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Stocks down . How to proceed.


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2022 Jan 21, 7:34am   11,617 views  134 comments

by KgK one   ➕follow (0)   💰tip   ignore  

Interest rate will be up. Stocks reacting by making market down.

They say bottom is near. Feel like another 20% more yo go

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60   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2022 Jan 24, 12:12pm  

Patrick says
Everything that was feared about Trump was false about Trump, but is true about Biden:
I think it is self-preservation smart for a president to choose a loser VP. Obama did.
61   Ceffer   2022 Jan 24, 12:19pm  

Golly. I have already torn all my hair out and it's rebounded a percent.
62   Hircus   2022 Jan 24, 12:50pm  

Predictions of the next 5-10 years?

A lost decade, or full steam ahead due to printing presses?
63   mell   2022 Jan 24, 1:15pm  

That was a heck of a comeback - I maintain an overall bullish stance for this week.
64   Eric Holder   2022 Jan 24, 1:16pm  

Hircus says
Predictions of the next 5-10 years?

A lost decade, or full steam ahead due to printing presses?



"Nobody knows nothing"
65   Ceffer   2022 Jan 24, 1:39pm  

djia wound up .29 percent up for the day. Well, at least I panicked while I had the opportunity.
66   clambo   2022 Jan 24, 3:05pm  

W5000 up 0.45% today, down 8.49% since January 1.
I’m lately just watching WFC which I want to sell.
“Domp eet”
67   Blue   2022 Jan 24, 3:29pm  

one can still buy mid, small cap and international funds, us large is overvalued.
68   GreaterNYCDude   2022 Jan 24, 4:09pm  

If your new to an area, probably best if you rent for three to six months to get to know the area well before you buy. As far as house prices, I suspect they will go up for another year two. In many ways it reminds me of the 2004 to 2008 run up beforw the crash. Every cycle is unique, but there are some similarities.

When you do buy, purchase what you can afford. Also, if you can afford an extra payment or two every year, do so.
When I bought 10 years ago that's what I did, and when I found myself unexpectedly unemployed this time last year, I'm glad I had gone about it that way. It saved my bacon.
69   mich   2022 Jan 24, 7:03pm  

porkchopexpress says
Do I buy a house now or continue renting?


I'm trying to buy. You can use the R/V ratio to make sure you're getting a good deal. https://www.jasonhartman.com/rv-ratios-good-property-deals-math/?source=patrick.net

I follow the 18.6 year real estate/credit cycle. Late this year/Early 2023 real estate will have it's half cycle low and after that it will continue to go up until 2026/7 and then it will take years before the bottom is in. Sounds crazy but look at history always repeats itself.

https://propertysharemarketeconomics.com/18-point-6-property-share-market-economics/?source=patrick.net
70   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2022 Jan 24, 7:21pm  

Onvacation says
It's real!


What? You thought I was speaking about bitcoin? C'mon man everyone knows that's just a ponzi scheme.
71   Blue   2022 Jan 24, 8:01pm  

mich says
I'm trying to buy. You can use the R/V ratio to make sure you're getting a good deal. https://www.jasonhartman.com/rv-ratios-good-property-deals-math/?source=patrick.net


On top of that there, everyone should be more cautious about the massive inflation. Its very likely can not be stoppable with $T spending that we don't have at least in the next few years. It doesn't mean the next R. POTUS will slow down either only will have a different priorities. All middle class and savers are being robbed by corrupt govs.
72   Eman   2022 Jan 24, 8:07pm  

Hircus says
Predictions of the next 5-10 years?

A lost decade, or full steam ahead due to printing presses?


According to Piper Sandler, we’re in a secular bull market which should last till 2030 or so before we enter a secular bear market (multi-years).

Cyclical bear market can happen within the secular bull market, but the general trend should still be up. I’ll leave this chart from Piper Sandler here.

73   Eman   2022 Jan 24, 8:09pm  

From a historical perspective, an average 17% correction is expected during the midterm election years.

https://twitter.com/ryandetrick/status/1480754093689876485?s=21&source=patrick.net
74   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Jan 24, 8:11pm  

Eman says
17% correction is expected

Pricing stuff with the fiat money is complicated nowadays.
75   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2022 Jan 24, 8:21pm  

Something stinks. I smell the plunge protection team.
76   AmericanKulak   2022 Jan 24, 8:34pm  

"Stocks have never been down so far, so fast in a year"
77   Eman   2022 Jan 24, 8:44pm  

AmericanKulak says
"Stocks have never been down so far, so fast in a year"


Did you mean in a month? If that’s the case, did you forget March 2020?
78   mell   2022 Jan 24, 8:51pm  

FJB says
Something stinks. I smell the plunge protection team.


Yep, they will keep plugging any major correction.
79   AmericanKulak   2022 Jan 24, 9:04pm  

Eman says
AmericanKulak says
"Stocks have never been down so far, so fast in a year"


Did you mean in a month? If that’s the case, did you forget March 2020?


Here is the article I pulled that from:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/market-never-plunged-10-fast-173607529.html?source=patrick.net
80   Bitcoin   2022 Jan 25, 10:59am  

Q1 2020 was an unbelievable buying opportunity....they dont come often.....buy the dip in stocks and HODL!
81   clambo   2022 Jan 25, 11:05am  

I almost want to make some money and buy more but I guess I’m lazy.

According to the government, I will be around for 20 years if I am average life expectancy.

I’m betting I’m above average (Lake Wobegone).

So, I assume I have 10 years of capital appreciation.
10 year negative returns are rare in the stock market.

