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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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2022 Feb 23, 8:30pm   430,317 views  4,130 comments

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4119   Patrick   2024 Sep 9, 11:35am  

https://www.rt.com/news/603708-ukraine-istanbul-us-nuland/


Nuland confirms West told Zelensky to abandon peace deal

The US, UK and other backers of Ukraine told Kiev to reject the deal reached at the 2022 Istanbul peace talks with Russia, former US under secretary of state Victoria Nuland has said.

In an interview with Russian journalist Mikhail Zygar, former editor-in-chief of the liberal news channel Dozhd, which aired on Thursday, Nuland was asked to comment on reports that the peace process between Moscow and Kiev in late March and early April 2022 collapsed after then-British Prime Minister Boris Johnson traveled to Ukraine and told Vladimir Zelensky to keep fighting.
4121   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2024 Sep 14, 9:30am  

The_Deplorable says




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkE2-f8lVIw

that’s one guy, plenty of polish politicians say opposite of that.
4122   Patrick   2024 Sep 15, 5:27pm  

https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/the-origins-of-us-involvement-in


Ukraine is essentially a giant CIA base, posing as a sovereign nation.

The CIA moved into Ukraine after the fall of the Soviet Union, looking to take advantage of the lawless and destabilized country, using it as an offshore proxy, outside the scope of US oversight.

It began with the Nunn-Lugar Act in 1991, and then carried on into 2005, when then Senators Obama and Lugar visited Ukraine, to inspect the former Soviet bio, chemical, and nuclear facilities (pictured below), and then added Ukraine to the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, and began turning these former Soviet facilities into “defensive research facilities”, which opened the door for US contractors to establish their foothold in Ukraine, and set up their money laundering and racketeering operations, under the guise of “foreign aid”.

Then the CIA funded Nazi militant groups in Ukraine which led to the outbreak of civil war in 2014 in the Donbas. Amidst the chaos, the US State Department, via Victoria Nuland, leveraged the situation to install US-loyal puppets, including the infamous leaked phone call between her and fellow State Department bureaucrat Geoffrey Pyatt, about ensuring “their guy” Yatsenuik, was installed as Prime Minister. The State Department, in tandem with the CIA, covertly took control of Ukraine via Color Revolution in 2014.
4123   RayAmerica   2024 Sep 16, 8:11am  

Recall how the mainstream media, aka, the Ministry of Propaganda, were slobbering all over each other while claiming that the Abrams Tanks would be a game changer in Ukraine?

Ukraine rapidly losing US Abrams tanks – media

Military Watch estimates that 20 of the 31 units supplied to Kiev have been destroyed, badly damaged or captured

https://www.rt.com/news/604126-military-watch-ukraine-losing-abrams-tanks/

PS: Ukraine soldiers continue to refer to the Abrams as 'under armored, poorly functioning death traps,' while the Russians refer to them as 'junk that are made out of tin,' proven by the fact that they are easily taken out by Russian drones whenever they enter the battlefield.
4124   RayAmerica   2024 Sep 16, 8:19am  

Alleged would-be Trump assassin recruited for Ukraine’s International Legion

Before he was caught with an AK-47 on a golf course near Trump, Ryan Routh went to Kiev to fight for Ukraine’s military and recruit for its International Legion. Routh told US media he “had partners meeting with [Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense] every week.”

NOTE: article contains video of Routh being interviewed in Ukraine, whereby he expresses his fanatical support: 'Every able bodied man in the entire world should be here fighting for Ukraine.'
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/09/15/suspect-trump-assassination-plot-recruited-for-ukraines-international-legion/

4125   WookieMan   2024 Sep 16, 10:34am  

RayAmerica says

PS: Ukraine soldiers continue to refer to the Abrams as 'under armored, poorly functioning death traps,' while the Russians refer to them as 'junk that are made out of tin,' proven by the fact that they are easily taken out by Russian drones whenever they enter the battlefield.

Not the best source. US media has just stopped reporting on the whole war. Every side has a propaganda wing to it.

Also, the US really doesn't need tanks. There's no chance of anyone making landfall in a US attack. It's a racket to get government buddies contracts. So it wouldn't surprise me if ours were inferior.

That said, Russia cannot even take a tiny swath of land. They've lost a lot in the Black Sea fleet. Tanks are relevant, but they don't win wars. Pushing 3 years at this point.

Fact is there's really no need for war. Skip the cost or quality of the tanks. The fucking transportation costs are astronomical to get them to Ukraine.
4126   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Sep 16, 11:01am  

WookieMan says


Also, the US really doesn't need tanks. There's no chance of anyone making landfall in a US attack. It's a racket to get government buddies contracts. So it wouldn't surprise me if ours were inferior


Yup. These particular tanks were to fight a Soviet invasion in 1990s Europe. They were last successfully used in Operation Desert Storm. But that was against shitty Iraquis.

