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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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2022 Feb 23, 8:30pm   439,432 views  4,272 comments

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2549   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Jun 26, 1:55pm  

That guy's a paper dictator. He'd fly away in the first strong wind.
2551   Patrick   2023 Jun 27, 11:16am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/media-meltdown-tuesday-june-27-2023?publication_id=463409&post_id=131401181&isFreemail=true


Finally, enjoy this clip of revolting disgrace John Kerry twisting in the wind after a French reporter pressed him to explain how Bush invading Iraq was any different than Putin invading Ukraine. The reporter insisted that the US invaded Iraq on a false premise — just like how Russia allegedly invaded Ukraine.

Kerry, face tragically frozen in a botox-induced Halloween mask, angrily stammered out that it was totally different when we did it! Because we were too stupid to realize we were invading Iraq over false pretenses. Somebody tricked us.

It’s a little hard to hear Kerry under the French translator’s voice over, but still. It is very satisfying.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1673359887005253638




Fucker. He knew that WMD was a lie. They all knew it was a lie, and that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. It was all the Saudis, and probably the CIA.
2552   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Jun 27, 1:03pm  

If anyone has the slightest doubt about 9/11 it's because you haven't taken the time, not because you can't know. I push Corbett for different things, but this one is his area of expertise. I have a thread on here about the latest in his 9/11 series that came out this past year. The sources as always are linked and plentiful. As Mulder always says, the truth is out there.
2553   Eric Holder   2023 Jun 27, 3:58pm  



Imagery published on social media has confirmed that a Russian Air Force Ilyushin Il-22M airborne command post platform was among several military aircraft shot down inside Russia in an apparent attempted coup by the Wagner Private Military Co.

Wagner-operated air defenses brought down the four-engine turboprop on June 24 near the city of Voronezh in southwestern Russia as the paramilitary group’s forces made an advance toward Moscow in what President Vladimir Putin described as an “internal betrayal” of the Russian people. All 10 crew on the Il-22 were killed.

Wagner forces also bought down several Mil Mil-8/17 transport helicopters, including: a specialized electronic warfare version; a Kamov Ka-52 attack helicopter; and a Mil Mi-35 attack helicopter being used to to stave off Wagner’s advance.

Yevgeny Prigozhin, Wagner’s owner, triggered the rebellion, aiming his ire at the head of the Russian military, Gen. Valery Gerasimov, and Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.

Prigozhin publicly blamed the two men for the conflict in Ukraine which has seen thousands of Wagner personnel killed. In a video published online on June 23, he said justification for the war in Ukraine was a lie, and just an excuse for "a small group of scumbags" to promote themselves and deceive both the public and Putin.

...

The loss of the Il-22M—a military conversion of the Il-18 airliner—represents a significant loss in the Russian Air Force’s intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance fleet. It is the second such loss in five years. Back in September 2018, an Il-20—an electronic intelligence version of the Il-18—was shot down accidentally by Syrian air defenses as it returned from a patrol flight over the Mediterranean Sea.


https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/budget-policy-operations/wagner-forces-shoot-down-russian-airborne-command-post


2554   Eric Holder   2023 Jun 27, 4:05pm  

In conclusion: the mutiny was "mostly peaceful". =))
2555   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Jun 27, 4:10pm  

Eric Holder says


In conclusion: the mutiny was "mostly peaceful". =))


https://imgflip.com/i/7qsss3

as asked
2556   Ceffer   2023 Jun 27, 4:24pm  

How come Russia isn't crawling on its knees begging Ukraine for forgiveness, now? Any day, now, any day.
2557   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Jun 27, 4:48pm  

Ceffer says

How come Russia isn't crawling on its knees begging Ukraine for forgiveness, now? Any day, now, any day.


they won’t. they’ll leave 3 years from now when they run out of resources. history repeats itself.
2558   RWSGFY   2023 Jun 27, 8:16pm  

Great summary on the mostly peaceful mutiny (with a bonus explanation why it wasn't a coup): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KB-cCVVZSnU&pp=QAFIAQ%3D%3D
2559   richwicks   2023 Jun 27, 9:32pm  

Patrick says

Fucker. He knew that WMD was a lie. They all knew it was a lie, and that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. It was all the Saudis, and probably the CIA.


