Inflation Beyond the Stars Thread for April 12

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2022 Apr 12, 12:49am   126,243 views  1,237 comments

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Since we know the numbers are going to suck since Peppermint Patty is leading the Amen Corner Media to blame Putin for it:

Frankly, I prefer my spaceship to have big tits and not fake inflated ones.

EDIT - numbers drop:
America goes back to the 80s: Surging gas prices and higher rents push inflation to 41-year high of 8.5% as White House blames it on Putin invading Ukraine
The consumer price index rose 8.5% in March from a year ago, the fastest increase since December 1981
Housing costs, which make up about a third of the index, have escalated and show no signs of cooling
Gasoline prices soared 49% in March from a year ago as the war in Ukraine rocked energy markets
Biden's administration tried to get ahead of the dire inflation news by blaming Russian leader Vladimir Putin
But Republicans place the blame for soaring prices on 'Democrats' reckless spending and failed policies'


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287   richwicks   2023 Mar 12, 10:41pm  

ad says

richwicks says

It's to prolong the war. This is a war of attrition. It's not meant to be won, it's being conducted to harm the "other side", in this case, Russia.

russia's debt has not increased much : https://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

gasoline prices are still averaging above $3 a gallon

I don't think for a moment that Russia is going to lose this war of attrition, but it's going to be long war with many many people killed. It will hurt the United States more than it will hurt Russia. This is typical of the Neocons, they're either fucking the stupidest people ever to gain power of this nation, or they are sabotaging it. Everything they do ends up harming this country.

The war is going to destroy Ukraine. Neocons I swear just like killing. I wouldn't have such a problem with the sociopathic assholes if anything they've done in the last 30 years could be considered a success by any measure.
288   AD   2023 Mar 12, 10:55pm  

richwicks says

It will hurt the United States more than it will hurt Russia.

I read $50 billion in 2022 and $45 billion in 2023 as far as USA federal government funding Ukraine

The US Navy and Marine Corps budget is about $250 billion in 2023, the Coast Guard is $14 billion in 2023

Not sure how much more the Repubs and Dems want to be funding Ukraine about $50 billion a year

At least the debt to gdp ratio is 120% after peaking around 135% in 2020, and it was 107% in march 2020 and averaged 101% during obama's 2nd term

So "inflating out of an economic crisis" is working in regards to the debt to gdp ratio return to pre pandemic levels


289   richwicks   2023 Mar 13, 12:42am  

ad says

At least the debt to gdp ratio is 120% after peaking around 135% in 2020, and it was 107% in march 2020 and averaged 101% during obama's 2nd term

So "inflating out of an economic crisis" is working in regards to the debt to gdp ratio return to pre pandemic levels

Why do you believe the statistics from a government that just told you inflation is temporary, that we had a deadly pandemic, and the 'vaccines' for it are safe and effective?
290   AD   2023 Mar 13, 11:26am  

richwicks says

Why do you believe the statistics from a government that just told you inflation is temporary, that we had a deadly pandemic, and the 'vaccines' for it are safe and effective?

so you think the united states government statistics like dept to gpd ratio, inflation (or CPI), and unemployment are lies ?

if they are not completely accurate, can we not use them as far as noticing trends ? or do you think they manipulate the data to show favorable trends ?

291   AD   2023 Mar 14, 2:12pm  


i know wolfman at wolfstreet . com tracks monthly and quarterly inflation, but at least annual inflation continues to trend downward


cnn's fear and greed index is at 26 out of 100, or very close to extreme fear

294   AD   2023 Mar 27, 12:16pm  

zzyzzx says


Labor market: Workers are getting two jobs amid inflation, says industry watcher

will see how this plays out with CPI dropping to below 5% by this summer ... it is currently 6% and peaked around 9.1% last summer ...

i hope wage increases catch up some with housing costs within the next 2 to 3 years ...

295   AmericanKulak   2023 Mar 27, 12:24pm  

Ticky Tack Shacks are ridiculously overpriced, exceeding peak 2006 prices.

Lots of near retirees don't want to hear it, but it's true.

