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Of course, my post wasn't even about that. It was about DCFC profitability.
I think PHEV is the near future vs. fully electric.
money on fuel/electricity if you have to rely exclusively on DCFC. The Tesla Supercharging prices in California are about the same as a gallon of gas. I only use them for pure convenience or on a long road trip. Over 98% of my charging is done at home.
AGAIN...you can't keep on subject.
That has nothing to do with the profitability of DCFC charging stations. Nothing.
WTF are you talking about?
The thread subject is: *Which is more expensive: charging an electric vehicle or fueling a car with gas?*
I am sharing 6 years of personal experience where I am saving over $200 month on fuel driving an EV and charging at home.
socal2 says
WTF are you talking about?
The thread subject is: *Which is more expensive: charging an electric vehicle or fueling a car with gas?*
I am sharing 6 years of personal experience where I am saving over $200 month on fuel driving an EV and charging at home.
Amazing.
HAS been amazing driving my Tesla these past years.
So much power, enjoyment and cost savings!
Should have just given the money to Tesla to continue to build out the Supercharger network.
The challenges for achieving DCFC profitability might be one reason this country’s largest EV manufacturer fired their entire 500 member charging team. Perhaps it was discovered that this division was an important drain on profitability, and why Wall Street does not appear to recognize its robust charging system as an important source of future profitability.
Just like the government should have given Elon Musk money to increase Starlink for rural internet access instead of spending Billions on Fiber Optic.
The_Deplorable says
Yeah - that is absurd.
Should have just given the money to Tesla to continue to build out the Supercharger network.
Just like the government should have given Elon Musk money to increase Starlink for rural internet access instead of spending Billions on Fiber Optic.
https://twitter.com/JesseBWatters/status/1803583502174028210
The challenges for achieving DCFC profitability might be one reason this country’s largest EV manufacturer fired their entire 500 member charging team. Perhaps it was discovered that this division was an important drain on profitability, and why Wall Street does not appear to recognize its robust charging system as an important source of future profitability.
Tesla has never played-up charging revenue from their Supercharger network as anything major in their P&L
I've never had to wait on a charge for a Supercharger site
Which is more expensive: charging an electric vehicle or fueling a car with gas?
I've never had to wait on a charge for a Supercharger site.
I've never had to wait on a charge for a Supercharger site.
Me neither because I drive an ICE car
Most of those 46% who want to switch aren't driving Teslas.
I've never had to wait on a charge for a Supercharger site. The navigation on the screen tells you the number of stalls open in real time. They have plenty of capacity as more EV's (of all brands) hit the road.
PHEV's are twice as complex and super expensive. Why bother with a hybrid when you still have to do all the maintenance on a gas engine, oil changes, transmissions and brakes?
socal2 says
Most of those 46% who want to switch aren't driving Teslas.
So fucking what?
1) This isn't the Tesla Fluffer Thread.
2) You have no proof of that. You just made it up.
Temperate climate so you're not running the AC every time you drive losing milage.
It's also much better looking. Most Teslas to me just look like ugly grocery gitters.
With room left for a burger, fries and coke.
If you're charging at 150 kWh rate (adding 225 miles with half an hour of waiting), it's much slower and your are hurting the battery.
30 minutes at a charger costs me about $150 regardless of the electric even if it's free
Depending on your usage patterns, an electric car that you plug in at night in your garage might save you more time than taking your ICE car to the gas station.
There are no skilled EV mechanics. That will take 20-30 years.
socal2 says
Most of those 46% who want to switch aren't driving Teslas.
So fucking what?
1) This isn't the Tesla Fluffer Thread.
2) You have no proof of that. You just made it up.
Back-of-the-envelope relative costs for where I live (bay area):
If an EV goes 3 miles on 1 kWhr and the cost of a kWhr is 40¢ when charging off-peak, it's costing you 3 / 0.4 = 13¢/mile
If a car goes 30 miles on a gallon of gasoline that costs $4.75 (California pricing!), it's costing you 4.75 / 30 = 16¢/mile
Man - you guys get raped on your electric rates! PG&E doesn't offer any kind of EV plan?
Man - you guys get raped on your electric rates! PG&E doesn't offer any kind of EV plan?
I don't have to wait in a long Costco line to fill up every week either like I do with my wife's car
Taxes are a coming.
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