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Inflation Beyond the Stars Thread for April 12


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2022 Apr 12, 12:49am   146,573 views  1,539 comments

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Since we know the numbers are going to suck since Peppermint Patty is leading the Amen Corner Media to blame Putin for it:
https://patrick.net/post/1344548/2022-04-11-putin-s-price-hike-failing-administrati

Frankly, I prefer my spaceship to have big tits and not fake inflated ones.

EDIT - numbers drop:
America goes back to the 80s: Surging gas prices and higher rents push inflation to 41-year high of 8.5% as White House blames it on Putin invading Ukraine
The consumer price index rose 8.5% in March from a year ago, the fastest increase since December 1981
Housing costs, which make up about a third of the index, have escalated and show no signs of cooling
Gasoline prices soared 49% in March from a year ago as the war in Ukraine rocked energy markets
Biden's administration tried to get ahead of the dire inflation news by blaming Russian leader Vladimir Putin
But Republicans place the blame for soaring prices on 'Democrats' reckless spending and failed policies'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10711311/Inflation-soars-new-41-year-high-8-5.html?source=patrick.net

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374   AD   2023 Aug 19, 4:12pm  

Patrick says

The cost of everything depends on the cost of energy.

Biden shut down Keystone XL on the first day of his illegitimate regime after the mass election fraud of 2020.


look at oil rig count on Y charts... its all by design seeing gas prices increase now ...

I wonder we will see if rig count peak again in November 2024 like we did in November 2022 ...

this time Birdbrain Biden can't tap the strategic reserves since he depleted them leading up to the November 2022 midterm election
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375   AD   2023 Aug 20, 11:54am  

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Goods consumption is at or below the trend line. I think we may have a recession by end of this year if they force another COVID lockdown.

If yes, then its all rigged or staged to get the economy to crash by end of year, and then Birdbrain Biden proclaims the economy is recovering by August 2024.

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378   AD   2023 Aug 23, 5:02pm  

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Consumers buying less laptop computers and appliances, and buying more airline tickets, hotel stays, and music concert tickets.

That's why there is a trucking recession right now. Retail has dropped off. Best Buy stock is down about 45%.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/23/business/nightcap-consumer-spending-us-econ/index.html

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379   Misc   2023 Aug 23, 5:15pm  

Ye[, purchasing PMI just came out today. It was barely positive coming in at 51.
380   AD   2023 Aug 23, 5:40pm  

Misc says


Ye[, purchasing PMI just came out today. It was barely positive coming in at 51.


Looks like heading into another recession :-/

When does a recession start ? around 45 ?
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381   Misc   2023 Aug 23, 10:08pm  

As of 8/23/23, it is no longer forecasted to be "Inflation beyond the Stars". The yield on the 10 year bond is 4.21% and inflation over the next 10 years according to the bond gurus is gonna be 2.37%. Over the last few years, not only was inflation gonna be super low, but government bond holders were willing to accept a negative real rate of return on their treasury holdings. Now they want a real rate of return of 1.84% annually over those ten years.

Mortgage rates are about 7.5% for 30 year conforming loans. We could have these "HIGH" rates for decades.

This means a permanent decrease in living standards for younger Americans. House prices do not have to fall because interest rates go up. Neither do higher education costs. Recent college grads could have a $100k education loan at 2% now that exact same program is at 5.5%. The yearly interest differential is easy to figure out. Loans for new vehicles (only the highest paid segment of society can afford the payments and maintain the other niceties of living in a 1st world country).

Disillusionment is already rampant among the young. Looks like they will be stamped as being 2nd rate citizens through no fault of their own.
382   AD   2023 Aug 23, 10:38pm  

Misc says


This means a permanent decrease in living standards for younger Americans.


Can still build affordable housing such as 1200 square foot townhomes or rowhouses with 3 bedroom and 2 bath. Just need the local governments to approve and the developers to build. Housing is the biggest factor right now as far as standard of living, followed by health care insurance and access.

Mortgage rates are driven largely by inflation. So if inflation goes down then won't mortgage rates eventually catch up with inflation (which means following CPI and PCE).

I understand the 30 year mortgage rate also tracks the 10 year Treasury: https://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/mortgage-rates/30yr-treasuries

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383   Misc   2023 Aug 23, 11:29pm  

Inflation is forecast to be about 3/8 of a percent above the 2% target the Fed has set. So pretty close to what the Fed wants. Sure if the Fed drops inflation by that much then mortgage rates should decline that much...all else being equal. That still leaves about a 7% mortgage rate and who knows bond holders may want more than the 1.84% real rate of return on their investment. We just came out of a really weird time where Central banks forced bond holders to accept negative rates of return (after inflation for the US), but even a nominal loss for the Eurozone & Japan bonds. Mortgage rates track inflation, but the real rate of return the bondholders want on the 10 year has gone from about negative 2 percent to about a positive 2 percent, and given the low rates the Central Banks crammed down, the current mortgages just seem high.