@Patrick: IF You want to really know what happened on 9/11:

This is part I:
https://rumble.com/v2m62j8-ryan-dawson-reveals-what-really-happened-on-911...what-the-mainstream-doesn.html

This is part II:
https://rumble.com/v2uhvs0-ryan-dawson-exposes-hidden-truth-about-911-part-2.html

I've shown this before, so I'm not going to bother to embed it. Despite the stupidity of the podcast he's on, basically he explains all the intelligence connections. Get a pen and paper.

It was Israel, Saudi Arabia, and US intelligence all in cooperation.
2560   richwicks   2023 Jun 27, 9:34pm  

NuttBoxer says

If anyone has the slightest doubt about 9/11 it's because you haven't taken the time, not because you can't know. I push Corbett for different things, but this one is his area of expertise.


@NuttBoxer - you mean James Corbett of the Corbett report? He knows, but Ryan Dawson did a lot more work and knows more about it. I linked to two of his videos above. He covers it all the time.
2561   richwicks   2023 Jun 27, 9:47pm  

Here's a short example of something Ryan Dawson did over a decade ago:


original link

Shake up any memories? 9/11 was definitely a false flag.
2562   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Jun 28, 8:31am  

Prigozhin hates Shoigu because he tried to kill the Wagner troops in Ukraine when they wouldn't pay for ammo through various means, and bombed them when they returned to Russia. There's a lot of other aggression's, but suffice it to say Prigozhin took a lot of shit before pushing back. If they downed these aircraft, it's likely because they perceived them as a threat. Only reason Pirgozhin got as close to Moscow as he did is he has the support of Russian troops. He wouldn't get that if he was attacking them indiscriminately.
2563   AmericanKulak   2023 Jun 28, 8:42am  

Great News!

Biden announces that "Putin is losing the war in Iraq"

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1674062124245549056
2564   Patrick   2023 Jun 28, 6:24pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/measles-and-weasels-wednesday-june?publication_id=463409&post_id=131649738&isFreemail=true


Lost in all the fake news about the Wagner Civil War, the Evening Standard ran a story late last week headlined, “Ukraine May Be ‘Pausing Counteroffensive’, Says Institute for the Study of War.”

According to the article, on June 17th, the Wall Street Journal reported that Ukrainian forces “have mostly paused their advances in recent days” as command in Kiev “re-examines tactics.”

Re-examines. That’s a euphemism for “licks its wounds.”

In its latest update on the war, the Institute for the Study of War, a Washington-based think tank, said these news reports are consistent with their own recent observations of the “scale and approach” of local Ukrainian counterattacks in southern and eastern parts of the country. It added that it still does not look like Ukraine has launched its “main” effort yet.

The rationale for the “pause” was not clear, especially given that it provides the Russians even more time to shore up their defenses.

Headlines this week suggested a new push to lower liberal expectations, signaling nothing is going to happen anytime soon. ...

Haha, it’s not that the Russians are winning or anything. It’s the GROUND. The Ukrainians are being defeated by dirt.

The Times’ article, which is not paywalled, includes a helpful gigantic infographic with a large, scrollable battle map, pointing out all the different ways the devilish Russians have craftily frustrated the brave Ukrainian CounterOffensive™.

The Ukrainians have unlimited money, weapons, and ammo, and the Russians are — supposedly — isolated under crushing sanctions. Just saying.
2565   AmericanKulak   2023 Jun 28, 6:25pm  

Patrick says

Institute for the Study of War.

Like the Carnegie Insitute for Peace, this org is pure bullshit
2566   Eric Holder   2023 Jun 28, 6:33pm  

AmericanKulak says

Patrick says

Institute for the Study of War.

Like the Carnegie Insitute for Peace, this org is pure bullshit


Yep, they consist mostly of fresh grads with some BS degrees. No grizzled generals there.
2567   Bd6r   2023 Jun 28, 7:26pm  

NuttBoxer says

Prigozhin hates Shoigu because he tried to kill the Wagner troops in Ukraine when they wouldn't pay for ammo through various means, and bombed them when they returned to Russia. There's a lot of other aggression's, but suffice it to say Prigozhin took a lot of shit before pushing back. If they downed these aircraft, it's likely because they perceived them as a threat. Only reason Pirgozhin got as close to Moscow as he did is he has the support of Russian troops. He wouldn't get that if he was attacking them indiscriminately.

