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2021 Jun 27, 12:34pm   5,447 views  40 comments

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I’ve been posting a lot on social media in threads created by Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Ben Shapiro, and Dennis Prager. More than in the past, a lot of posters are leftists posting snarky comments, very heavily so about Critical Race Theory. They have to be taking their talking points from somewhere. Is it really just Msnbheehaw and propaganda sites like now this?

Thus far only one out of about 30 has been reasonable and even he is using the more advanced but standard leftist tactic of mischaracterizing what I say by rewording and throwing a question back at me.

Among the claims(all false).

1.) No one teaches CRT except Harvard graduate school.

This one is preposterously false. https://kirwaninstitute.osu.edu/

The Kirwan institute has developed “implicit bias” training for business as well as grade school. I had to take it at work. Essentially the core presumption is that everyone has built in biases they are unaware of and specific actions should be taken to ensure those biases don’t result in action.

Furthermore, there would be no protests at school board meetings if CRT wasn’t being considered. But there’s protests all over the country over this. Clearly CRT instruction is at minimum being considered.

2.) “you don’t know what CRT is”

Again laughable when a internet search gives you an answer within seconds. And why would Wikipedia have had to scrub and change their definition if there weren’t people actively reviewing it and citing it as a source to be critiqued?

3.) CRT isn’t being federally funded.

Again laughable. Fed money goes into universities directly and also indirectly via college loan funding.

4.) CRT is necessary because of the US history of racism that is ignored.

Now we get to Bill Mahers comments about millenials thinking past history doesn’t matter. History of racism in the US has been taught in grade school via history and social studies ciriculum since I was in school in the early 1980’s. This included through the civil rights movement in history classes, and the economic and social disparities through the 70’s in social studies classes. This is the part I find miserably appalling…that millenials think somehow racial history in the US is a new thing. Apparently no one is touting my statement that Gen X is the best friend black Americans have ever had. My silent generation parents were very young adults during the civil rights movement and taught me the words of Martin Luther King at a young age…to judge others by who they are, not what they are.

So who is giving these guys these talking points? And why can’t they think critically for just a moment and realize how crummy these talking points are? Especially being from the “party of science” and presumably logic and reason?

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1   Shaman   2021 Jun 27, 1:39pm  

I think they’re mostly Chinese shills. With a few university grievance studies majors tossed in for good measure. It’s utterly pointless to argue with them because they’re fundamentally dishonest about their reasons for holding these beliefs… if indeed they even hold them.
2   Booger   2021 Jun 27, 2:00pm  

Soros and Obama.
3   AmericanKulak   2021 Jun 27, 2:18pm  

Thanks for this post @FuckTheMainstreamMedia

I had an argument the other day that went:

1. Critical thinking = Critical Race Theory (LOL - My response: Critical Race and Critical Thinking are the same as a spoiler on a car, vs. a spoiler to a moive)
2. Critical Race Theory = Just Racism Education (it isn't, it's a Marxian project, an offshoot of Critical Theory - see below image)
3.. Critical Race Theory is for Law Students (therefore not a viable K-12 subject is a winning response)

I found this snippet from the Stanford Philosophy website very useful:

Since they ask for "Proof" about the origin of CRT
4   AmericanKulak   2021 Jun 27, 2:22pm  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
So who is giving these guys these talking points? And why can’t they think critically for just a moment and realize how crummy these talking points are? Especially being from the “party of science” and presumably logic and reason?


This. There was a delay of about 20 minutes when some account I was arguing with did the whole "Critical Thinking = Critical Race Theory". I mentioned Horkheimer, and he flounced for about 20 minutes, and came back on a whole new tack.

I got the whole "Indian IT Department" vibe, that he asked a supervisor for help who gave him a new script on the internal wiki or something.
5   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2021 Jun 27, 3:55pm  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
So who is giving these guys these talking points? And why can’t they think critically for just a moment and realize how crummy these talking points are? Especially being from the “party of science” and presumably logic and reason?


This. There was a delay of about 20 minutes when some account I was arguing with did the whole "Critical Thinking = Critical Race Theory". I mentioned Horkheimer, and he flounced for about 20 minutes, and came back on a whole new tack.

I got the whole "Indian IT Department" vibe, that he asked a supervisor for help who gave him a new script on the internal wiki or something.


