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2022 Mar 16, 10:53pm   11,322 views  91 comments

by clambo   ➕follow (2)   💰tip   ignore  

Putin fucked up, his generals are incompetent, his army is unwilling, Ukraine is unconquered.

The month Putin chose to invade was wrong, but maybe intended to freeze Germany by cutting off the natural gas? He should have invaded in good weather.

The columns you saw of both attack and supply equipment have to travel on roads, or get stuck in the mud.
Ukraine fighters ambush the supply trucks, then no fuel and no food for the soldiers.
The long column you saw was vehicles that had no fuel, and soldiers spent nights with no warmth and no food in 10F nights. The column actually could neither advance nor retreat.

Nobody wants to drive a supply truck since he knows he’s a target, more so than a tank.

The communications of Russian guys isn’t secure; for some reason they cannot use the secure comms they developed. So, Russian soldiers are using iPhones and walkie talkies.

Ukraine guys use “find my iPhone” or similar technology to “reach out and touch someone” with artillery or drone, etc.
This is how they could kill some Russian generals and commanders who were not on the front lines.

The Russians did not have enough precision bombs and have low training time, and air and ground forces are not coordinated, so Russia has no air superiority to protect the sitting ducks in the columns in the road.

Kiev is so large that the Russians are not numerous enough to encircle it.
Putin is not able to call up all of the Russian army without admitting the “special operation” is in fact a war.
So, he’s trying to get Belarus to send cannon fodder, along with Syrian sacrificial soldiers.
(Belarus is not enthusiastic about the idea).

Meanwhile, the Russian conscripts are being hunted down by Ukraine forces and the dead are estimated at 5000 to 15,000
Edit: US Pentagon says 7000 deadskis.
Wounded are likely 3x the number of dead.
It’s too many dead and wounded too soon.

Just recently videos of Russian atrocities against civilians are embarrassing Putin.
There is a tank swerving to run over and crush a civilian car, cars with people inside blown up, people massacred waiting for bread, an old guy shot for walking down the street.

The lie about NATO “provoked” Russia is easily debunked by the Feb 14 meeting in Kiev of chancellor Scholz and Zelensky.
Germany Chancellor Scholz : It was strange Russia would raise this issue (Ukraine in NATO) given it is not on the agenda.
Putin knew that Germany, therefore NATO, had no plans to bring Ukraine into the alliance, however much Ukraine desired it.

Evidently Ukraine doesn’t need NATO; they are going to be armed to the teeth after this is over.

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52   Booger   2022 Mar 26, 9:06am  

Russian Missile Command: The game where 60 percent of your missiles don’t work.

53   clambo   2022 Mar 26, 9:29am  

A huge Russian ship with weapons and supplies was blown up in Mariupol.
It’s not replaceable because Turkey closed the access to the Black Sea.

A Russian electronic warfare system worth tens of millions was recently surrendered to the Ukraine people by a deserter.

A funny conversation was intercepted between Russian soldiers.
One was talking about how best to retreat and get out of danger:
“I’d rather be a deserter than be fertilizer.”
54   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2022 Mar 27, 7:47pm  

Booger says
Russian Missile Command: The game where 60 percent of your missiles don’t work.



I have to tell you man, the weirdest part is how this same fucking guy is taking a selfie of the same fucking rocket in 4 different places. Every time. I kind of doubt this is a real thing even.
55   richwicks   2022 Mar 27, 9:54pm  

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
I have to tell you man, the weirdest part is how this same fucking guy is taking a selfie of the same fucking rocket in 4 different places. Every time. I kind of doubt this is a real thing even.


Well, why is there a rocket in the middle of a field with nothing in it?

It looks like an unmaintained graveyard. Why would a weapon be dropped into that?

Whatever, doesn't matter. I'm used to everything being a lie during a war.

Speaking of which - anybody catch the "Ukrainian" "fighter pilot" Juice with Anderson Cooper?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x0l6rSAtrM&source=patrick.net

He's got a funny Swedish accent and sports a full beard. I wonder if CNN is this stupid, or if CNN just thinks their viewers are this stupid?
56   clambo   2022 Mar 27, 10:50pm  

All I have seen are YouTube videos of shit blowing up, like ships, tanks, helicopters, and Russian soldiers crying to their mothers.

I don’t like to watch the alphabet news.

What is interesting is now Ukraine has more tanks than a month ago, from Russian guys deserting or surrendering, while Russia is down 500 tanks in a month.
57   richwicks   2022 Mar 28, 12:10am  

clambo says
What is interesting is now Ukraine has more tanks than a month ago, from Russian guys deserting or surrendering, while Russia is down 500 tanks in a month.