All appears to be true according to pro-Prigozhin telegram channels. He downed 5 or 6 helicopters and 1 aircraft because they were either firing at them or coordinating fire. Nearly all Russian regular troops showed either support or positive indifference to Wagner. Putin the fearless fled to his Waldai residence from Moscow.

Now the $million dollar question is which Russian or international faction supported Prigozhin and what was the desired outcome of this exercise. I can’t answer this and I have not seen a good answer anywhere.
2568   Bd6r   2023 Jun 28, 7:31pm  

NuttBoxer says


Putin is part of WEF, is the third person facing camera the conspiracy?

There are Patnetters who believe that Putin is savior of Western civilization, anti globalization, etc. His actions during pLandemic and attack of Ukraine at exact time to take spotlight away from gubbermint-committed Covid crimes speak otherwise, and so does his fraternization with Bush crime family.
2569   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Jun 28, 8:40pm  

Bd6r says

Now the $million dollar question is which Russian or international faction supported Prigozhin and what was the desired outcome of this exercise. I can’t answer this and I have not seen a good answer anywhere.


He has supporters in Moscow, likely inside the Kremlin. During the tense 24 hours before it become clear he would not be advancing all the way to Moscow, most of the powerful people stayed silent. If they thought Prigorzhin had no chance, they would have all quickly denounced him. I think he revealed his hand a bit just to show how far he could go if pushed. But this is far from over. Kremlin does not forgive, or forget.
2570   Ceffer   2023 Jun 28, 10:24pm  

I seriously doubt that Putin wouldn't have a way to pull the plug on Wagner i.e. not trust the mercenaries and inch. One rumor is he has the families of the Wagner leaders under soft arrest and anything untoward happens, they are toast down their generational gene pools. That seems to be the language they understand.
2571   richwicks   2023 Jun 28, 10:58pm  

Bd6r says

All appears to be true according to pro-Prigozhin telegram channels. He downed 5 or 6 helicopters and 1 aircraft because they were either firing at them or coordinating fire. Nearly all Russian regular troops showed either support or positive indifference to Wagner. Putin the fearless fled to his Waldai residence from Moscow.


What evidence do you have of any of this?
2572   richwicks   2023 Jun 28, 10:59pm  

Bd6r says

There are Patnetters who believe that Putin is savior of Western civilization, anti globalization, etc. His actions during pLandemic and attack of Ukraine at exact time to take spotlight away from gubbermint-committed Covid crimes speak otherwise, and so does his fraternization with Bush crime family.


@Bd6r What Patnetters think that Putin is "savior of Western civilization"? Name them, and support your statement, or this is just another fucking strawman that's just bullshit rotting in your "mind".
2573   richwicks   2023 Jun 28, 11:12pm  

NuttBoxer says


He has supporters in Moscow, likely inside the Kremlin. During the tense 24 hours before it become clear he would not be advancing all the way to Moscow, most of the powerful people stayed silent. If they thought Prigorzhin had no chance, they would have all quickly denounced him.


@NuttBoxer - you don't know any of this shit. You have no idea what was said behind closed doors.

This was an ACTUAL attempt at an insurrection - and what happened? Are there 800 people in jail over one, supposed, insurrection rotting in jail, with no trial date? Did Moscow have agent provocateurs to entrap people? No - but the United States "government" does that today.

Prigorzhin was simply exiled, and Wagner, is gone, as any mercenary group should be. No mercenary group has any honor nor should they exist. They are paid murderers, nothing more, like Blackwater. By definition, they are just paid killers, nothing more.
2574   Bd6r   2023 Jun 29, 4:18am  

richwicks says

Bd6r says


All appears to be true according to pro-Prigozhin telegram channels. He downed 5 or 6 helicopters and 1 aircraft because they were either firing at them or coordinating fire. Nearly all Russian regular troops showed either support or positive indifference to Wagner. Putin the fearless fled to his Waldai residence from Moscow.


What evidence do you have of any of this?