I’m fairly certain that’s at least part of it. I wonder if we at some point find China or someone else is paying people to post on the Internet…it’s happened before and I suspect a few of our prominent leftist posters in the past were a part of this.

It’s exploded on both Ben Shapiro’s Facebook feed and No safe Spaces feed the past few weeks.
6   richwicks   2021 Jun 27, 4:10pm  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
I’m fairly certain that’s at least part of it. I wonder if we at some point find China or someone else is paying people to post on the Internet…


People are definitely paid to post on the Internet.

The reason that there is a push for censorship, is that authentic people are outweighing the propagandists and people are getting more educated, not less.

In 2008, I would have argued with your ENDLESSLY if you said that Obama was worse than Bush Jr. I would have pointed out that Bush lied us into a war (he did) that Halliburton got disgusting wealthy from that war (they did), that by lying us into a war the moral reputation of the US was ruined (it was), and that Obama - regardless of whatever his faults, at least wasn't a Neocon.

But Obama was a Neocon. He lied us into Syria and Libya. He did nothing for the United States other than to drag it into new wars. He pushed common core which was an is a disaster, he divided the nation over trivialities like transgendered bathrooms which nobody gives a shit about really.

So I hate them both, but the propagandists, they only hate ONE - this is to give you an illusion that there's any difference between the parties. The fact that so many people have become aware of this is why Trump was elected, twice.

In 2010 if I complained about Obama, I was a "Bush supporter" - even time, and every time I had to explain that Bush was awful but that didn't make Obama good. That sort of thing doesn't happen much any more.
7   GNL   2021 Jun 27, 4:56pm  

Booger says
Soros and Obama.

And the media. If it weren't for the media...

He who controls the message...
8   Ceffer   2021 Jun 27, 5:51pm  

Progressives aren't constrained by morals, ethics, legal boundaries, logic or truth. Their posture is sociopathic and subversive, in that YOUR morals, ethics, legal boundaries, desire for logic and truth can be used against you. They regard such things as weaknesses against raw power.

So, they bob, they weave, they virtue signal, they misconfigure and reconfigure, they treat phony allegations as truth, they engage any and every logical fallacy they can deploy, they set up straw man assertion fallacies, appeals to emotion that they don't actually have, etc. etc.

They will always present you with constantly shifting grounds of emotional posture or logical fallacy that will oppose what you are saying, and try by sheer repetition to make it stick. The guilt trip is such a standard tool, because they assume you suffer from the weakness of guilt while they do not.

Of course, the CRT stuff, predictably, is grossly insulting to all races, almost by psychopathic contemptuous design. It presumes that blacks will always seek the lowest ethical and moral form that will allow them to avoid responsibility for themselves or their actions, activate emotionally driven hostilities, and get some accrued free economic or social benefit in exchange for feigned moral outrage. That assumption in itself is racist and insulting to any of them who would jump on the bandwagon. They're still on the plantation, only it's the KommieKunt plantation.

If you ever dealt with a sociopath, they often lie so compulsively that even when the truth would benefit them, they are so vested in lies and feeling victorious by floating lies, that they continue to lie often to their own disadvantage. The current Globalists are committed to furthering their agendas with pure lies in much the same way. They show contempt for the objects of their aggression by using and promoting lies in a manner that could only be regarded as compulsive.
9   AmericanKulak   2021 Jun 27, 6:51pm  

richwicks says
The reason that there is a push for censorship, is that authentic people are outweighing the propagandists and people are getting more educated, not less.


I think it's the real reason comments have disappeared from scores of news sites and were all relegated to a handful of social media spots that can be controlled/patrolled by Bots.

Even on the Guardian, there was a firm counter narrative on a lot of bullshit from Feminism to Russia Russia Russia, but then something happened with their Trust, they brought on a couple of HuffoPo Editorial Type Bimbos from the US, and almost all "Comment is Free" disappeared. Yahoo! used to allow comments routinely, now it's only selective on certain articles.

It's march harder to have an army of bots deployed on everything from Yahoo! to Miami Herald to your local ABC Affiliate, so you concentrate the herd in a few Social Media pens thereby needing less resources to control them all.

I've also noticed they operate in groups of 2-5. There's typically an emotional "Low Info" type, that simply spews NPC slogans, but if replied to, the aforementioned "Indian Boiler Room" actor shows up, sometimes up to 4 (for a total of 5, inc. the original NPC type).

