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Army doctor saw pilots coming in with heart issues after the vaxx


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2021 Nov 2, 3:45pm   36,706 views  211 comments

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https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/covid-vaccines-and-army-troops


covid vaccines and army troops
mandate vaccines then suppress bad outcomes for those who take them?

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this is an army doctor. she saw pilots. when they started coming in with heart issues and other serious complaints from the covid vaccines, complaints so serious they could not fly or function normally, she reported this up the chain. (video playable)

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NOW - U.S. Army Brigade Surgeon says "in one morning I had to ground 3 out of 3 pilots due to vaccine injuries" at a panel discussion hosted by U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson.

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their response: you don’t get to see any more patients with vaccine issues.

these vaccines are being mandated for troops, but the negative effects they cause (in at least some cases) are being suppressed. care to wager this is not widespread? i wouldn’t.

and roughly 20% of the US military remains unvaccinated.

they are being called “vaccine hesitant” and threatened with dishonorable discharges.

but ask yourself this: who wouldn’t be hesitant when they saw behavior like this?

covid vaccines were sold as the way to stop the pandemic.

they are manifest failures in this regard. yet the pushing has only intensified.

covid vaccines were sold as safe.

yet CDC officials, army brass, and medical boards are doing everything they can to suppress and minimize adverse event reporting.

that’s not the action of someone with the science on their side, it’s the prevarication of someone with something to hide.

then they ask why people won’t trust them?

seriously?



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128   The_Deplorable   2023 Jun 28, 10:41am  

- Evidence Proves The FDA Is Involved In a Drug Safety Cover Up

A "Freedom of Information Act" (FOIA) request forced the FDA to release Pfizer documents that show that Pfizer and the FDA knew about 1,223 deaths within 90 days of the Covid-19 Pfizer mRNA vaccine. In other words the FDA (and Pfizer) was involved in a drug safety cover up. In this 32 second video clip Peter McCullough, MD, makes this fact crystal clear. Dr. McCullough says the following - quoting from the clip:

• "There has been unprecedented injuries, disabilities and deaths with these Covid vaccines."
• "Pfizer and the FDA knew about 1,223 deaths within 90 days of their vaccine."
• "The lawyer for the FDA wanted to block this information for 55 years."
• "This is... evidence that the FDA is involved in drug safety cover up."
https://www.bitchutmcculloughe.com/video/WS8o9Tpd4uEr/

Note: It looks like this video was deleted!

Question: If so, why?

Will it change the fact that the FDA is involved in drug safety cover up?
129   The_Deplorable   2023 Jun 30, 4:04pm  

The_Deplorable says
"[Commercial airline] pilots, mechanics were... mandated to receive the toxic mRNA Covid-19 vaccine! In other words the Globalists wiped out the commercial Airline industry!... This pilot shortage was caused by the toxin in the Covid-19 mRNA vaccine and the Globalist effort to force all Americans to get vaccinated. Last July 4th weekend we had 29,000 flight cancellations..."

So far this 4th of July weekend we had 7,000 cancellations and we have another 5 days until July 4, 2023.

"Fourth of July flight delays, cancellations add to summer travel woes... Travelers across the country are left frustrated as over 35,000 flight delays and 7,000 cancellations have plagued the airline industry since Saturday... https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/fourth-july-flight-delays-cancellations-135837499.html
130   WookieMan   2023 Jun 30, 4:33pm  

The_Deplorable says

Boomers retiring has nothing to do with the pilot shortage. Military pilots still become commercial airline pilots after they retire - like they always did. That did not change.

There's a shortage of military pilots. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/patriotism-unity/with-war-potentially-approaching-a-pilot-shortage-looms-over-the-us-air-force

You're talking out of your ass dude. https://www.lgraham.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2023/3/graham-senators-reintroduce-bill-to-address-pilot-shortage

There's NOT enough incoming pilots to REPLACE those leaving. Read the links. It has little to nothing to do with the vaccine. This was years in the making. The aviation industry whether it be military or colleges didn't recruit enough. I only know one kid under 30 flying a plane right now. That's easily 0.01% of my network. 90% of the pilots now were flying by age 20-25. Young men aren't flying.

