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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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2022 Feb 23, 8:30pm   362,815 views  4,013 comments

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2795   richwicks   2023 Sep 1, 4:27pm  

socal2 says


But yeah - Russia is somehow at the cusp of "victory" or something. At best, Russia is going to be bleeding people and material well into next year as they try to hang onto what's left of the land they stole and occupied last year.


No. This is a proxy war between the United States and Russia. It will go on for YEARS. The US will fund this war forever, Russia will just kill all the men in the Ukrainian military over time.

Whatever US media is saying, whatever it is, it's a lie.

People treat this war like it's a football game. It's annoying. It doesn't matter ONE BIT who you support, and you are foolish to support either side. We are lied into EVERY FUCKING WAR, and our media intentionally misinforms people, but they still root and cheer. People have discovered they have supported MANY atrocities by doing this, and they still keep doing it.

Remember when the US attacked Libya "to prevent a humanitarian crisis" and people screamed at you what a bad person you were not to support that war, and they it was left in civil war with slavery markets? At the end of this current war, you're going to find you did the same fucking thing AGAIN because apparently people can't learn from the past, they just keep making the same stupid mistakes, over and over and over again.

Ukraine, EVEN IF IT COULD WIN THE WAR, is fucked.
2796   stereotomy   2023 Sep 1, 5:24pm  

Patrick says

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1693761723230990509

Lol, this guy is good. "Instead of consent of the governed, we have contempt for the governed." and "If the donor class were cannibals, the government would feed Americans to them."

He also makes the valid point that a lot of this war seems driven by the hatred of people like Nuland and Blinken and the entire donor class for Russia because their Jewish ancestors were oppressed by Russia. Sure, their ancestors (and some of my own) were oppressed by tsarist Russia, but it's wrong to make their ethnic hatred for Russians and Ukrainians into US policy.

I'm trying to find smokeless powder for shotgun reloading, but everyone is out. It's all being bought up by the gubment to be shipped to the Ukraine.
2797   Ceffer   2023 Sep 1, 6:04pm  

This thread is interesting because it reflects propaganda about the Ukraine war that is crazy but accepted and promulgated as truth, and an opposite but truthful narrative with perspective. Pick which is which at your own hazard.

If you want to gauge the penetration power of propaganda and its wishful thinkers, this thread is a good study.
2799   Onvacation   2023 Sep 2, 8:39am  

socal2 says

Russia is going to be bleeding people and material well into next year

Do you think the Ukrainian army and NATO munitions will last until next year?
2800   The_Deplorable   2023 Sep 2, 11:42am  

Another neoCon disaster... "This is going to end terribly for the US. It has nothing to do with democracy. It doesn't matter which party is in. Victoria nuland is always there." - Jeffrey Sachs



More from https://twitter.com/apocalypseos/status/1697822863548612813 Watch at least the first 4 minutes.
2803   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Sep 2, 3:11pm  

The_Deplorable says






sacrificed ukrainians lives for war a
gainer russia is not a benefit to ukraine. they got used.
2804   richwicks   2023 Sep 2, 4:34pm  

Ceffer says






Russia I think will just hold position until there are no more Ukrainians alive to fight.

NATO might get involved, and they will do the same thing, unless NATO starts attacking Russia directly. It's madness.

Europe, if it was controlled by people that cared about Europe, should drop their dependence on the United States, and normalize relations with Russia. Europe will get cheap reliable energy, Russia will get technical know how and perhaps even an importation of some people that can reduce corruption within Russia.

Russia's main problem is criminal activity in my opinion, organized crime.
2805   richwicks   2023 Sep 2, 4:35pm  

Onvacation says

socal2 says


Russia is going to be bleeding people and material well into next year

Do you think the Ukrainian army and NATO munitions will last until next year?


I think they easily will. It's the logistics of getting the munitions there that is the trick.
2807   RWSGFY   2023 Sep 3, 3:04pm  

The_Deplorable says





See https://twitter.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1698170679571480912


Ah, another prediction by that stupid cunt. Amazingly being constantly wrong for 18 months doesn't deter him from continuing to make a fool out of himself. Must be a lucrative gig though.



The question is: why the people who are NOT paid to make fools of themselves keep regurgitating that moron's idiotic ramblings.
2808   richwicks   2023 Sep 3, 3:20pm  

RWSGFY says

The question is: why the people who are NOT paid to make fools of themselves keep regurgitating that moron's idiotic ramblings.


The government doesn't care what you believe, as long as it's not the truth.

It's only when you're telling the truth, you're not punished.

It's my opinion the Offense Industry just wants morons to pick sides in this stupid war, in that way, when it's just a football game, and not 1/2 trillion dollars of wasted money and 100's of thousands of dead people over nothing, it's just a dumb fucking game that doesn't matter.

