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Why I Stopped Hiring Ivy League Graduates


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2021 Jun 15, 9:08am   2,351 views  43 comments

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Even those who aren’t woke seem damaged by the experience, and they’re deprived of role models.

I’m not inclined to hire a graduate from one of America’s elite universities. That marks a change. A decade ago I relished the opportunity to employ talented graduates of Princeton, Yale, Harvard and the rest. Today? Not so much.
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A few years ago a student at an Ivy League school told me, “The first things you learn your freshman year is never to say what you are thinking.” The institution he attended claims to train the world’s future leaders. From what that young man reports, the opposite is true. The school is training future self-censors, which means future followers.

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21   Ceffer   2023 Oct 25, 10:18am  

keeprubbersidedown says

I hired two Harvard MBAs in LA. Absolutely zero entrepreneurial spirit. One had even been a previous CEO of a large company. Top dollar and no increase in business.

They didn't even use the operation for money laundering, dope dealing, prostitution and back room gambling, and then burn it down for insurance money? How disappointing.
22   SunnyvaleCA   2023 Oct 25, 10:50am  

Blue says

Once I interviewed few Ivies with CS major for coding monkey positions. She claims...

A CS study teaches many of the building-block concepts of writing code (we hope), but that is just the beginning of what is needed. As a simple example, a CS major surely knows how to make a function call using a high-level language, but hasn't learned the 2000 functions available to be able to figure out which function to call! As James Damore famously got fired from Google for mentioning, women generally aren't super-duper interested in learning all the nitty gritty needed in writing production-level code.
23   SunnyvaleCA   2023 Oct 25, 10:58am  

Ceffer says

Every time your Ivy League employee fucks up, he shows you his SAT scores from high school, puts his feet up on the desk, and tells you "'nuff said". It's infuriating.

The math SAT is now just a collection of basic questions from standard math curriculum. It used to be somewhat of an intelligence test. So a high score there indicates competence in basic mathematics preceding calculus, not that you are particularly smart or capable of adapting your brain to ideas you haven't seen before.

With affirmative action and seeking of very-high-paying (and sometimes very-high-cheating) foreign students, the number of brilliant students in the top schools has slipped significantly. If you stick to only hiring caucasians and asians from poor and non-powerful family backgrounds, can still do very well.
24   SunnyvaleCA   2023 Oct 25, 11:10am  

gabbar says

2. Will demand for computer science graduates remain stable for the next several years or will supply exceed demand (outsourcing being an issue)? Any comments about cybersecurity, data science, AI, cloud software, block chain....other emerging technologies?

Specialization in cybersecurity, data science, AI, etc. is important now even at the undergraduate level. Master a specialization and then find a job opening that requires that knowledge. That could mean moving clear across the country to silicon valley (if you're not here already). Choose the area that seems the most interesting, because at least then learning that specific information won't seem like such drudgery.
25   Ceffer   2023 Oct 25, 11:16am  

Ivies have withdrawn into their core castle keeps of educating the wealthy, connected, privileged, or Intel assets internally in a separate experience while throwing the plebeian layer to the dogs of killer vaxes and political correctness (except for non-questioning technocrats who will toe the KommieKunt line and receive their technocracy servant education).

Isn't it delightful that the mafias with their printing press fiat bucks have turned the Ivies into shuddering, weeping, kneeling, cock sucking galley slaves for their pleasures?
26   SunnyvaleCA   2023 Oct 25, 12:19pm  

Ceffer says

educating the wealthy, connected, privileged

That was certainly the case 100 years ago. However, the schools have embraced affirmative action and wokeness. Having the magic skin color or the right sexual deviancy will put you ahead of the smart and industrious. Hiring needs to exclude the former and grab the latter.
27   Ceffer   2023 Oct 25, 12:26pm  

I imagine just like in the KommieKunt malignant tyrannies, there are parallel societies attempting to keep the faith in cells in the various Ivies, weathering the storms hoping more halcyon days will return. Good luck with that.
29   Ceffer   2024 Mar 28, 3:44pm  

They aren't gay. Just like Pedo Hollywood, they have to suck cock and take it in the ass these days to get ahead and sidle into the adrenochrome sipping glitterati.
30   richwicks   2024 Mar 28, 4:08pm  

Blue says

Interview ended with wrong answer to how many bits in a byte!


Well, there COULD be 9, if there's parity check. 7 if it was a 1970's mainframe computer. There were a few systems I think from the 1960's that used tristate memory, so it would be 9 there, it had -1, 1, and 0 for logic. I have no idea how more complex logic gates worked in those systems.

A hard question today is how many bytes are in a word? Well, it can be 2, 4, or even 8. And int is defined in C as at least 8 bits, and anything up. The compiler decides. This is why you shouldn't use the C types in code even though everybody does.
31   AD   2024 Mar 28, 6:39pm  

SunnyvaleCA says

The math SAT is now just a collection of basic questions from standard math curriculum.