Another thing: Old accounts, some going back to 2012 or even 2009, only a few hundred followers in only a decade, following mostly Mainstream Accounts, yet they are somehow able to get "Friends" to jump in within minutes of a post.
10   Ceffer   2021 Jun 27, 7:30pm  

Yeah, it's pretty clear on ATS the bots and boiler room NPCs have hijacked older, inactive identities to spew the propaganda line. Heck, it's happened here a few times.

The flack attacks kind of pulse, sometimes they are all over it, other times not around so much and it is more standard repertoire. Maybe it depends on what time of month the NPCs receive their retainer checks and use them up, then go dead until the next check to use up.
11   Patrick   2021 Jun 27, 11:12pm  

Shaman says
I think they’re mostly Chinese shills.


If they are, it's good to reply to them with:

50美分军队

(50 cent army)

https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/who-are-chinese-trolls-50-cent-army

Also, if they're from the CCP at all, this should freak them out:

1989年6月4日天安门广场大屠杀

(June 4, 1989 Tiananmen Square Massacre)
13   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2021 Jul 4, 11:11pm  

Would you look at this shit…..

https://www.foxnews.com/us/largest-teachers-union-critical-race-theory-reasonable-and-appropriate?cmpid=fb_fnc&fbclid=IwAR22qPEWk37B1lRoDmKdcTsbd3WVwTfw8pbQhXdeXQ-OduS0_rFlNSNmWAs



The National Education Association has approved a plan to "publicize" critical race theory and dedicate a "team of staffers" to assist union members looking to "fight back against anti-CRT rhetoric."

New Business Item 39 also declares that the union opposes bans on critical race theory and the New York Times’ controversial 1619 Project – which roughly half the U.S. states have already implemented.


After seeing this garbage, I think tactics will change on my part. Time to call a spade a spade and start calling out liars when they blatantly spew falsehoods.
14   SumatraBosch   2021 Jul 5, 5:42am  

Michelle Obama invented CRT to give everyone an excuse to shoot white people in the face.

CRT = white genocide
15   Ceffer   2021 Jul 5, 6:50am  

"Abandon you guns, your thoughts, and your survival instincts and trust us because we virtue signal."
16   Hircus   2021 Jul 5, 8:48pm  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
So who is giving these guys these talking points?


I forget who, but maybe 2-3 years back I think someone (maybe famous, like Miley Cyrus or Taylor Swift or something) posted a screenshot of some email they got from some leftist organization who emailed them a list of leftist talking points that seemed in sync with current events and narrative. So, my point is they do organize, and they reach out to influential people and likely spend significant effort turning the person into an asset, and arming them with propaganda.
17   AmericanKulak   2021 Jul 5, 9:16pm  

Hircus says
I forget who, but maybe 2-3 years back I think someone (maybe famous, like Miley Cyrus or Taylor Swift or something) posted a screenshot of some email they got from some leftist organization who emailed them a list of leftist talking points that seemed in sync with current events and narrative. So, my point is they do organize, and they reach out to influential people and likely spend significant effort turning the person into an asset, and arming them with propaganda.

18   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2021 Jul 7, 9:28am  

And just like that literally no one arguing with me on social media. Damn I’m making good points, absolutely loaded for bear if anyone attempts to argue…and utter crickets.

Fucking Chinese bots.
19   Bd6r   2021 Jul 7, 10:45am  

Arguing on social media, or even having accounts there, makes money for ZuckFucks et. al. I don't see why any conservative would be on Twatter, facesucker, youtube etc, other than having Stockholm syndrome.
20   richwicks   2021 Jul 7, 11:55am  

Rb6d says
youtube etc,


I confess I still have an account on youtube. I'd say it's enemy territory, but when I'm there, I'm just to point out why I think somebody is wrong, and to encourage people to move and explore other video sites.

Go to Jimmy Dore's channel and read the comments.

It's fine that Facebook is an echo chamber, and Twatter has always been entirely useless. Youtube isn't, quite yet. It's much more worthless than it used to be though.
21   Bd6r   2021 Jul 7, 12:35pm  

richwicks says
I confess I still have an account on youtube. I'd say it's enemy territory, but when I'm there, I'm just to point out why I think somebody is wrong, and to encourage people to move and explore other video sites.