You have absolutely no idea what is going any more than anybody else does.

https://webcam.scs.com.ua/en/europe/ukraine/kiev/?source=patrick.net

There are, supposedly, a bunch of live video cams in and around Ukraine. Take it with a grain of salt. Whatever.
58   zzyzzx   2022 Mar 28, 12:18pm  

The dead Russian general count is now up to 7.
61   richwicks   2023 Mar 16, 10:08pm  

RWSGFY says






How can you conceivably think that Russia is in a corner here?

When has the US government EVER told the truth about ANY war?

I don't see why the US propaganda machine is doing this. I can't tell if they are stupid and actually believe their own propaganda, or if there's some ulterior motive. It's just going to further chip away at the credibility of our government and media. Ukraine is going lose, it's inevitable, even with direct NATO intervention they will lose.

I simply cannot understand why ANYBODY believes the US propaganda at this point, and what's the point of being indoctrinated into it? If you believe (or don't believe) that Ukraine will be victorious, it's not going to change the outcome of the war. Russia is losing a war right now, the propaganda war, but that doesn't matter.

The fact of the matter is that neither Europeans nor Americans really CARE about this war. They know sure as hell they don't want to be involved with it. They don't want to pay for it. We've been in 20 years of wars, and what has the US gotten out of any of it? Nothing. This is just another fucking stupid disaster that can only harm the US and Europe. Who gives a shit if Russia is harmed? Nobody sane cares, except Russians.
63   Tenpoundbass   2023 Apr 4, 1:05pm  

clambo says

A huge Russian ship with weapons and supplies was blown up in Mariupol.
It’s not replaceable because Turkey closed the access to the Black Sea.

A Russian electronic warfare system worth tens of millions was recently surrendered to the Ukraine people by a deserter.

A funny conversation was intercepted between Russian soldiers.
One was talking about how best to retreat and get out of danger:
“I’d rather be a deserter than be fertilizer.”


We Got 'Em NOW! We got 'em NOW!

Next week, "We need another 30 billion dollars or Putin is going to rip off our heads and shit down our necks!"

At this point, I'm certain Putin, Biden and Zelenski is taking the whole fucking world for a ride on this Fake nonsense war, that is nothing more than a Border dispute and a Ukraine's attempt to purge all Soviet era relic ethnic Russians(which is all this really is).
64   Shaman   2023 Apr 4, 1:49pm  

Ukraine is about to surrender to Russia.
They put everything on defending Bahkmut and lost badly. They have little to nothing left, either soldiers or arms.
It’s over except for the talking.
65   socal2   2023 Apr 4, 2:42pm  

Tenpoundbass says

We Got 'Em NOW! We got 'em NOW!


Funny thing is - is that it has been the Russian fan-boys that have been constantly telling everyone that Russia is always on the verge total victory and that Europe is going to freeze and starve to death. "Just need another 50K rapist and murders convicts to throw into the meat grinder!!"
66   richwicks   2023 Apr 4, 3:56pm  

Shaman says

Ukraine is about to surrender to Russia.
They put everything on defending Bahkmut and lost badly. They have little to nothing left, either soldiers or arms.
It’s over except for the talking.


Ukraine is run by US puppets. The US isn't going to give up anytime soon. The maniac criminals that run the United States will kill every last Ukrainian, and then some, before they quit.
67   richwicks   2023 Apr 4, 3:56pm  

socal2 says

Tenpoundbass says


We Got 'Em NOW! We got 'em NOW!


Funny thing is - is that it has been the Russian fan-boys that have been constantly telling everyone that Russia is always on the verge total victory and that Europe is going to freeze and starve to death. "Just need another 50K rapist and murders convicts to throw into the meat grinder!!"


This isn't a football game.
68   Eric Holder   2023 Aug 16, 3:46pm  

Colonel General Gennady Zhidko, a top Russian Army commander who was dismissed as Moscow suffered setbacks in the Ukraine war, has died at the age of 57, a regional governor announced on Wednesday.

The former commander of Russia's Eastern Military District and the former Russian deputy minister of defense died in Moscow "after a long illness," Mikhail Degtyarev, the governor of Khabarovsk Krai said in a post on Telegram.

Zhidko served as Chief of Staff of the Russian Armed Forces in Syria in 2016, and in 2018 was appointed Commander of the Eastern Military District. He was made deputy minister of defense in 2021.