I remember the reset on the ACT around 1990 and again years later. I was told to add two points to the score before 1990 to get the equivalent score for the new ACT.

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33   Patrick   2024 May 8, 2:37pm  

AD says

I remember the reset on the ACT around 1990 and again years later. I was told to add two points to the score before 1990 to get the equivalent score for the new ACT.


Points are a deliberate obfuscation. All that matters is percentile ranking, which is objective.
35   AD   2024 Aug 25, 12:07pm  

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given someone is an Ivy League grad, then there is a 90% chance they are left wing

out of that 90%, there is a 90% chance they are SS (self aggrandizing and smug)

so there is an 89% you will regret hiring them or associating in anyway with them (90% x 90%)

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36   Tenpoundbass   2024 Aug 25, 12:53pm  

I did electrical work for an Ivy League graduate weeks back. He's opening a Jamaican meat patty joint.
We were talking about Science and Physics and he had to ask Google AI and spat it out verbatim as the screen was scrolling.
Would not, could not articulate his own understanding of the subject and would not allow any deviation, theory of even acknowledge the competing theories that academia voted out in favor of their standard. It makes for very one dimensional, shallow intellectuals. That if they forget the course material verbatim, they are lost for words and has to consult Google AI. He was even worse at talking politics and finances.
Of course he being the paying customer, and I don't just talk about these subjects with people to argue with them, but to see where their head is at. So I just shook my head yes and agreed with what ever Google told him. But in my mind, I was not impressed with the Ivy league mind they produced.
I'm used to people who will tell you the consensus bread and butter answers, has their own points of view, and can articulate why you're theory or opinion is wrong, rather than someone who is out to protect the institution.

He reminded me of Neil deGrasse Tyson, full of shit in a way.
37   Ceffer   2024 Aug 25, 1:07pm  

The stunted science 'intellectuals' are nonetheless verbose and well funded are 'brick wall science' agitprop repeating stations. They are a combination of agog true believer, ayatollahs of falseness or short visions, and victims elevated with privileges that they don't want to lose, so they become screamers and enforcers.

The universities are Matryoshka Doll, with most of the dolls being dams holding historical and scientific disinformation. A small, select, secretive internal group are the magicians who are allowed into the hallowed dynastic halls of true information.

What we believe about history is wrong, and what they present as 'science' are various tenable brick walls that are designed to dissuade from peeking behind their phalanxes and curtains.

There are advanced sciences, cosmology, and physics heralded from distant history that they just don't want the public to know about, mainly because political and economic dominance would be overturned. Closest thing to truth they flog is various types of pragmatic engineering, which tends to be non denominational and a basis of economies.

Best you can hope for from the Ivies most of the time are ambitious, multi tasking bureaucrats of the disinformation (pre prepared, sold and packaged souls as obedient functionaries). You'll never see or hear from the black project guys.
39   HeadSet   2024 Dec 20, 5:43am  

Patrick says





"Do the right thing" means "do the right think for typical Ivy League grads," so it makes sense for them to answer that way.
40   WookieMan   2024 Dec 20, 6:13am  

Tenpoundbass says

He reminded me of Neil deGrasse Tyson, full of shit in a way.

Older comment but fuck that guy. I think the guy is legit unintelligent. Like dumb. A fake. He's black.

~13% of the population is black. The odds of him being intelligent are probably 1 in 1,000 amongst their race. There are blacks that can get things done, but science generally is not it. I know a tree removal black guy. Dumb as shit. But he can safely climb a tree and cut it down safely. Gets paid very well too. I consider that smart even though I dislike him and he brings up politics and has no clue what he's talking about. I've had to pull the phone out and show him he's wrong and he still doesn't believe it.

Blacks feel entitled that they're not wrong. Otherwise it's racism. When challenged on basics they're hyper defensive. Trying to get the last of it out of my nephew. His mom is the problem, but we are fine with her seeing him and talking to him, but she's toxic. Ghetto white. Blames everyone else for her problems and why she can't raise him. Someone else's fault. I hate the blame mentality. Be better.
41   AmericanKulak   2024 Dec 20, 11:29am  

WookieMan says

Older comment but fuck that guy. I think the guy is legit unintelligent. Like dumb. A fake. He's black.

I don't think he's unintelligent. He's smart enough to ask questions and introduce laypeople to physics.

HOWEVER, he did get MeToo'd and forced to start pushing Wokeshit.
42   WookieMan   2024 Dec 20, 12:02pm  

AmericanKulak says

I don't think he's unintelligent. He's smart enough to ask questions and introduce laypeople to physics.

He is. I'll take time at some point and post video of him being called on his shit. He seriously isn't intelligent. He's a con. He uses blackness and can fake talk his way through shit acting like he smart.

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