In the US we have 30 year fixed rate mortgages because our forefathers didn't trust bankers. Here in the US as the rates rise there is generally less debt issued as it becomes more expensive. In the Eurozone with their variable rate mortgages, rate increases immediately suck cashflow from the family budget (with a certain lag).
384   richwicks   2023 Aug 23, 11:36pm  

Misc says

Inflation is forecast to be about 3/8 of a percent above the 2% target the Fed has set. So pretty close to what the Fed wants.


Why do you believe anything they say at this point? They've been lying about inflation for 20 years. They lie about literally everything. You must be aware of this.

They lowball a number, it's bullshit, they backwards revise it at the ministry of truth.

Start saving their predictions, literally, and the date, and then a few years later, see how far they were actually off by looking of the number being reported by Google or them or whatever, later.
385   Misc   2023 Aug 23, 11:55pm  

Until just recently inflation had been below the Fed's target rate since the Great Recession. They were struggling to get inflation up. The problem was they were concentrating on the CPI and ignoring the rampant inflation in real estate and stocks.

Who coulda known that giving away free trillions of dollars could cause the CPI to go nuts??
386   AD   2023 Aug 24, 9:20am  

Misc says


Who coulda known that giving away free trillions of dollars could cause the CPI to go nuts??


Yeah, Wolfman at Wolf Street website was warning about asset inflation and how that would lead to inflation as people feel more rich with their inflated stock gains, and willing to spend more on the latest AirBnB vacation rental, Mac Book, etc.

But everything has to eventually to settle and return to the mean. Historical rules and metrics ultimately are what significantly matter.

Housing has gone up 4% a year since the late 1940's according to Robert Shiller.

The stock market in general goes up about 5% to 7% above inflation each year over the long run.

Housing costs should not be more than 37% of household income.

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387   HeadSet   2023 Aug 24, 12:42pm  

ad says

Housing costs should not be more than 37% of household income.

Yes, but that should be calculated with a 20 year mortgage. All the 30 year mortgage did is cause and keep going house inflation.
388   Bd6r   2023 Aug 24, 12:49pm  

Ammo prices are down 20-40% on ammoseek.com. 22 LR can be found for 4 cents/round, while 6 months ago it was difficult to find anything below 9 cents. Time to stock up!
389   AD   2023 Aug 24, 1:09pm  

Bd6r says

Ammo prices are down 20-40% on ammoseek.com. 22 LR can be found for 4 cents/round, while 6 months ago it was difficult to find anything below 9 cents. Time to stock up!


I remember about 18 months ago when the cheapest cost was around $1 for 9 mm.

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390   The_Deplorable   2023 Aug 24, 1:34pm  

Misc says
"House prices do not have to fall because interest rates go up. Neither do higher education costs."

So... what happened to Supply And Demand?

Did the Globalists abolish Supply And Demand? Or is it because Supply and Demand does not apply to monopolies?
392   AD   2023 Aug 24, 5:49pm  

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And now Dollar Tree is reporting problems with store theft.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/24/business/dollar-tree-theft-earnings/index.html

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393   richwicks   2023 Aug 25, 1:57am  

ad says


And now Dollar Tree is reporting problems with store theft.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/24/business/dollar-tree-theft-earnings/index.html


That's goddamned sad. I shop at dollar tree every now and then, and the people there you can see aren't doing well. Imagine being so desperate you're stealing a $4 pizza or $1 plate or drinking glass?

Their dish-soap sucks by the way. It's all water. I just use it to clean off the worst of a plate before I dump it into a dishwasher with a soap wand. I guess it works well enough, but I wouldn't buy it again.
394   Booger   2023 Aug 25, 3:11am  

richwicks says

Their dish-soap sucks by the way.


Their cough drops don't work either.
395   zzyzzx   2023 Aug 25, 4:43am  

Booger says

Their cough drops don't work either.


I don't trust any Dollar store medicines now either.
396   HeadSet   2023 Aug 25, 7:46am  

richwicks says

Imagine being so desperate you're stealing a $4 pizza or $1 plate or drinking glass?

Do not fall for the lefty line that thieves steal to feed their families. That would be believable if foodstuffs were taken. I suspect that Dollar Store thefts are done by the case or truckload by insiders or pros. After all, who would do a grab bag of stuff they could only fence for a few bucks? I also suspect that "seepage" may be used as an excuse by managers of poor performing stores.
397   AD   2023 Aug 25, 10:20am  

HeadSet says

After all, who would do a grab bag of stuff they could only fence for a few bucks?


There is enough desperate people like the homeless who would do this. Also people take a few items because they know they can easily get away with the theft.

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398   AD   2023 Aug 25, 10:36am  

richwicks says

That's goddamned sad. I shop at dollar tree every now and then, and the people there you can see aren't doing well. Imagine being so desperate you're stealing a $4 pizza or $1 plate or drinking glass?


It also might be that much of a societal norms or culture change for thefts like this to be common. People's character is that they are more likely to not hesitate to steal. Some or all of this may be driven by socieoeconomics.