Go to Jimmy Dore's channel and read the comments.

It's fine that Facebook is an echo chamber, and Twatter has always been entirely useless. Youtube isn't, quite yet. It's much more worthless than it used to be though.

I don't have a youtube account, although I occasionally watch it on Brave so they would not earn money. I never had twatter or facebook accounts. I still have gmail, but I am transitioning to protonmail and in a year I will have severed my last connection with google.
I don't think that we can change anyone's mind by arguing in comment sections. Perhaps argument in person may work, but even then it takes time and huge effort, and person whom you argue with trusting you.
22   AmericanKulak   2021 Jul 7, 12:37pm  



Don't think for a minute Tweeter doesn't know about these Chinese Bots - and is in it with them.
23   Bd6r   2021 Jul 7, 12:41pm  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
Don't think for a minute Tweeter doesn't know about these Chinese Bots - and is in it with them.

they likely get paid by Chinese
24   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2021 Jul 7, 3:03pm  

richwicks says
Rb6d says
youtube etc,


I confess I still have an account on youtube. I'd say it's enemy territory, but when I'm there, I'm just to point out why I think somebody is wrong, and to encourage people to move and explore other video sites.

Go to Jimmy Dore's channel and read the comments.

It's fine that Facebook is an echo chamber, and Twatter has always been entirely useless. Youtube isn't, quite yet. It's much more worthless than it used to be though.


For me it’s music and sports card collecting. That stuff doesn’t exist in reasonable quantities anywhere else.
26   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2021 Jul 7, 3:26pm  

Bill Gates funded the @math is racist@ thing. Equitablemath.com I think is his funded replacement.

Jeff Bezos finds some other shit Candace Owens mentioned recently. Behind all these movements is a rich fucking guy somewhere.
27   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2021 Jul 7, 3:28pm  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
Furthermore, there would be no protests at school board meetings if CRT wasn’t being considered. But there’s protests all over the country over this. Clearly CRT instruction is at minimum being considered.


It’s in the classrooms already, at least in California. BHM and WHM was just straight up “fuck white men” months.
28   SumatraBosch   2021 Jul 7, 7:37pm  

Michelle Obama.

She orders them to carry her hibachi from house to house to cook the white babies she loves to eat.
29   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2021 Jul 7, 8:01pm  

SumatraBosch says
Michelle Obama.

She orders them to carry her hibachi from house to house to cook the white babies she loves to eat.


I mean, would this really surprise anyone?
30   Robert Sproul   2021 Jul 7, 8:04pm  

I don't know about "directing" but I'll tell you who is excited to be on board is $$$BIG$$$MONEY$$$.

“BlackRock Inc., the world’s largest asset manager [And largest institutional investor in most fortune 500 companies, called the 4th branch of government by Bloomberg News], plans to next year push companies for greater ethnic and gender diversity for their boards and workforces, and says it will vote against directors who fail to act.”
“The money manager, which oversees more than $7.8 trillion of assets, is asking U.S. companies to disclose the racial, ethnic and gender makeup of their employees -- data known as EEO-1 -- as well as measures they’re taking to advance diversity and inclusion, according to a stewardship report released Thursday.
BlackRock said it plans to ask companies about their plans for the transition to a low-carbon economy, information about their political lobbying, and the impacts their businesses have on key stakeholders.[Stakeholders matter now, not shareholders]”
https://archive.fo/o5q85
31   Patrick   2021 Jul 11, 4:52pm  

Robert Sproul says
says it will vote against directors who fail to act


Even if they are managing $7.8 trillion, where do they get the right to vote in corporate elections? I get a request to vote my "proxy" for each stock I own. (Why is it called a proxy, btw?)

Maybe mutual funds give that voting right to fund managers.
32   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2022 Jan 11, 7:28am  

And just like that, complete fucking crickets. Not Jack shot about CRT in the news. I mean, this shit switched on a fucking dime.

I guess the DNC found out it’s not a good topic for the elections.
33   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Jan 11, 11:57am  

Money to schools with strings attached
34   AmericanKulak   2022 Jul 1, 10:40pm  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

And just like that, complete fucking crickets. Not Jack shot about CRT in the news. I mean, this shit switched on a fucking dime.

