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Would tracking your IP address (every remote worker is going to be working on a computer) give your working locationThe ADU has a little server room that hosts VPN software. ADU renters would get access to the VPN so it looks like you have a local IP address.
away to your boss/IT department? If so, would this kill the idea?
https://www.hcd.ca.gov/policy-research/accessorydwellingunits.shtml?source=patrick.net#adu
3) Yes or No? Would tracking your IP address (every remote worker is going to be working on a computer) give your working location
1) would you have to pay taxes to 2 different states?
Nobody would notice the continuous rotation of occupants or if you stuff 5 or 10 people in the ADU.
The ADU has a little server room that hosts VPN software. ADU renters would get access to the VPN so it looks like you have a local IP address
Aren't there laws regulating how many people can legally live in a unit of a certain size?
Sure, slumlords violate them all the time, but if we are talking "strictly above the board" model this would be one of the obstacles.
READ. I already explained all this. Twice now, I think.
You have not explained Jack SHIT
You put together a loosely hobble thought about using your shed out back and putting in a bunch of computers and a fast internet connection, and then renting those remote workstations out as physical locations
dishonest scofflaws to use around the country to evade local, state and Federal income taxes.
All we're trying to do is understand what we already read, do you want input or not? If
I would be bet that people are asking questions or making comments because it sounds like a workable idea. If the idea were to hold up, I'd be very interested in investing/partnering.
Why do you need an ADU?
Why not just set everything up in a SFH inside the main house?
The ADU most likely wont have its own address number,
And to answer your question about the IRS laws being broken, just wait until they audit and find out you don't actually have an Office that you're adding to your itemized deductions.
<--- fact, not opinion. You really fucked up TPB. It is embarrassing to see.
WineHorror1 says3) Yes or No? Would tracking your IP address (every remote worker is going to be working on a computer) give your working location
Who is going to track it? And it can be spoofed with a VPN. My VPN shows me being in Toronto, Ontario, for example.
you say you would put remote access in the ADU(from what I found that's a shed or a detached dwelling, am I correct?).
You really didn't explain who your customer would be,
You then accuse them not reading it
you're not looking for advice, opinions, or collaboration on your idea.
OK great one! Enlighten me, why in the fuck would I load my fucking shed out back up with hundreds of remote access,
Here's the thing here, you'll need two VPNs. The first is the one which boots up with your desktop and the 2nd, for the work itself (usually given by your firm's IT dept) on the same hardware. Sometimes, these things can conflict in terms of security settings between the differing software tools.
A better way is to get a Virtual Hosting Server where in effect, your workstation is on a server farm somewhere in California and then, using your home PC, you log onto your virtualized workstation & then, you separate your work & home computing environments completely. By doing all, all your IT updates and packages get delivered to a remote desktop far away from home and then, your IT dept knows nothing about you.
I believe the objective of the post is to earn higher California pay and pay lower rent in a cheaper housing preferably in a state with no income tax.
I think the ADU scheme would work.
But would subletting your own house also accomplish the same thing? And how many times can you sublet your house? Is there a limit?
Because the real purpose of this arrangement is secure a legitimate physical mailing address where mail and documents can be delivered and residence established. An enterprising home owner could “sublet” in this way to as many remote workers as nece
The math difference can be immense. $200k vs $120k or even less. So if there are complications with the home office deduction from this...guess what, fucking forgoing said deduction is probably more than worth it
This is the kind of math I want to know more about. At what numbers does it make sense for someone to want to do this? Once we know the numbers, we can then target the client base and market. It would be a good idea to partner with, or have on retainer(?), an excellent tax attorney/preparer.
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Ppl work from the out of state secondary homes all the time, ppl. So Podonkia will collect my property taxes on it and just call it a day.
There are generally rules against renting to groups where the number of people is greater than (the number of bedrooms + 1).
Could be a problem.
It sounds like you are renting out your address more than renting out a space to a variety of John Does, with the space itself as a pretense for temporary rental.
. I can't see keeping something like this 'under the radar'.
Homeowners tax exemption is something to factor in. Not a huge break anyway, but you'd have to pay higher property taxes in Podonkia if I'm following correctly. So primary is in high pay CA, but you don't actually live there and can utilize the space when required for the occasional quarterly meeting to stay at or whatever and earn more money because of COL. Spouse can work in income tax free Podonkia AND your house is substantially cheaper than CA. So the $300/mo on the ADU is not a big deal.
but it's not 100% clear to be honest.
If they know you live in Milton, FL where you can get a $200-250k house, they pay you less working remotely?
You get the job and say you live at 123 Maple Ave in San Francisco at the ADU.
You get your 6 figure job in CA and have a cheap house/COL somewhere else.
If married spouse can work in FL and have no income tax, while you still technically live in CA and pay their taxes.
On the business side you're renting out a single ADU to multiple people in CA and raking in some income
IRS will flag that shit in a second if 50 people write off a lease at the same address and it's discovered it's an ADU.
Patrick saysThere are generally rules against renting to groups where the number of people is greater than (the number of bedrooms + 1).
Could be a problem.
Where is that happening when the landlord is only renting out to a single tenant, the LLC or whatever? :)
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Note: That means you have to actually fucking read through this and familiarize yourself with the details. Don't post critiques that only prove that you didn't do so. I will rip you a new asshole if you do.
But otherwise...rip away:
Can't wait until someone figures out a way to get people to rent their ADUs out to a firm that then sublets it to 50+ remote workers. That way, they can all say they work in Palo Alto, etc, pay CA income taxes...the works. They have official residence status and get paid Cali wages. But the ADU won't be physically used except on a first-come-first-served basis for when any of those subletters have to actually show up for one of the times they have to be in town. And it is not like the neighbors will notice this and complain to authorities, like they occasionally do when they notice apartments have 8 people living in them. There will only be one or maybe two people staying at the ADU at any given time, as is legal to do.
I would pay $300/month for that. Esp if I moved to a no-income tax state.
$300/month for 50 subletters = $15,000/month for the ADU. I am surprised homeowners haven't set up an LLC to do just that with their ADUs.
Again, before some of you pick holes in nothing because you didn't pay attention to the above details (which are everything):
ADU owner 'rents out' his unit to an LLC/Corp entity. Esp an out-of-state one, preferably. That firm then sublets the flying fuck out of it to 50+ remote workers. Think of this as sort of like a remote worker AirBnB. It's like a timeshare, where if the subletters want to actually use it, then they have to reserve it and pay a cleaning fee, etc to use it for a short period of time. All reserved up so other subletters can't use it when they want to? Easy, they go to Motel 6 while in town. Early bird gets the fucking worm, assholes!
This way the unit is legally rented out to one tenant as far as what the homeowner is on the hook to report or care about, technically. Even if the homeowner owns the tenant legal entity.
I suppose that the State would figure out that 50+ people 'live' there because of what they report on their tax forms and driver licenses, etc. But apartments with 10+ people also show up in those records (migrants...both legal and illegal) and they don't give a fuck about that.
Any other holes in this?