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399   Misc   2023 Aug 25, 2:56pm  

In France, their inflation rate is higher than here in the States. In true Socialist tradition, instead of letting prices decline, they have instead decided to destroy over production.

Yes, great financial minds of the Eurocrat bureaucrats at work.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/france-to-spend-over-215m-to-destroy-surplus-wine-as-demand-continues-to-plummet/ar-AA1fMu1D?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=c8b61181810a44139cf75df2ba1eadda&ei=18
403   AD   2023 Aug 25, 4:05pm  

AmericanKulak says

But Republicans place the blame for soaring prices on 'Democrats' reckless spending and failed policies'


Oil companies are not adding new rigs since they claim they do not want to expand given Biden's energy policies. They claim it would be too risky to explore and add more rigs in an environment that is anti-oil and gas.

Florida Power and Light continues to increase electric rates while natural gas remains at a constant price; one major reason is that they keep building more solar power sites. FPL has adopted the Democrats position on renewable energy.

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404   AD   2023 Aug 26, 9:22pm  

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T-mobile to lay off 5000 from corporate and support offices, but not frontline or retail employees, total employee reduction represents 7% of workforce.

I wonder if we'll start to see more layoffs and an increase in unemployment toward the end of this year, and if CPI and PCE will drop accordingly.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/08/25/t-mobile-layoffs-cut-workers-jobs-nationwide/70680602007/

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405   Misc   2023 Aug 27, 11:01pm  

Oh sure, they'll lower the price of their cell phone plans.
406   Booger   2023 Aug 28, 7:48am  

ad says


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T-mobile to lay off 5000 from corporate and support offices, but not frontline or retail employees, total employee reduction represents 7% of workforce.

I wonder if we'll start to see more layoffs and an increase in unemployment toward the end of this year, and if CPI and PCE will drop accordingly.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/08/25/t-mobile-layoffs-cut-workers-jobs-nationwide/70680602007/

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In April 2020, T-Mobile and Sprint Corporation, merged to create a new T-Mobile, with the goal of giving customers access to faster speeds and better service at lower prices.

Just a year prior, then CEO John Legere touted that the merger would create more new, high quality, high paying jobs from day one.

"That’s not just a promise. That’s not just a commitment. It’s a fact," Legere wrote on T-Mobile's website.

Clearly that was a lie. Anyone thinking that a merger wouldn't result in layoffs is a moron.
407   AD   2023 Aug 28, 11:07am  

Booger says


Clearly that was a lie. Anyone thinking that a merger wouldn't result in layoffs is a moron.


I'm reading more people are tapping into their 401K's. I know of one way to do this, which is called SEPP.

And this news about 401K's somewhat relates to the T-Mobile layoffs of white collar jobs.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/08/economy/401k-hardship-withdrawals/index.html

Maybe we'll see a drop in restaurant prices, vacation rental prices, etc. and consequently a drop in PCE and CPI, especially for services as white collar people will be more prudent consumers.

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409   Booger   2023 Aug 29, 10:13am  

ad says

Maybe we'll see a drop in restaurant prices, vacation rental prices,


I am sitting on the beach at the Jersey shore right now. I booked well in advance and got a great rate. I usually have to wait until September to get rates this cheap. Of course if I wait until last week or something it would have cost $80/night more.
411   AD   2023 Aug 29, 1:47pm  

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Car prices down due to lower demand (because of car loan interest rates rising) and also increased supply of newer automobiles.


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/car-market-just-flipped-10-130024504.html

The average price for a new vehicle in July was $44,700, a massive flip of $3,243 compared to the price in January, as reported by Kelley Blue Book. Prices have fallen by 1.7% since the start of the year, marking the first significant decline in car prices since supply shortages began affecting the industry in 2021.

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412   AD   2023 Aug 30, 5:18pm  

1) Weaker than expected jobs growth for August 2023 report: https://www.usnews.com/news/economy/articles/2023-08-30/adp-employers-add-fewer-jobs-than-expected-as-hospitality-sector-slows

2) Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia data seems to show recession has started: https://mishtalk.com/economics/philadelphia-fed-gdpplus-measure-sure-looks-like-recession-started-in-2022-q4/

See the above 2 links. More layoffs such as 7% of T mobile's white collar workforce means less middle to upper class who can go on vacation, buy a new car, etc.

It does not help that the Fed Funds rate is at 22 year high. But this tells me inflation should continue to trend downward.

I predict an unemployment rate of at least 5% by spring 2024, but there may be a lot of manipulation and lying such as reporting an economic recovery by late summer 2024.

Its all about the Dems keeping the White House, and they can't cheat enough to win an election during a recession.

So expect a lot of continued lies about the economy such as inflation and economic growth at least through early November 2024..

The problem is the Dems control everything from the federal bureaucracy that calculate the economic statistics to the mainstream media outlets that report what is spoon fed to them by the Birdbrain Biden admin.

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