If the military is struggling to get new ones you know damn well aviation schools/colleges are struggling. The vaccine side effect "might" be 1 in 800-1k people. That's not going to shut down the industry like what's going on. It's a demographic shift. Blaming it on the vaccine is lazy. And NO, I didn't and won't take it. This isn't a defense of it. I'm looking at data. You're looking at overall data and correlating it to pilots. It doesn't make sense. 200-500 pilots being sick doesn't ground the entire aviation system.
131   RWSGFY   2023 Jun 30, 4:58pm  

The shortage will continue until the industry pulls their head out of their ass and start treating young low-hours pilots better. It costs about $75-100K to get that ATP license and then you go and endure 4-5 years of literally minimum wage earnings (if not worse) while working weird hours and commuting god-knows-how far while not being paid. And it's not like it ramps up fast even after that initial period. Fuck that noise.
132   The_Deplorable   2023 Jun 30, 5:59pm  

WookieMan says

"There's a shortage of military pilots. You're talking out of your ass dude. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/patriotism-unity/with-war-potentially-approaching-a-pilot-shortage-looms-over-the-us-air-force "

Heh... The link you provided WookieMan contradicts you! It says:

"The Air Force’s array of 48 fighter squadrons and nine attack squadrons are today being asked to do the work of 60 squadrons, the head of Air Combat Command said recently."

In other words the number of pilots and planes needs to increase to meet the needs of today's military and has not increased because the Globalist traitors are too busy stealing the money needed for such an expansion! Or did they send the money to Ukraine?

Have a nice day!
134   The_Deplorable   2023 Jul 24, 1:39pm  

House Rejects Reinstatement Of Pilots, Fired For Refusing COVID Vaccine

On Thursday, the House of Representatives rejected a bill by Rep. Sam Graves (R-Mo.) - in a 294-141 vote - that "would have allowed pilots fired for refusing to comply with President Joe Biden’s vaccine mandate to return to their jobs." https://fism.tv/house-votes-not-to-reinstate-pilots-let-go-over-covid-vaccine/

In other words, Joe Biden and his neoCon Globalists are trying to destroy the US economy. Is there any other explanation?

Recall that the remaining pilots, flight attendants, mechanics etc who were vaccinated with the toxin mRNA Covid vaccines are either dead or injured from the vaccines. During the July 4 weekend of 2022, airlines cancelled 29,000 flights - and thousands more since then. This year they are not reporting the number of cancelled flights because if they ignore the problem, then the problem will go away!

And the persistent shortage of pilots continues unabated.

Heh... Most important, the Globalist attempt to force all of us to get vaccinated with health passports failed from the get-go.
135   stfu   2023 Jul 24, 3:24pm  

Interesting the Pfizer owns 83 Republican congress members too.
136   The_Deplorable   2023 Jul 24, 3:39pm  

stfu says
"Interesting the Pfizer owns 83 Republican congress members too."

That is why, We The People, The_Deplorables, call Republicans and Democrats, the Uniparty. There is no difference between the two and that is why our country is going from bad to worse.
137   The_Deplorable   2023 Jul 24, 7:40pm  

"House lawmakers on Thursday rejected an amendment that would have required airlines to reinstate pilots who were fired or stepped down because of vaccine mandates. The amendment to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) reauthorization bill, introduced by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga... failed 141-298 after 83 Republicans voted with Democrats against it." https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/83-republicans-vote-against-bill-reinstate-pilots-fired-refusing-covid-19-vaccine

The FAA had no business mandating untested and experimental mRNA vaccines to pilots, flight attendants and mechanics. These vaccine mandates are crimes against humanity and a violation of the The Nuremberg Code.

And keep in mind the following groups were exempted from getting the Covid-19 toxin shots...