That Offense Industry makes lots of money on murdering people for nothing. THEY don't care what the outcome of this war is, they only care about how much money they make.
2810   The_Deplorable   2023 Sep 3, 3:47pm  

RWSGFY says
"Ah, another prediction by that stupid cunt. Amazingly being constantly wrong for 18 months doesn't deter him from continuing to make a fool out of himself. Must be a lucrative gig though."

Using foul language is not an argument. It simply shows ignorance, arroogance and frustration from your part in the face of a truth you cannot handle - namely that Russia is defeating the USA and NATO in Ukraine.

The fact remains that Eastern Ukraine and the Crimea are now part of Russia, the sanctions are not affecting Russia - but they are destroying the USA and the West and the world learned that this is now a multipolar world. Foul language will not change these facts.
2811   UkraineIsTotallyFucked   2023 Sep 3, 4:53pm  

Trollhole says


Eventually, even the most perfumed bullshit starts to stink:

https://original.antiwar.com/Martin_Sieff/2023/08/30/by-now-jake-sullivan-expected-russia-to-be-destroyed/

https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/bound-to-lose


Mearsheimer one is an excellent article on blitzkrieg warfare and how it pertains to Bidens/Ukies total fuckup in that regard right now.
2813   richwicks   2023 Sep 3, 10:30pm  

Patrick says







The current ESTIMATE (? why the fuck is there an estimate at this point?) that 12,000 people have been displaced by the Maui fires. Let's be generous and say that 12,000 "families.

12,000 * $700 = $840,000

Oprah could double the aid herself without even noticing it. What a cunt. It's not even a million dollars.

2,200 buildings are estimated (again, estimated still!) to have been destroyed. These could all be rebuilt for $10 billion dollars.

But Slava Ukraini!!!!

Fuck our government. I'm in fully in favor of overthrowing it at this point. They don't do anything for this nation, they're just a group of fucking criminals.
2814   AmericanKulak   2023 Sep 3, 10:32pm  

Mearsheimer is great, I've been posting his stuff since a decade ago. His "Tragedy of Great Power Politics" should be mandatory reading for HS Seniors, nevermind college students.
2815   Ceffer   2023 Sep 3, 10:40pm  

The Globalists are spending out everybody else's lives, blood, money, security, etc. to the bitter end to no real purpose or cause except that they can possibly re-establish Ukraine as Globalist Mafia Central. As long as they can do it over brandy snifters and cigars, with no direct flesh in the game, they will continue to do so.

WWIII will be their cherry on the cake.
2816   richwicks   2023 Sep 3, 10:56pm  

Ceffer says

The Globalists are spending out everybody else's lives, blood, money, security, etc. to the bitter end to no real purpose or cause except that they can possibly re-establish Ukraine as Globalist Mafia Central. As long as they can do it over brandy snifters and cigars, with no direct flesh in the game, they will continue to do so.

WWIII will be their cherry on the cake.


The goal isn't WWIII, it's just endless war.
2817   UkraineIsTotallyFucked   2023 Sep 4, 11:43am  

AmericanKulak says

Mearsheimer is great, I've been posting his stuff since a decade ago. His "Tragedy of Great Power Politics" should be mandatory reading for HS Seniors, nevermind college students.


Updated version is now out:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0022Q8CVY
2818   Ceffer   2023 Sep 5, 11:35am  

Guess it must have been too much winning.

https://t.me/gatewaypunditofficial/35188
2819   Ceffer   2023 Sep 5, 11:40am  

Bbbbbut, what about Netflix? Won't they miss the computer geniuses? Kicking the cuckoo birds from the nest.

https://t.me/gatewaypunditofficial/35189
2820   Ceffer   2023 Sep 5, 11:42am  

I think Biden is having a fire sale on the remnants of Trump's wall.

https://t.me/gatewaypunditofficial/35192
2823   Patrick   2023 Sep 8, 6:49pm  

https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/nato-chief-openly-admits-russia-invaded?publication_id=82124&post_id=136866482&isFreemail=true&r=6gdz


NATO Chief Openly Admits Russia Invaded Ukraine Because Of NATO Expansion

During a speech at the EU Parliament’s foreign affairs committee on Thursday, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg clearly and repeatedly acknowledged that Putin made the decision to invade Ukraine because of fears of NATO expansionism.


From an AI response:


Secretary of State James Baker's famous "not one inch eastward" assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991. Baker's main aim was to allay Soviet fears of a larger, unified Germany


The US lied about NATO expansion, over and over.
2826   Patrick   2023 Sep 15, 10:59am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/best-life-friday-september-15-2023


Russia Today reported that last month, former comedian and Ukraine President Zelensky fired all his draft commissioners, every single one, and ordered a fresh review of all previous medical exemptions to the draft, citing “widespread corruption.” Imagine that. In Ukraine of all places.