Read grey zone and rybar telegram channels - I have links to them above. First one is channel of Wagner and they have all of the information I gave and much more.
Don’t be a lazy boy, please.
2575   Bd6r   2023 Jun 29, 4:24am  

richwicks says

Bd6r says


There are Patnetters who believe that Putin is savior of Western civilization, anti globalization, etc. His actions during pLandemic and attack of Ukraine at exact time to take spotlight away from gubbermint-committed Covid crimes speak otherwise, and so does his fraternization with Bush crime family.


Bd6r What Patnetters think that Putin is "savior of Western civilization"? Name them, and support your statement, or this is just another fucking strawman that's just bullshit rotting in your "mind".

Ones who say that outlet is calling out West about pedophilia and homosexuality, for example (while ignoring well-documented evidence that Putler is a pedo himself). Search threads on PATNET and please don’t be a potty-mouthed and ignorant person who, for example, in his brilliant mind could not predict that Russia will attack Ukraine, who refused to believe that Russian troops were in Ukraine in 2014, among many other examples of ignorance.
2576   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Jun 29, 8:34am  

Ceffer says

I seriously doubt that Putin wouldn't have a way to pull the plug on Wagner i.e. not trust the mercenaries and inch. One rumor is he has the families of the Wagner leaders under soft arrest and anything untoward happens, they are toast down their generational gene pools. That seems to be the language they understand.


I don't think Putin was that involved, although I'm betting he tightens Shoigu's leash quite a bit after this, and certainly could take action against Prigozhin. Shoigu didn't bother with the families, he tried to take out the men pretty directly.
2577   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Jun 29, 8:41am  

richwicks says

NuttBoxer - you don't know any of this shit. You have no idea what was said behind closed doors.


What the fuck are you rambling about? Nothing that I said was secretive at all. The head of RT said she was "On a boat in the river", and that's why she didn't communicate during that period. You can look up yourself exactly how many powerful Russians made public statements denouncing Prigozhin, because they're fucking public.
2578   Eric Holder   2023 Jun 29, 11:18am  

June 6th is an interesting coincedence. To put things in perspective: the D-day was also on June 6th (1944) and Allied force only managed to break out of the beachhead at the end of July. For example it took till July 21st to capture Caen, which is located less than 10 miles from the shore. So what would we call Operation Overlord on June 29th, 1944 if we use the same criteria journos are using for this counter-offensive? "A disaster, an abject failure! Time to stop this sillines, accept the reality and negotiate peace with Hitler!"
2579   richwicks   2023 Jun 29, 12:43pm  

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2580   richwicks   2023 Jun 29, 12:44pm  

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2581   richwicks   2023 Jun 29, 12:46pm  

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2582   Patrick   2023 Jun 29, 1:34pm  

Patrick says






https://babylonbee.com/news/in-show-of-solidarity-with-ukraine-biden-cancels-2024-us-elections


WASHINGTON, D.C. — As a sign of ongoing commitment and support for Ukraine in its war against Russia, American President Joe Biden has announced he is officially canceling the 2024 elections.

"If it's the right move for Zelensky, it's the right move for us," Biden said when the announcement was made. "With the current state of hostilities between Ukraine and Russia, it's vital that we maintain continuity of leadership…here in the United States, I mean. Suspending the 2024 elections will ensure I stay in office and the war machine keeps churning in Ukraine. Butter pecan!"

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky drew attention this past week by suspending elections in the country, citing Ukrainian laws that require elections to be held during peacetime. "It would be both illegal and unethical for us to hold elections now," Zelensky said. "We cannot hold elections until the war is over, and the war cannot be over until I have completed my collection of sports cars, gold jewelry, and rare Funko Pop figures. We will continue to fight the evil Russian invaders to keep this a free and democratic nation, and anyone who questions my decision will be eliminated."

Since the war began, Zelensky has consolidated all Ukrainian TV outlets into one state-run broadcast, dissolved opposing political parties, and sought to outlaw the Ukrainian Orthodox Church — all of which have provided great inspiration for Biden. "That guy really knows how to run a free country, folks," Biden said of Zelensky. "My administration hopes to follow his great example. Where am I, again?"

At publishing time, Zelensky had granted himself additional emergency powers, declared himself Emperor, and announced the creation of a clone army.
2583   Patrick   2023 Jun 29, 2:46pm  

richwicks says

awaiting moderation


"You're a complete waste of time." is definitely intended as a personal insult.

Please don't do that.
2584   richwicks   2023 Jun 29, 3:20pm  

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