1. All of Congress and all congressional staff, House and the Senate.
2. 6,000 White House employees.
3. 2,500 Pfizer employees.
4. 1,500 Monderna employees
5. 120,000 Johnson & Johnson employees.
6. 15,000 CDC employees.
7. 14,000 FDA employees...

See

original link
About 1:30 minutes long.
138   GNL   2023 Jul 24, 7:57pm  

The entire us mail service was exempted also, correct?
139   The_Deplorable   2023 Jul 24, 10:30pm  

GNL says
"The entire us mail service was exempted also, correct?"

No. The US Mail service was mandated by OSHA to vaccinate. But the US Supreme Court Released the USPS From a Vaccine Mandate in January 2022.

"The Supreme Court struck down the Biden administration’s vaccine mandate that would have required large businesses with 100 or more employees to require their employees to be vaccinated or undergo weekly COVID testing and wear masks when at work. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) was the federal agency that imposed the vaccine mandate... The Supreme Court struck it down because it concluded that the law which created OSHA "empowers the Secretary [of Labor] to set workplace safety standards, not broad public health measures." https://www.fedsmith.com/2022/01/13/supreme-court-releases-usps-from-vaccine-mandate/

But given the severe shortage of postal workers we have today, it looks like many postal workers are dead or injured from the Covid vaccine.
140   Patrick   2023 Jul 29, 2:44pm  

https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/covid-19-vaccine-induced-cardiac


I had the chance to catch up with pilot Bob Snow at the “Restoring Hope” event hosted by React19 in Conroe, Texas, on July 22, 2023. He told me first hand of his harrowing story of suffering a cardiac arrest on the jetway after completing an American Airlines flight and landing at DFW airport. He had the incredibly good fortune of getting prompt expert defibrillation and resuscitation by paramedics who happened to be on scene for a medical issue at the gate next door. He required three shocks, intubation, and full ACLS protocol. I can tell you if EMTs were not already in the airport, almost certainly Snow would have died and this event would never have come to light. He did the right thing and told America what happened from his hospital room.

Forced to take the Janssen COVID-19 vaccine against his wishes November 7, 2021, Snow began to have chest symptoms including pain, and a vibratory sensation with certain movements such as adjusting overhead panels in the cockpit. There were also gastro-intestinal symptoms. These were signs something was wrong and Snow knew it. He sought medical help with specialists but nothing localized to the heart.

On April 9, 2022, American Airlines Captain Robert Snow experienced a cardiac arrest which he describes as “lights out” inside the cockpit of Airbus 321 carrying nearly two hundred souls; the event took place at the gate six minutes after landing. He was transported to a local hospital and had excellent care. A coronary angiogram showed no blockages. An MRI did not find myocarditis. Genetic testing was negative. The only smoking gun was the COVID-19 vaccine which has been shown (Abrich and Olshansky) to cause cardiac arrest even in the absence of myocarditis or myocardial infarction. ...

A recent Twitter survey indicated 98.3% of likely travelers prefer unvaccinated pilots. This was following on a story where some airlines are still financially penalizing pilots for deferring COVID-19 vaccination.
142   Patrick   2023 Aug 16, 9:21am  

https://twitter.com/MakisMD/status/1691699040118083985


@MakisMD
BREAKING NEWS: PILOT has died Inflight

Aug.14, 2023 - LATAM Airlines Flight LA505 (MIA-SCL) Miami to Santiago, Chile - 2 hours into 8hr flight, captain collapsed and died in the lavatory - plane diverted to Panama City - 3rd pilot collapse THIS WEEK!

56 year old captain pilot went into the washroom in the 2nd hour of the flight, saying he felt unwell.

Noticing that the captain had fallen in the sink, the cabin crew intervened with first aid, but the captain could not be revived.

There were 3 pilots on the plane, the remaining two diverted the plane and landed safely in Panama City, Panama, 28 minutes after pilot collapse, at 12:36AM EDT, Aug.15, 2023.

Captain was pronounced dead upon arrival.