I of course hate to see my pile shrink, who doesn’t?
I hope it’s fleeting.
82   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Jan 25, 12:44pm  

Looks like the PPT busy again on Tuesday.
83   Ceffer   2022 Jan 25, 4:30pm  

clambo says
According to the government, I will be around for 20 years if I am average life expectancy.

20 years of useless eater sucking of resources and your social security benefits. DIE, PARASITE, FUCKING DIE ALREADY! Unless, of course, you are one of the Satanist elites and have put in a nice supply of adrenochrome and stem cells.

The Globalist Guv will do everything it can to kill everybody over 60, and then fake the stats to make it look like everybody lives to 90.
84   Misc   2022 Jan 25, 4:35pm  

How else are they gonna get the votes?
85   PeopleUnited   2022 Jan 29, 5:14am  

We Are Being Warned That A Horrifying STOCK MARKET CRASH Which Could Wipe Out Trillions Has Now Begun
January 23, 2022 by Michael Snyder
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/we-are-being-warned-that-a-horrifying-stock-market-crash-which-could-wipe-out-trillions-has-now-begun/?source=patrick.net

Not sure what to make of the above, probably just more fear porn, they’ve been banging the drum for stock market collapse since 2008.
86   clambo   2022 Jan 29, 6:27am  

Social security payments are fleeting, an illusion.
If you depend on the money to live, you saved no money. You’re almost broke.Your life sucks.

If you saved money in IRAs, SEP-IRA, HSA, variable annuity, and regular accounts, you’ll have some retirement income sufficient to owe the Treasury almost what you get in social security payments.

Of course, Medicare has a lifetime “premium” deducted, starting at $144/month but it is increased as your income increases, so they take $204/month out of my social security payment.

I calculate my income would be higher if I had not contributed to social security and had just bought a variable annuity over the years.
87   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2022 Jan 31, 5:01am  

ZIRP increased the price of assets, for sure, but did it increase the price of beef, gas and cars? Supply chain issues (COVID overreaction) and free money to combat the criminal COVID lockdowns and economic destruction caused prices to rise. Will raising interest rates only temper asset price inflation? Will consumables inflation subside on its own, once the madness ends? Already there will not be more bazooka free money, unless the Dems get really desperate around midterms. It is possible that inflation will slow and subside on its own, relieving the Fed of the need to QT and raise rates. Stay tuned.
88   PeopleUnited   2022 Jan 31, 6:51am  

Wages are also going up, at least entry level jobs are up $3-$5 per hour, and they still can’t find people who want to work
89   Booger   2022 Apr 6, 3:03pm  

We are already in for a flat to slightly down stock market for the year.
It's past time to tame the housing market.
90   richwicks   2022 Apr 6, 3:13pm  

DooDahMan says
Fed must ‘inflict more losses’ on stock-market investors to tame inflation, says former central banker. ‘Fed will have to shock the market’ if financial conditions don’t tighten: former N.Y. Fed chief Dudley


So weird to read this sort of shit, because I remember when the USSR's "centrally planned economy" was constantly pointed to as an example of a bad idea. And it was a bad idea.

I wonder if the Fed doesn't intend to inflict the most damage possible on people? I'm paranoid enough to think they would. They can do that by raising interest rates to say, 5%, or even 10% - that would kill just about everybody, except the banks that get to borrow as much money as they wish from the Fed at about 0% interest rates.

It would crush the housing market, destroy the stock market, and there would be a rush to buy the dollar. Everybody that has debt without a fixed interest rate would be screwed. It would cause calls on the stockmarket as margins get tighter. Hmm, we'll see.
91   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Apr 6, 3:23pm  

KgK one says
Stocks reacting by making market down.

They say bottom is near. Feel like another 20% more yo go


SP up about 83 points since the date of the original post.

Up about 2%, - annual rate of about 7%.

The Sky Is Falling Down.
92   Shaman   2022 Apr 6, 3:57pm  

Never assume that a disastrous policy decision is the result of a mistake and not intentional design. Democrats especially use “stupid” policies which sound “well-meaning” to create awful situations that benefit themselves and their people greatly while harming the country. They aren’t that stupid. It’s on purpose.
93   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2022 Apr 10, 6:24am  

B.A.C.A.H. says
Up about 2%, - annual rate of about 7%.
Below the rate of inflation?
94   clambo   2022 Apr 10, 8:37pm  

The W5000 is down 7.92% so far this year.
I don't think that the number above counts dividends.
The stock market doesn't like rising interest rates, but I have my fingers crossed.

For the next 10 years I'm hoping for an average of 7-8% return.

I'm going to convert some of my IRA to a Roth IRA while it's down a bit.
95   zzyzzx   2022 Apr 26, 9:06am  

How to proceed:
Sit back and continue to collect dividends.
96   clambo   2022 May 1, 6:47am  

I’m probably not going to be a very happy camper for a while.

Oh well, I’ve still got my health 🤬
97   HeadSet   2022 May 1, 7:50am  

clambo says
I’m probably not going to be a very happy camper for a while.

I thought you were one of those who bought lots of Apple long before the massive run-up. A little bit of a retreat shouldn't be so bad.
98   mell   2022 May 1, 7:55am  

Buy select sector stocks only after lots of DD. Biotech for example. Portfolio is near al time high, doing better than it did during the boring fed ramp decade of 2009-2019. Biotechs stocks are cheap right now with ibb and xbi, russell around 52 wk lows
99   porkchopXpress   2022 May 1, 12:06pm  

But housing is insulated from price declines because no NINJA and it's different this time.

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