Apparently the officials were selling medical draft exemptions or something.

Not only that, but Zelensky tightened the rules, which now allow conscripting shirkers with mental health problems, chronic diseases, tuberculosis, and HIV.

Nothing could go wrong with that plan.
2827   UkraineIsTotallyFucked   2023 Sep 15, 11:37am  

https://asiatimes.com/2023/09/abrams-upgrade-scrapped-after-leopards-tank-in-ukraine/

Great, the West's main battle tanks can't cut it against the Russians in Ukraine.
2828   richwicks   2023 Sep 15, 5:55pm  

Patrick says


https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/best-life-friday-september-15-2023


Russia Today reported that last month, former comedian and Ukraine President Zelensky fired all his draft commissioners, every single one, and ordered a fresh review of all previous medical exemptions to the draft, citing “widespread corruption.” Imagine that. In Ukraine of all places.

Apparently the officials were selling medical draft exemptions or something.

Not only that, but Zelensky tightened the rules, which now allow conscripting shirkers with mental health problems, chronic diseases, tuberculosis, and HIV.

Nothing could go wrong with that plan.




It's becoming increasingly clear that our government just wants to kill as many Ukrainians as possible. When this war is over, Russia will have Eastern Ukraine, and our government (and its companies, which run our government) will be raping what is left of the West. It's clearly depopulation.
2829   Ceffer   2023 Sep 15, 6:00pm  

Are the days of wine and cocaine up for Z? His sponsor has been arrested, and everybody is running out of mothballed military inventory to send to him to fail against the Russians. They're down to organ harvesting and child trafficking to make corruption payrolls. They'll start harvesting before they even reach the battle lines pretty soon.
2830   richwicks   2023 Sep 15, 6:10pm  

Ceffer says

Are the days of wine and cocaine up for Z? His sponsor has been arrested, and everybody is running out of mothballed military inventory to send to him to fail against the Russians. They're down to organ harvesting and child trafficking to make corruption payrolls. They'll start harvesting before they even reach the battle lines pretty soon.


Ihor Kolomoyskyi's arrest might just be a political move to make it appear there's some sort of rule of law. It's like indicting Hunter Biden.

Zelensky's job, in my opinion, is to destroy Ukraine and drastically weaken it to make it more easily taken over by foreign interests, which are American interests. And the end of this, the Western Ukrainians will regret allowing the coup.
2831   UkraineIsTotallyFucked   2023 Sep 15, 9:31pm  

richwicks says


and our government (and its companies, which run our government) will be raping what is left of the West. It's clearly depopulation.


Doubtful. Because by then the Russians will be the only ones capable of rolling in and taking the place. NATO countries will not.
2832   Ceffer   2023 Sep 18, 10:57am  

Guess they didn't like them hogging all the victory glory, and need to pass it around.

2834   Patrick   2023 Sep 19, 10:58am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/mishaps-and-bad-luck-tuesday-september


Watch out on deck! The narrative boom is swinging around. Newsweek ran an op-ed yesterday with the unintentionally-hilarious headline, get this: “We Can No Longer Hide the Truth About the Russia-Ukraine War.”

Bwahahahahaha! “We can no longer HIDE THE TRUTH!” Not “hide from the truth.” Get it?? It’s so obvious now that they can admit it right IN THE HEADLINE: They’ve been hiding the truth.

Conspiracy thinkers = 993, Experts = zero.

The author, Daniel L. Davis is a senior fellow for Defense Priorities and a former lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army with four combat assignments. Here’s a summary of his comments, in his own words (lightly-edited for brevity and clarity):

It's time to acknowledge objective reality and employ policies that can work. There is no realistic basis to believe that Ukraine has the capacity to attain its stated strategic objective to reclaim all its territory, including Crimea.
Washington has spent nearly $113 billion over the course of this war, provided Ukraine with an astounding volume of modern arms and ammunition, and delivered an impressive array of training and intelligence support. But after almost a year of preparation, Ukraine has hardly dented the Russian lines.
Although Ukraine appears to have finally penetrated the first line of Russia's main defense, the most difficult part of Russia's defensive system has yet to be overcome: the hundreds of kilometers of dragon's teeth, tank ditches, and yet more vast minefields. The best Ukraine can likely do for the rest of the year is to hold what they have and prevent the possibility of losing more territory to a potential Russian counteroffensive this fall.
The op-ed’s comments were fascinating. While the majority of Newsweek’s readers predictably commented that Lt. Col. Davis is just another sold-out Putin shill — Putin sure seems to have a lot of them! — there were other comments like this one, expressing surprise and shock that the Proxy War isn’t going according to plan:



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