Aircraft is still on the ground in Panama City 12 hours after landing.

This is the 3rd pilot incapacitation this week, 1st fatal.

NEW ARTICLE: Article link in photo to avoid shadowban, just re-type URL in your browser - has all pilot incapacitations documented since March 2023
144   Patrick   2023 Aug 16, 7:04pm  

https://live2fightanotherday.substack.com/p/another-conspiracy-theory-comes-true


Another Conspiracy Theory Comes True: Pilot Dies in Flight
It's still normal, right?


More about flight LA505:


An airline pilot died after collapsing in the bathroom of a Miami to Chile flight with 271 passengers aboard.

Captain Ivan Andaur began feeling unwell three hours into the LATAM Airlines flight from Florida to Santiago and after collapsing in the bathroom he received emergency treatment from the crew, reported Simple Flying.

The flight took thirty minutes to divert to Panama City’s Tocumen International Airport and first responders declared Andaur, a 25-year veteran pilot, dead when the plane landed.

The LA505 flight, which was operating a Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner, left Miami at 10.11pm on Monday 14 August and also had a relief captain and first officer onboard when the incident took place.
145   Patrick   2023 Aug 16, 7:09pm  

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/pilot-who-operated-spicejet-first-flight-dies-on-delhi-doha-flight/articleshow/102780118.cms


Aug 16, 2023

NEW DELHI: A senior pilot — who had operated SpiceJet’s inaugural flight in 2003 and was currently working with Qatar Airways — died while flying as a passenger from Delhi to Doha on Wednesday morning. The Qatar Airways flight, QR 579, diverted to Dubai due to the medical emergency when the pilot, 51, fell ill onboard. However, he could not be saved.

“The pilot had worked with Alliance Air and spent 17 years in SpiceJet. He had operated SpiceJet’s first flight, Delhi-Ahmedabad, on May 23, 2005. Last year he had joined Qatar Airways where he was flying the Boeing 777,” SpiceJet sources said.

A long time colleague said, “He was very fit and his untimely demise has come as a big shock for everyone who knew him.”
146   Ceffer   2023 Aug 16, 10:16pm  

Well, you know the vets are just a sunk cost for the government that they would like to minimize on an ongoing basis. Vaxicide still has its purposes in specialty applications for the Government.

Old people are the best to vaxicide because nobody questions deaths in the aging populations, and they save helluva money in medical costs.
147   HeadSet   2023 Aug 17, 7:28am  

Ceffer says

Old people are the best to vaxicide because nobody questions deaths in the aging populations, and they save helluva money in medical costs.

And pensions.
148   Patrick   2023 Aug 18, 12:56pm  

https://zeenews.india.com/aviation/indigo-pilot-dies-at-nagpur-airports-boarding-gate-moments-before-flying-plane-2650171.html


IndiGo Pilot Dies At Nagpur Airport's Boarding Gate Moments Before Flying Plane

The death of the IndiGo pilot at Nagpur Airport is the second such incident involving an Indian pilot in two days after a Qatar Airways pilot suffered heart attack onboard a flight yesterday.

Aug 17, 2023

An IndiGo pilot died moments before flying an aircraft from the Nagpur Airport on Thursday, officials said. The 40-year-old pilot collapsed near a boarding gate at the Nagpur airport and was going to operate the airline's Nagpur-Pune flight. Prima facie, he died due to "sudden cardiac arrest", said KIMS-Kingsway Hospital where he was rushed, reported PTI. Aejaz Shami, spokesperson of the hospital, said the emergency team of the hospital gave him CPR but he did not respond.
149   Patrick   2023 Aug 21, 3:24pm  

https://drpanda.substack.com/p/crisis-in-the-cockpit-three-airline


Crisis in the Cockpit: Three Airline Pilots 'Die Suddenly' in a Week!
Five cases of cardiac arrest among pilots this month! Four of them mid-flight.
150   Patrick   2023 Aug 24, 10:57am  

https://trmlx.com/student-pilot-goes-into-cardiac-arrest-behind-controls-of-helicopter/


STUDENT AT FORT NOVOSEL GOES INTO CARDIAC ARREST IN THE COCKPIT | INVESTIGATION WON’T TAKE PLACE

A student in flight school at Fort Novosel (formerly Fort Rucker) went into cardiac arrest while he was behind the controls in midflight, and the various messages I’m getting from students, instructors and other senior members within the chain of command paint the same picture with different conclusions. ...