I guess the DNC found out it’s not a good topic for the elections.


Rufo: ... The GOP then adopted a smart frame — “parental rights,” “the parents’ party” — that created a set of policies and connotations that is very appealing to families. In the most recent generic ballot polling, parents with children in the home support Republicans by a 28-point margin. This is a political sea change. It drove the success of Glenn Youngkin and school choice initiatives across the country. The impact is undeniable.

Daniel Miller: One of the persistent issues faced by opposition activists is the problem of defining the contemporary regime. You’ve successfully popularized the term Critical Race Theory to characterize the current regime ideology, but how do you see the relationship between this ideology and the big corporate and political forces promoting it? Do you view them as motivated by sincere ideological commitments?
Christopher Rufo: There are the true believers, but for most people, it is a rationalization. The executives at Xerox and Walmart are not sincerely committed to CRT, but the entire incentive structure that surrounds them creates an enormous pressure to adopt these beliefs, at least as status markers or reputational insurance policies. It is much easier to bend the knee for George Floyd and write a $10 million check to BLM than to say “no.”

For conservatives, we have to realize that the game is not to debate the epiphenomenon of ideology, but to relentlessly unearth, attack and dislodge the broader structural phenomenon that underpins it. This means attacking it on moral, aesthetic, financial, legal, and bureaucratic grounds, in addition to the more straightforward style of intellectual debate. Governor DeSantis understands this better than anyone. He demonstrated in his fight against Disney that conservatives have leverage against corporate power, as long as they are willing to use it. The trick is to replicate that strategy across multiple domains and to shift incentives by changing the law.

https://im1776.com/2022/07/01/christopher-rufo-interview/
35   Booger   2022 Jul 2, 3:21am  

Obama is controlling Biden.
36   richwicks   2022 Jul 2, 7:30am  

Booger says


Obama is controlling Biden.


No he isn't. Obama and Biden just have the same puppet masters.. George W. Bush did as well. The power above the presidency are the intelligence agencies. Above them, I expect it just the Federal Reserve, but there could be plenty more middlemen of management.

As soon as we gave the ability for the intelligence agencies to spy on ALL digital communications, that's ultimate power. They can blackmail anybody that is worthwhile to blackmail. Even if they find a saint somewhere, is their wife a saint? Their kid? Their brother? Their boss? They don't have to be doing anything illegal, just something that would tarnish them.
37   AmericanKulak   2022 Jul 2, 9:42am  

The Bushes are ancient family, one of the reprobate ones stretching back centuries.

Obamas are connected to the Ayers, same thing. Father is on the Board of Sears and ConEd while his son is making bombs in a Manhattan townhouse Daddy is renting for him? Then they're the #1 grantwriters in Chicago but never meet Community Activist Obama?

Gates' father is on the Board of Planned Parenthood in the PNW?

It's all class interest. The upper crust in the US has always been jealous of the deference shown to the European Ruling Class and wants it here. One of the reasons they want to destroy the middle class. Our upper crust has been talking about eating 'low diets' and Kellogg's type shit for over a century, no different today: "Eat Ze Bugs".

Constant messaging that "American Dream is unsustainable, immoral to the Earth/Everything is made out of Cotton, and frankly, UNDESERVED by those who want it" is no accident.
38   NDrLoR   2022 Jul 2, 10:01am  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says


Money to schools with strings attached
That's what my mother, who taught from 1924 to 1970, warned administration about immediately after World War II when title money began being showered down on school districts--they'll give you money then tell you what to teach. In 1966, the first year of The Great Society programs, all the schools rushed to provide "free" school lunches, except my mother kept it out of her school until she retired.
39   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2022 Dec 10, 9:23am  

It’s now changed to “what do Republicans mean when they say woke?” These fuckers are incorrigible.
40   richwicks   2022 Dec 10, 11:47am  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

It’s now changed to “what do Republicans mean when they say woke?” These fuckers are incorrigible.


There's always two definitions that are contradictory. This prevents the "two groups" (left and right) from being able to talk rationally with one another.

The right considers "woke" to mean to be entirely controlled by the propaganda du jour and engrossed in it. The left considered "woke" to mean what it should mean, completely aware of the situation. Go see what the Urban Dictionary says:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Woke

The first two definitions are entirely contradictory, they are opposites:

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