Strykers are better for use in the US. Yet the recent Civil War flick showed mostly Abrams. Stupid.

I think Strykers are able to avade drone attacks better than tanks, too.
4127   Eric Holder   2024 Sep 17, 2:04pm  

Explain this to me:

KYIV, Sept 16 (Reuters) - Ukraine said on Monday it had asked the United Nations and the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) to join humanitarian efforts in Russia's Kursk region following a cross-border incursion by Ukrainian forces.

Ukraine's army remains in the Kursk region more than a month after launching the assault, in which President Volodymyr Zelenskiy says Kyiv has taken control of about 100 settlements. Russia's Defence Ministry said on Monday its forces had regained control of two more villages.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha said he had instructed his ministry to invite the UN and ICRC to work in the Kursk region on Sunday. The ministry confirmed that it had issued the requests.

"Ukraine is ready to facilitate their work and prove its adherence to international humanitarian law," Sybiha said on X after visiting the Sumy region, from where Ukrainian forces launched the cross-borer attack.

He said the Ukrainian army was ensuring humanitarian assistance and safe passage to civilians in the Kursk region.

The Foreign Ministry said the invitations had been sent to the ICRC and UN, "taking into account the humanitarian situation and the need to properly ensure basic human rights in the territory of the Kursk region."

It said it had asked the ICRC to monitor Ukraine's compliance with the principles of international humanitarian law.
It was not immediately clear how or whether the UN or ICRC had responded.

Russia's state-run TASS news agency quoted Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov as saying such statements were "provocative". He made clear Moscow, which began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, expected the UN and ICRC not to accept the invitations.


Does OUR GREAT CHRISTIAN LEADER actually want Nazis to continue lampshading his subjects?

Where's that pucture with Kursk and Dumb Ass in a pool?
4128   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Sep 17, 2:14pm  

Eric Holder says

Does OUR GREAT CHRISTIAN LEADER actually want Nazis to continue lampshading his subjects?


Biden wants the Azov Ukey Nazi's to keep selling lampshades on eBay?

Wow!




4129   RWSGFY   2024 Sep 17, 3:02pm  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says


Eric Holder says


Does OUR GREAT CHRISTIAN LEADER actually want Nazis to continue lampshading his subjects?


Biden wants the Azov Ukey Nazi's to keep selling lampshades on eBay?

Wow!



Biden told OUR GREAT CHRISTIAN LEADER to forbid UN and Red Cross to monitor the treatment of his subjects in the Nazi-occupied Kursk People's Republic?

Wow indeed!

PS. Here's the pic:

4130   Patrick   2024 Sep 18, 11:37am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/alice-in-spyland-wednesday-september


Follow the money! Last week, Politico ran a whiny story headlined, “European governments criticize IMF trip to Russia as ‘propaganda win’ for Putin.”

If there is one kind of win that corporate media hates more than any other kind of victory or success, it is a propaganda win. They just can’t stand it. Please, they always cry, anything but a propaganda win. Not that. Not for Putin.

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) is a Washington-based international finance agency formed in 1994. Since then, its octopus-like tendrils have spread worldwide, making massive “development loans” and dishing out “financial advice” to other countries with more strings attached than a concert hall harp section.

Although the IMF is ostensibly neutral, its strings always benefit U.S. interests.

When Russia first invaded Ukraine in 2022, the IMF’s tendrils shrank away from that country, as part of Joe Biden’s backfiring sanctions regime. But last week, the IMF announced it was sending a delegation to Moscow to renew relationships. Although the announcement was light on details, looney Ukraine supporters did not fail to detect the obvious message. Politico:

Ukraine's backers argue that by visiting Russia, the IMF is sending the
message that relations with Moscow are normalizing despite its continued
unprovoked aggression in Ukraine.

Haha, unprovoked. The point is, the wheels are coming off the Ukraine bus. First, it was the Ryan Routh attack, which has done and will do more to tank Ukraine’s prospects than any other single event. Routh’s unhinged Ukraine support mingles with his assassination attempt, to create a politically unpalatable narrative stew.

The IMF’s new mission to Russia is the kind of behind-the-scenes stuff that says more than a hundred headlines. Follow the money, and the money is going to see President Putin.

Russia’s economy has done terrific in the last two years, breaking all previous records, in the absence of any IMF “help.” They’d be crazier than the CIA wants you to think Ryan Routh is, if they got back in bed with the grasping financial agency. The IMF has a lot of selling to do.

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