I think we all have the same suspicions. If you’ve been living on planet earth in the last two years and aren’t aware of the abnormal amount of young Americans dropping dead, then you’re one of the fortunate ones who’s managed to insulate themselves from literally every external media source available. You may still be in denial about it being attributed to the COVID vaccine, and you may even be stupid enough to pin it on climate change, but you’re aware that deaths are increasing nonetheless.


152   The_Deplorable   2023 Aug 27, 6:09pm  

Misc says
"Pilots collecting disability benefits from the government, but flying for major airlines ???? - Shocking"

Yes. Pilots with disabilities are flying for major airlines because their disabilities are "minor" compared to airline pilots who were forced to take the mRNA Covid-19 toxin vaccines.

Don't forget, during the 4th of July weekend of 2022, the airlines cancelled 29,000 flights and thousands more since then. This shows that the airlines are facing a very severe pilot shortage. So the airlines lost most of their pilots to vaccine injuries and deaths.

So, their attempt to force We The People to get vaccinated with health passports failed from the get-go!
153   Patrick   2023 Aug 27, 7:38pm  

The_Deplorable says

So the airlines lost most of their pilots to vaccine injuries and deaths.


They lost a lot to the evil mandates for sure.

My flight to Poland was delayed because they could not find enough air traffic controllers in Canada, people who were also forced to submit to the death jab or quit. Our pilot came on during the delay and said he'd been flying for 30 years and never seen anything like it before.
155   Patrick   2023 Sep 16, 8:56pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/three-pivots-saturday-september-16


🛩️ This will shock you, but last week Salon ran a story headlined, “Thanks to staffing troubles at the FAA, an aviation catastrophe is just waiting to happen.”

The gist is there is a sudden and unexpected nationwide shortage of at least 3,000 air traffic controllers (ATC). Salon blamed Ronald Reagan (I am not kidding), but the truth seems to be much more difficult for the narrative. ...

Coincidentally, along with the shortage of air traffic controllers, there is also a pilot shortage. The Senate is currently debating how many flight hours are required to quality as a new pilot, which is holding up the FAA’s reauthorization in the Senate.

What I found when I drilled into the fog of manufactured confusion over the causes, which the various papers claim goes back years and years (such as Salon’s dumb excuse that Ronald Reagan did it), even though we never heard about the problem until now, bottom line is there seems to have been a huge shedding of airline controllers and pilots over the last two years.

For some reason. ...

What remains universally unsaid is what we all know: there is a perfectly obvious reason that a lot of pilots and controllers took early retirement over the last couple years: because they refused to comply with the jab mandates. Buh bye.

Thanks, experts! Gosh, those experts have managed to do a lot of damage, haven’t they? We’re still finding out how much.

What is unknown, but intriguing, is how many more pilots and controllers have been lost due to sudden and unexpected medical reasons. Both jobs often cause bolts of adrenaline, which is a bad indication for subclinical myocarditis. And pilots and controllers are a very small but critical community. Even losing a few to medical problems could make a big difference.

What will President Peters and his awesome transportation secretary Peter Buttigieg do about it? President Reagan fired all the air traffic controllers and still managed to keep the nation’s air system functioning. I don’t mean to be negative, but I somehow doubt we’ll see anything like that from Mr. Buttigeig.
156   stereotomy   2023 Sep 17, 8:39am  

Patrick says

https://drpanda.substack.com/p/crisis-in-the-cockpit-three-airline

Crisis in the Cockpit: Three Airline Pilots 'Die Suddenly' in a Week!
Five cases of cardiac arrest among pilots this month! Four of them mid-flight.