He was removed from his post as commander of the Southern Grouping of Forces in October 2022 and replaced by General Sergei Surovikin after just months on the job. His dismissal came as Russia suffered heavy losses in the war.


Russian word of the day - "zapoy". Look it up.
69   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Aug 16, 4:26pm  

reporting this thread for false advertising. headline not matching the topic… disappointed in all of you!
70   RWSGFY   2023 Aug 22, 10:59am  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

reporting this thread for false advertising. headline not matching the topic… disappointed in all of you!


Here, hope this will cheer you up: https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1693504040892776851
71   komputodo   2023 Aug 22, 2:21pm  

clambo says

Evidently Ukraine doesn’t need NATO; they are going to be armed to the teeth after this is over.

You really nailed it.
72   Patrick   2023 Aug 22, 9:06pm  

RWSGFY says






If you poke around for images of Russian cities, a lot of them look pretty nice.

@RWSGFY

I really don't understand the hatred for Russia. What did they ever do to you?

All of my mother's ancestors lived under the tsars and were no fans, but I don't see how that should make me hate them now.
73   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2023 Aug 23, 6:44am  

I think all of the lies that have been told for more than a year and a half about "the Ukrainians are winning," "the Ukrainian cause is just," and "the Russians are evil and the Russians are incompetent," all of that is collapsing. And it is collapsing because what is happening on the battlefield is horrific.

The Ukrainians, now, we think have lost 400,000 men killed in battle. We were taking about 300-350,000 a month ago. the last month of this supposed counteroffensive, which was to sweep the battlefield, they lost at least 40,000 killed. We don't even know how many people have been wounded, but we know probably upwards of 40-50,000 soldiers are amputees. We know the hospitals are full. And we know that Ukrainian units at the platoon and company level... are in piecemeal fashion surrendering to the Russians. not because they don't want to fight, but because they can't fight anymore. They have so many wounded they can't evacuate them. And commanders are saying if they can't evacuate their wounded they're going to surrender because otherwise, the wounded will die.

And I think we're going to see this army we've spent so heavily on increasingly melt away.

They have over 300,000 combat troops in reserve in Russia. And I think they are sitting there and not being released to fight because President Putin anticipates the possibility that we will intervene in Western Ukraine. And if we intervene in Western Ukraine, the Russians will be ready for that. And the consequences for us and for NATO will be devastating because we are not ready to fight the Russians.


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/08/21/macgregor_the_us_is_on_the_brink_of_a_catastrophic_defeat_in_eastern_europe.html
74   zzyzzx   2023 Aug 23, 10:08am  

Shaman says

Ukraine is about to surrender to Russia.
They put everything on defending Bahkmut and lost badly. They have little to nothing left, either soldiers or arms.
It’s over except for the talking.


Quoted for posterity.
75   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2023 Aug 23, 11:04am  

zzyzzx says

Quoted for posterity.


Their troops are surrendering. The ones still alive.

https://patrick.net/comment?comment_id=1980733
76   komputodo   2023 Aug 23, 11:30am  

Patrick says

I really don't understand the hatred for Russia. What did they ever do to you?

I do....the media told them to hate Russia so they hate Russia...It's as simple as that.
78   Bd6r   2023 Aug 23, 12:03pm  

Misc says

Russia incompetent ???

A SHOCKING development

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-state-media-says-mercenary-chief-prigozhin-was-in-plane-crash-north-of-moscow/ar-AA1fG4aq?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=ed8d86983b094756b16e1c546f14abf9&ei=49

Who coulda foreseen???????

Too soon, and thus too obvious who did it. Supposedly shot down by AA missile.
79   Bd6r   2023 Aug 23, 12:07pm  

And from Wagner telegram channel:

https://t.me/s/apwagner

Груз 200, мы вместе. Любимый шеврон некогда самого перспективного политика. Теперь он стал реальностью. Уверен, что на похороны к этому человеку придет огромное количество людей. Думаю похоронят его в Санкт-Петербурге. У кого есть возможность рекомендую однозначно с ним проститься персонально. Если кто то думал, что это был человек-фейк, то его убийство по заказу Пыпы подтвердило окончательно что все было по настоящему.

Approximate translation: Cargo 200 (dead soldiers), favorite sign of the most perspective politician. Now it became a reality. I think he will be buried in St Petersburg. Come and say good bye to him in person. If someone thought that he is a fake, then his murder by orders of Pipa (Putin) showed that he was for real.
80   richwicks   2023 Aug 23, 8:34pm  

Shaman says

Ukraine is about to surrender to Russia.
They put everything on defending Bahkmut and lost badly. They have little to nothing left, either soldiers or arms.
It’s over except for the talking.