Foreigners won't save the market, and foreigners are concentrated where the H1B jobs are, they are not evenly distributed across the USA, but concentrated in tech and "back office" cities like SFBA, Boston, Raleigh, etc. There are a pitiful fraction of potential homebuyers, the vast majority are around 2 person households, DINKs and Single HoMoms.
296   HeadSet   2023 Mar 27, 1:12pm  

ad says

i hope wage increases catch up some with housing costs within the next 2 to 3 years ...

I do not. I would rather see house prices fall to be affordable at current wages.
301   AD   2023 Apr 1, 12:59am  

This is the second time I received from Ace Hardware a coupon ($5 off for $25 or more purchase). I also noticed Amazon has a lot of deals going like an additional 5% plus free shipping.

Most of the "luxury" apartments (vinyl planking, quartz counter tops, free internet service, pool, gym, etc.) in Panama City Beach are offering free month of rent for 13 month lease.

Gas is about $2.90 a gallon when it was nearly $4.90 a gallon last year.

I also noticed food prices at Walmart on 23rd street in Panama City have remained flat for at least 4 months like $2.60 for 12 eggs, $1.20 for a pound of chicken legs, $2 for box of Great Value corn flakes, $4.25 for gallon of milk, $1.10 for loaf of Great Value wheat bread, etc. Its about the same price for food at Piggly Wiggly in Panama City.

Also I notice Tucktec is keeping its kayak prices steady. I bought my yellow one for around $320 back in 2021 and I see the new ones are at $350 now.

302   AD   2023 Apr 1, 10:36pm  

Money supply was $4,000 billion at start of COVID pandemic. It is $19,300 billion now.

The Fed selling its assets like Treasuries as part of quantitative tightening is helping some to reduce money supply.

Money supply and interest rates have an inverse relationship. A larger money supply lowers market interest rates, making it less expensive for consumers to borrow. Conversely, smaller money supplies tend to raise market interest rates, making it pricier for consumers to take out a loan.

304   AD   2023 Apr 4, 10:45am  

I noticed prices dropping at Amazon. I just bought a saltwater and freshwater fly rod set for $70 on Amazon. It includes 8 flies and a fly tackle box as well as a carrying case for the rod set. It was selling for $90 a few months ago.

Then I read this article below about California's Inland Empire expecting major job cuts to Amazon, Walmart, etc. warehouses there.


305   HeadSet   2023 Apr 4, 11:25am  

ad says

I noticed prices dropping at Amazon.

I noticed that prices for bike accessories and computer RAM have fallen also. Wonder if the prices will fall for autos soon.
306   AD   2023 Apr 4, 9:21pm  


Job market is cooling some, which will reduce risk of inflation. My immediate inflation concern is about the Saudis cutting oil production now.



"The U.S. labor market is definitively cooling off," says Nick Bunker, head of economic research at the hiring lab for Indeed, a top online job board.

Since there were 5.9 million unemployed Americans in February, the 9.9 million vacancies amounted to 1.7 available jobs for each unemployed person, down from a near-record 1.9 openings in January.

Openings declined by a whopping 278,000 in professional and business services; 210,000 in trade, transportation and utilities; 150,000 in health care; and 87,000 in leisure and hospitality.
307   Patrick   2023 Apr 6, 8:53pm  


I've been bashing the "there's no inflation, inflation is too low, we need more inflation, inflation is transitory, inflation is good for you, it's Putin's inflation, we need to raise the inflation target" animals for 10 years online. Anytime there's a discussion of inflation, the only ones calling for more are inbred economists, people who own lots of [levered] assets, people who make a living off of either of these groups, & kids still living at home. The other 90% will chew your ear off about the high cost of living.
308   AD   2023 Apr 7, 1:06am  

Patrick says

people who own lots of [levered] asset

Yes, if you own real estate then you will see appreciation in value. Rental property owners benefit.

I know someone who bought a townhome (3 bedrm, 2.5 bath, 2 car garage, 2 miles to beach) in my HOA for $115,000 in 2011. It sold for $275,000 in 2006. Only put in about $7,000 into renovation just after buying it.

He rents it now for $2100 a month (and could probably get away with $2300 but his tenant has been there since 2011).

He rented it for $1500 in 2016.