Maybe PUREBLOODS can negotiate a discount for flying school - "I won't die in midflight. And just in case you keel over from your clot shot, I'll be the only one who can get us down safely."

Then again, maybe they want their students to die. This wouldn't be the first time ("higher education" - I'M LOOKING AT YOU).
157   HeadSet   2023 Sep 17, 3:10pm  

Have a new FAA rule where one of the two pilots must be unvaxxed.
158   Patrick   2023 Sep 25, 1:41pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/labs-of-liberalism-monday-september


💉 It’s extremely rare! On September 23rd, Alaska Airlines pilot Eric MacRae died suddenly and unexpectedly in his sleep in his HOTEL ROOM during a layover. As far as I can tell, there’s a complete news blackout on Eric’s death, except for a small note on Alaska Airlines’ website.




Thanks to the pilot death news embargo, I couldn’t determine Eric’s age, but he looks young and the other available facts seem to confirm that. Presumably, Eric would have gotten behind the stick the next morning when he could have had his heart attack during flight.

Update: commenters reported that Freedom Flyers says Eric was 37.

Eric leaves behind two young children and his wife Chael, an Alaska Airlines Flight Attendant.
159   WookieMan   2023 Sep 25, 2:00pm  

The_Deplorable says

WookieMan says

"There's a shortage of military pilots. You're talking out of your ass dude. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/patriotism-unity/with-war-potentially-approaching-a-pilot-shortage-looms-over-the-us-air-force "

Heh... The link you provided WookieMan contradicts you! It says:

"The Air Force’s array of 48 fighter squadrons and nine attack squadrons are today being asked to do the work of 60 squadrons, the head of Air Combat Command said recently."

In other words the number of pilots and planes needs to increase to meet the needs of today's military and has not increased because the Globalist traitors are too busy stealing the money needed for such an expansion! Or did they send the money to Ukraine?

Have a nice day!

Were you high or something when you made this comment??? You're literally repeating what I just said. There's a shortage of pilots that has nothing to do with the vaccine. No one wants to fly. It's prohibitively expensive to even get in prime earning years commercially. I'm seriously confused at what you're getting at. My point is made and valid. You're repeating what I just said and making it seem like i'm wrong. Lay off the drugs or alcohol.
160   The_Deplorable   2023 Sep 25, 9:11pm  

WookieMan says
"There's a shortage of pilots that has nothing to do with the vaccine."

You are wrong. It is the vaccine that created the pilot shortage by killing and injuring the pilots. That is why we have all these thousands of flights cancelled. Repeat, Thousands! This massive shortage of pilots arrived very suddenly in 2021 with the vaccine. The Nazi Globalist Reich was planning to have all of us get a health passport in order to fly and that went out the window with the very severe pilot shortage. During the weekend of July 4 2022 we had over 29,000 flights cancelled! And the vaccine is still killing pilots today!

Pretending that the vaccine did not cause the pilot shortage does not change the fact.
161   WookieMan   2023 Sep 26, 3:36am  

The_Deplorable says

The Nazi Globalist Reich was planning to have all of us get a health passport in order to fly and that went out the window with the very severe pilot shortage. During the weekend of July 4 2022 we had over 29,000 flights cancelled! And the vaccine is still killing pilots today!

The vaccine is dumb as can be but this is hyperbolic to the moon. We simply don't have enough young people training to be pilots to take the place of boomers as they retire. Vaccine illness is "maybe" less than 1% of the problem. Enrollment in military is down which is generally the gateway into commercial aviation to get "free" hours in the air. Enrollment is down in flight schools/colleges.

It's a demographic and want to do it issue, nothing to do with the vaccine 99%. You don't have to believe me, but it's fact. Young men and women don't want to get into the military or aviation in general. It's going to be a problem for the foreseeable future unless things change.
162   Onvacation   2023 Sep 26, 8:17am  

WookieMan says

Vaccine illness is "maybe" less than 1% of the problem.