It will go on for at least another year. Ukraine doesn't need a military really to continue the war. Russia isn't interested in going into Western Ukraine. I bet it ends up in a state of permanent war something like North and South Korea which are still technically at war.

Russia might slowly take over land to prevent Ukraine's access to the Black Sea, making it a landlocked nation. This will be done over years.

Ukraine has plenty of "mercenaries" fighting for them, from Poland, the United States, the UK, and god knows what. They aren't technically fighting for NATO, but they are fighting for NATO.
82   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Aug 29, 6:06am  

Trollhole says






media w
ants people to think red vs blue mentality. not ask why this war is happening, or if it should end.
84   Misc   2023 Sep 6, 8:12am  

RWSGFY says

https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1699052764230189512/mediaViewer


Says page doesn't exist. - Dunno if it was censored.
86   RWSGFY   2023 Oct 15, 11:17am  

Sums it up pretty damn good:


87   Tenpoundbass   2023 Oct 15, 11:37am  

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says

I have to tell you man, the weirdest part is how this same fucking guy is taking a selfie of the same fucking rocket in 4 different places. Every time. I kind of doubt this is a real thing even.


Missles are made and sold by the thousands and sit on a shelf for decades. Can you imagine in peace time, the Military industrial complex making the hardware, incentive they would have to make a dud out of 1 in so many Nth units produced? By time they are dropped and don't detonate. would the offending Power that shot the missle know and track if it did go off or not? If it didn't what audit would they have to go back to the manufacturer, without the munition itself, they would have no way to investigate if it was a QA issue, incompetence, or worse gross willful fraud to produce a dud that has no Shit in it.
Or would it be a simple case of an old missle that gave up the ghost and didn't work due to the inner parts deteriorating over the years?

I think our Military industrial complex has many and knows about them, kick backs were given based on the intent to do so. They are gladly getting them our of our arsenals to get rid of the liability of the ever encroaching Audit on the Department of Defense,
88   Wvs   2024 Sep 30, 6:20am  

richwicks says


Shaman says


Ukraine is about to surrender to Russia.
They put everything on defending Bahkmut and lost badly. They have little to nothing left, either soldiers or arms.
It’s over except for the talking.


It will go on for at least another year. Ukraine doesn't need a military really to continue the war. Russia isn't interested in going into Western Ukraine. I bet it ends up in a state of permanent war something like North and South Korea which are still technically at war.

Russia might slowly take over land to prevent Ukraine's access to the Black Sea, making it a landlocked nation. This will be done over years.

Ukraine has plenty of "mercenaries" fighting for them, from Poland, the United States, the UK, and god knows what. They aren't technically fighting for NATO, but they are fighting for NATO.



The comparison with Korea is an interesting perspective, but Ukraine and Russia are in a very different context. Unlike Korea, where there was a clear demarcation line, here both sides are actively fighting for territory, and neither seems ready to back down. While Russia may aim to seize strategic points, Ukraine is receiving significant international support, which complicates any long-term occupation plans.

As for 'mercenaries,' many foreign fighters supporting Ukraine do so on a volunteer basis, and their numbers are relatively small. This shouldn't be confused with direct NATO involvement. NATO is cautious about avoiding direct engagement, though support is coming in the form of arms supplies and economic aid, enabling Ukraine to keep resisting.

Predicting the long-term outcome of the conflict is difficult because the political and military landscape can shift rapidly. Ukraine remains determined to fight for its sovereignty, while Russia faces serious challenges on both the battlefield and in its economy.
89   WookieMan   2024 Sep 30, 7:46am  

In modern times I don't see Russia prevailing anymore. They might get some land. They're throwing peasants at the front line and eventually those dry up. They use aging equipment. We're talking a sliver of land they can't even control with supposedly the 2nd best military on the planet. We controlled 2 countries with minimal losses for 2 decades.

There will be no "winner" in this. I think Russia is going to take bigger losses now that Ukraine has been striking inside Russia. Ukraine already got trashed and they know how to live in that environment. Russians don't if transportation and power systems get knocked out. The modern Russian hasn't had to live without gas, electric or food. It's a rail centric country. Ukraine has been blowing it up. Eventually there will be a segment of Russians that say fuck off Putin.
90   socal2   2024 Sep 30, 8:14am  

Russian artillery killing Russian soldiers trying to surrender.

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1840083416416477484
91   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Sep 30, 9:42am  

socal2 says

Russian artillery killing Russian soldiers trying to surrender.

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1840083416416477484


Sure they did. Sure.

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