin at all.


I agree, but it might mean the difference between taking off work and not.
120   Booger   2021 Sep 2, 1:41pm  

I identify as a horse and will take ivermectin instead.
121   AmericanKulak   2021 Sep 2, 5:42pm  

My horse loved it.
122   porkchopXpress   2021 Sep 2, 5:45pm  

Rin says
Here's the thing, if you already supplement w/ Allisure Allicin (100+mg per day) & Quercetin Phytosome (250 mg per day), [ along with Vitamin C/D, Zinc, R-Lipoic Acid/N-Acetyl-Cysteine ], you can crank up that daily amount to 2000 mg of Allisure Allicin and 3000 mg of Quercetin Phytosome and you'll see many of those symptoms disappear rapidly.
I wish Thorne made NAC. Tough to find.
126   Shaman   2021 Sep 3, 8:54am  

I got my horse paste last night. Two syringes! I’m set for the eventuality of Covid.
127   stereotomy   2021 Sep 3, 9:04am  

Good horse paste makes good "neigh"bors.
128   Karloff   2021 Sep 3, 9:32am  

This "horse de-wormer" programming is pathetically simplistic and obvious, but sadly still effective on a lot of people. If people refer to it like this I make a comparison as well to show how idiotic it is.

"Water? You mean that liquid that fish use to crap in?"
129   Eric Holder   2021 Sep 3, 10:36am  



Safe dosage or racist plot to kill colored people?
130   joshuatrio   2021 Sep 3, 12:44pm  

My dr is on the ivermectin train. Just got this email from here as they decided on their covid protocol:



I use a self-pay membership option, where neither myself or the doc is at the mercy of insurance payouts.
131   richwicks   2021 Sep 3, 1:10pm  

joshuatrio says
My dr is on the ivermectin train. Just got this email from here as they decided on their covid protocol:



I use a self-pay membership option, where neither myself or the doc is at the mercy of insurance payouts.


Can you post the dosing on the 2nd page? I'd be curious what it is, and from that, I can convert it into horse paste :D
132   joshuatrio   2021 Sep 3, 1:31pm  

richwicks says
joshuatrio says
My dr is on the ivermectin train. Just got this email from here as they decided on their covid protocol:



I use a self-pay membership option, where neither myself or the doc is at the mercy of insurance payouts.


Can you post the dosing on the 2nd page? I'd be curious what it is, and from that, I can convert it into horse paste :D


PREVENTION PROTOCOL
lvermectin1 Chronic Prevention
0.2 mg/kg per dose (take with or after a meal) — twice a week for as long
as disease risk is elevated in your community
Post COVID-19 Exposure Prevention2
0.4 mg/kg per dose (take with or after a meal)  — one dose today, repeat
after 48 hours
Vitamin D3 1,000–3,000 IU/day
Vitamin C 500–1,000 mg twice a day
Quercetin 250 mg/day
Zinc 30–40 mg/day (elemental zinc)
Melatonin 6 mg before bedtime (causes drowsiness)
Gargle mouthwash 2 x daily – gargle (do not swallow) antiseptic mouthwash with cetylpyridinium chloride (e.g. ScopeTM, ActTM, CrestTM), ListerineTM with essential oils,
or povidone/iodine 1 % solution as alternative.
EARLY OUTPATIENT PROTOCOL3
lvermectin1
0.4–0.6 mg/kg per dose (take with or after a meal) — one dose daily, take
for 5 days or until recovered
Use upper dose range if:  1) in regions with aggressive variants (e.g. “Delta” variant);
2) treatment started on or after day 5 of symptoms or in pulmonary phase; or
3) multiple comorbidities/risk factors.
Fluvoxamine4 50 mg twice daily for 10–14 days
Add to ivermectin if: 1) minimal response after 2 days of ivermectin; 2) in regions with
more aggressive variants; 3) treatment started on or after day 5 of symptoms or in
pulmonary phase; or 4) numerous comorbidities/risk factors. Avoid if patient is
already on an SSRI.
Nasal/oral rinse 3 x daily – gargle (do not swallow) antiseptic mouthwash with cetylpyridinium chloride (e.g. ScopeTM, ActTM, CrestTM), ListerineTM with essential oils, or
povidone/iodine 1 % solution as alternative. Nasal rinse instructions below.5
Vitamin D3 4,000 IU/day
Vitamin C 500–1,000 mg twice a day
Quercetin 250 mg twice a day
Zinc 100 mg/day (elemental zinc)
Melatonin 10 mg before bedtime (causes drowsiness)
Aspirin 325 mg/day (unless contraindicated)
Pulse Oximeter Monitoring of oxygen saturation is recommended (for instructions see page 2)
133   Robert Sproul   2021 Sep 3, 4:53pm  

The utterly corrupted AMA has issued a no-nonsense proclamation affirming their corruption:

“Use of ivermectin for the prevention and treatment of COVID-19 has been demonstrated to be harmful to patients. Calls to poison control centers due to ivermectin ingestion have increased five-fold from their pre-pandemic baseline. A recent CDC Health Alert Network Advisory (PDF) recommends that health care professionals should counsel patients against use of ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19, including emphasizing the potentially toxic effects of this drug, including “nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. Overdoses are associated with hypotension and neurologic effects such as decreased consciousness, confusion, hallucinations, seizures, coma, and death.”

Luckily the pompous old wind-bags at the AMA only represent roughly 30% of American Doctors.
135   AmericanKulak   2021 Sep 3, 6:05pm  

Karloff says
"Water? You mean that liquid that fish use to crap in?"


It's all about framing.
136   Patrick   2021 Sep 3, 6:15pm  

A concept from https://heartiste.org/

That guy needs to get the Nobel Prize for his excellent and accurate explanations.
138   Karloff   2021 Sep 3, 7:03pm  

Robert Sproul says
Calls to poison control centers due to ivermectin ingestion have increased five-fold from their pre-pandemic baseline.

So, increased from "one" to "five" calls?

Robert Sproul says
“nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. Overdoses are associated with hypotension and neurologic effects such as decreased consciousness, confusion, hallucinations, seizures, coma, and death.”

Sounds like the same effects as drinking too much scotch.
139   porkchopXpress   2021 Sep 3, 7:57pm  

Karloff says
Robert Sproul says
Calls to poison control centers due to ivermectin ingestion have increased five-fold from their pre-pandemic baseline.

So, increased from "one" to "five" calls?
My thought exactly lol. If they wouldn't ban the human version, people wouldn't risk overdosing on the animal form.
140   Shaman   2021 Sep 3, 8:24pm  

https://shop.coolhorse.com/store/product/DURAMECTIN

This link still works as a source of ivermectin. Most others are toast now. Get it while you can!
141   Patrick   2021 Sep 3, 11:54pm  


Dr. Brian Tyson, MD 🇺🇸
@btysonmd
12h
I cannot believe I have to say this:

“If you do not want early treatment for COVID-19, do not ask for it. However, do not prevent others from getting it just because you don’t agree.”

Its not about politics or vaccines. Its about treating sick people!! Let us treat the sick.
6:31 PM · Sep 3, 2021


https://twitter.com/btysonmd/status/1433860282334384130#m

But wait! Maybe if people get early treatment then they won't die. But deaths are needed to keep the fear going, because fear is what keeps people submitting to the jabs and so keep profits up for Pfizer and Moderna. Therefore early treatment will be stopped by the mafia at the CDC/NIH/FDA.

Profits über alles!

« First        Comments 102 - 141 of 629       Last »     Search these comments

Please register to comment:

api   best comments   contact   latest images   memes   one year ago   random   suggestions   gaiste