Link? Or did you just make that up?
163   Misc   2023 Sep 26, 9:47pm  

There is a huge number of pilots getting disability payments from the military, but still flying for civilian airlines.

That would tend to up the number of pilots suffering health problems.

https://rotormedia.com/va-disability-probe-snags-military-veteran-pilots/
164   WookieMan   2023 Sep 27, 3:55am  

Onvacation says

WookieMan says

Vaccine illness is "maybe" less than 1% of the problem.

Link? Or did you just make that up?

Might be zero percent. https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-faa-ecg/fact-check-no-evidence-for-claims-faa-updated-its-pilot-ecg-guidelines-due-to-covid-19-vaccine-injury-idUSL1N34J2M0

Listen, I didn't get the vaccine and I think it's stupid and unnecessary. But to say the VACCINE itself grounded 29,000 planes is comical during a busy travel week littered with software/scheduling issues, weather on the east cost, and an aging pilot demographic that wants that time of the year off. That's what happened.

I'm against the covid vaccine, but when people try to bash it when it's not factual and there are clearly other reasons, the person loses legitimacy in any argument moving forward about the vaccine. There are plenty of other topics to bash the vaccine on that are not aviation related. It's one of the healthier professions in the country. If you're not healthy, you don't have a job.

Deplorable insinuates that 29,000 planes were grounded because of a vaccine. That's probably one of the most hyperbolic statements I've read on Patnet and I'd think you'd agree. Vaccine bad, yes. Vaccine stops 29,000 flight, nope.
165   WookieMan   2023 Sep 27, 4:08am  

Misc says

There is a huge number of pilots getting disability payments from the military, but still flying for civilian airlines.

That would tend to up the number of pilots suffering health problems.

https://rotormedia.com/va-disability-probe-snags-military-veteran-pilots/

Skimmed the article. This is clearly a disability ploy. Pilots can still work AND collect disability from the VA but the FAA seems to be catching on. Plenty of people do this with SSA. Just because you claim and take disability doesn't mean you're disabled. That's what the article is about. FAA is asking how are you disabled yet still flying. This has nothing to do with the vaccine. It's pilots gaming the system thinking they wouldn't get caught. Pretty smart honestly, but easy to unravel once it's caught, which that article makes it sound like the gig is over.

Fact is everyone is gaming the system. I could fall of the dock tomorrow at work and get disability pay for life and still do side gigs for cash. This works in private sector too. Had a buddy damage his neck delivering beer as a driver. $500k settlement through insurance. It wasn't that bad. Plays golf no problem was down for 2-3 weeks. That's it.

It's the classic don't hate the player, hate the game.
166   richwicks   2023 Sep 27, 5:10am  

WookieMan says


Young men and women don't want to get into the military or aviation in general.


Well!

Our government better lie us into another obvious bullshit war that has nothing to do with the health of this nation then!

THAT will get stupid assholes to sign up to murder people for no fucking reason

Golly? Why is recruitment down??? Just because our nation is run by lying scum that creates war for stock profits?

Gee whiz, how could anybody guess??!

What a fucking mystery that the US military is actively recruiting the mentally ill, when our fucking nation is run by sociopaths. Who could have forseen it????
167   WookieMan   2023 Sep 27, 5:50am  

richwicks says

WookieMan says

Young men and women don't want to get into the military or aviation in general.

Well!

Our government better lie us into another obvious bullshit war that has nothing to do with the health of this nation then!

That's a different rabbit hole that you continue to go down. I'm talking about the lack in general aviation interest overall. A different topic. It's kind of a big deal. Similar to young men not getting into the trades. There's money to be made in aviation. It just sucks in the early years, but is a good living with lots of perks.

My point/comments on this thread deal with pilot shortages having nothing to do with a vaccine. It's not about war. It's okay to not go off on that tangent every time. At some point beating a dead horse comes to mind and people stop listening.

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