309   AD   2023 Apr 7, 1:30am  


Again, more bad news as this may put help to reduce inflation. We'll see how the job numbers are in tomorrow's Bureau of Labor Statistics jobs report.



The note from UBS Evidence Lab shows private bankruptcy filings in 2023 have exceeded the highest point recorded during the early stages of the COVID pandemic by a considerable amount. The four-week moving average for private filings in late February was 73 percent higher than in June 2020.

310   zzyzzx   2023 Apr 11, 5:24am  


Billionaire investor Barry Sternlicht says inflation is going to ‘drop hard’—just look at rents

Personally, I will believe it when I see it.
311   AD   2023 Apr 11, 1:39pm  

cisTits says

How would this help reduce inflation?

More private (or personal) bankruptcies mean people will reduce consumption. It may mean a 30 year old former technology startup owner moving back to live with their parents for a couple of years to recover from this.

This puts less demand on housing since they leave their apartment and move into their parent's home.

They also may refrain from their indulgent consumer lifestyle for a couple of years after having filed bankruptcy. Hence, this results in less demand for the latest Apple product and other consumer goods sold on Apple store or Amazon.

Perhaps they default on their car loan and their repossessed 2 year old car gets put on the used car market. That is an additional car on the market, hence increasing supply of used vehicles.

312   AD   2023 Apr 11, 11:28pm  

Cal - Maine Foods is a major egg producer. Look at its dividend of nearly 9%.

313   AD   2023 Apr 30, 10:25am  



M2 money supply which includes savings accounts and certificates of deposit has taken a major drop recently.

This could help to decrease demand enough to slow down the rate of inflation.

My cousin works for Dotty's in Las Vegas and she has noticed a major decrease in tips over about the last 6 months. Also she works part time and has noticed that the full time workers are calling in sick less and taking less unpaid time off because they need as many work days as possible.

316   AD   2023 May 7, 11:36am  

Interesting as the big techs tighten their budget belt and do go on hiring spree in order to prevent tech workers from working at their competiton....

This should reduce the rate of inflation as there is less money for them to buy shit on Amazon and buy second homes in Sedona, Arizona, Breckinridge, Colorado, Boise, etc.... anybody saw the recent M2 money supply graph lately ?


317   HeadSet   2023 May 7, 1:13pm  

ad says

anybody saw the recent M2 money supply graph lately ?

318   REpro   2023 May 7, 2:57pm  

Patrick says

And take back more than they gave you.
319   AD   2023 May 7, 7:30pm  

Trucking industry says we are in a trucking recession. Lesser trucks on the road means the price of diesel (and also gas) should go down.


320   AD   2023 May 7, 7:34pm  

Also the Baltic Dry Bulk Index is a good indicator for forecast a recession seems to have stalled after bottoming recently to around 550.

322   AD   2023 May 8, 10:03pm  

Patrick says


That is why people have to downgrade in other areas to afford housing such as eat less quality food, and not go on vacation.

Or they have to lower their housing standards like share their home with a roommate.

All of this is just quality of life or standard of living getting progressively reduced as annual wage growth is +1% less than CPI :-(

324   AD   2023 May 10, 4:46pm  

CPI (or 12 month inflation)is 4.9% for April 2023. CPI peaked around 9.1% back in June 2022.

I suspect the CPI for June 2023 will be much lower than 4.9% given how high prices were in June 2022.

What is promising is the Fed Funds rate is at 5.25% and is finally higher than CPI. This is the first time this has happened since 2007.

Recall CPI averaged 1.5% for Obama's 8 years in office, yet the Fed Funds rate was kept for about 7.5 years at 0.25%.

325   AD   2023 May 10, 4:50pm  

zzyzzx says

Framing Lumber Prices Down 57% YoY, Below Pre-Pandemic Levels

Lumber is at 2005 price levels. This will help to drive down housing costs.

I wonder also if this price drop in lumber is in part due to a 20% drop in housing construction.


326   HeadSet   2023 May 10, 5:56pm  

ad says

Lumber is at 2005 price levels. This will help to drive down housing costs.

Lower lumber costs will not lower house costs as the cost of labor more than makes up for it. Talk to someone who recently contracted a home improvement.

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