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Active Shooter link to Marijuana use


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2022 Jun 7, 9:40am   3,015 views  40 comments

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Cannabis and the Violent Crime Surge

Heavy marijuana use among youths is leading to more addiction and antisocial behavior.

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Alex Berenson, author of “Tell Your Children: The Truth About Marijuana, Mental Illness and Violence,” pointed out that the New York Times had curiously removed from an article about the Uvalde school shooting a former co-worker’s recollection that he complained about his grandmother not letting him smoke weed. The Times didn’t append a correction to the story as it might be expected to do when fixing a factual inaccuracy.

Assuming the elided detail was accurate, it would fit a pattern. Mass shooters at Rep. Gibby Giffords’s constituent meeting in Tucson, Ariz. (2011), a movie theater in Aurora, Colo. (2012), the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Fla. (2016), the First Baptist church in Sutherland Springs, Texas (2017), and Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla. (2018), were reported to be marijuana users. It could be a coincidence, but increasing evidence suggests a connection.

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One in 6 people who start using pot while under 18 will develop an addiction, which doctors call “cannabis use disorder.” As they use the drug more frequently to satisfy cravings, they develop psychological and social problems.

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Roneet Lev, an addiction specialist who previously led the Emergency Department at Scripps Mercy Hospital in San Diego, said in a recent interview with the American Council on Science and Health that California cannabis emergency-room visits climbed 53% in the three years after the state legalized recreational marijuana in 2016. Daily marijuana emergency-room visits in San Diego nearly quadrupled between 2014 and 2019.

Cannabis-induced psychosis, she said, is fairly common. Some patients she treated experienced cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome from long-term use, which causes “scromiting”—screaming and vomiting. There’s no antidote. Some patients spend weeks in the emergency room waiting for placement in mental-health clinics.

Countless studies have also linked chronic cannabis use to schizophrenia. A meta-analysis in January examining 591 studies concluded that early marijuana use among adolescents was associated with a significant increase in the risk of developing schizophrenia. Researchers have yet to prove a causal relationship, but the weight of evidence is hard to dismiss.

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Young people are especially vulnerable to cannabis’s effects because their brains are still developing. Scientists in a recent study reviewed scans of teenagers’ brains before and after they started using pot. They found that parts of the brain involved in decision making and morality judgments were altered in pot users compared to nonusers.

But can pot make people violent? A study last year found that young people with such mood disorders as depression who were also addicted to pot were 3.2 times more likely to commit self-harm and die of homicide—often after initiating violence—than those who weren’t. A meta-analysis found the risk of perpetrating violence was more than twice as high for young adults who used marijuana. It’s possible that pot can trigger dangerous behavior in youths who may be predisposed to it for other reasons such as prenatal exposure to drugs.

Also worrisome, legalization seems to be leading to more pregnant women using pot. About 20% of pregnant young women in California tested positive for marijuana in 2016. THC crosses the placenta and can impair neurological development. Prenatal exposure to marijuana has been linked to behavioral problems, mental illness and lower academic achievement in children and adolescents.

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/cannabis-and-the-violent-crime-surge-marijuana-pot-use-thc-shootings-psychosis-mental-11654540197?st=bd2v1x3z4alvp4t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

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1   NuttBoxer   2022 Jun 7, 10:33am  

Wow, this is some dark ages shit. Just get it over and pull out the link to Reefer Madness.

Did you know only dirty Mexicans smoke Mary Juana!? Did you know MaryJuana is used by Nigger Jazz players to seduce white virgins!?!?

Are you a distant relative of Hurst or something?
2   Ceffer   2022 Jun 7, 11:31am  

That MKUltra marijuana must be some good sheeeeat!
3   AmericanKulak   2022 Jun 7, 11:54am  

I used to think this was bullshit, but there is clearly a non-insignificant number of people for whom marijuana leads down a path to permateen/loser status and even easy suggestibility and irritability that makes them vulnerable to further acts of stupidity and crime.

Source: Personal experience.
4   WookieMan   2022 Jun 7, 12:24pm  

I think timing is the biggest thing. Sure smoking up when you're 14 is probably not going to end well. I did, but I was athletic and it wasn't time consuming or ruled my life.

Fast forward to today. Almost everyone I know consumes. Most white collar professionals. They all get their shit done. I'll take 5-20mg a day now. It's also not addictive. Went a week without it recently and didn't even think about it. Forgot I ran out.

Key is to not just get blasted when you eat or smoke it. Take small amounts and it's a total anxiety/stress reliever. Helps with some pain too I'm dealing with (shoulder).

Either way, weed is not the mitigating factor in any of these shootings. Most, if not all were on something else or had shit parents. Weed is not remotely something that makes you kill people.

Parents are the biggest factor in all of these shootings. They either had them, didn't or had shitty ones. Weed is not an issue in this. They were likely using weed to counteract the shit drugs prescribed to them and happened to be in their system.
5   Ceffer   2022 Jun 7, 12:33pm  

Like, man, does that really matter? What matters, matters, and what doesn't matter, doesn't really matter, man, after all Huff Choke! the Cosmos and all. I'm confused.
6   Eric Holder   2022 Jun 7, 12:54pm  

NuttBoxer says


Wow, this is some dark ages shit. Just get it over and pull out the link to Reefer Madness.



“People who have taken large doses of the drug may experience an acute psychosis, which includes hallucinations, delusions, and a loss of the sense of personal identity,” the National Institutes of Health notes: https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/how-does-marijuana-produce-its-effects

NuttBoxer says



Did you know only dirty Mexicans smoke Mary Juana!? Did you know MaryJuana is used by Nigger Jazz players to seduce white virgins!?!?

Are you a distant relative of Hurst or something?


Why so much butthurt?
7   Ceffer   2022 Jun 7, 1:21pm  

All the well trodden and forgotten paths leading to new wounds, old thinking. Drugs are harmless. Drugs cause damage. Drugs are good for you. Drugs are bad for you.
The bottom line is drugs, especially the addictive ones, make piles of money for somebody who doesn't give a shit about your life or the consequences, but will tell you anything they think you will believe to continue using them.
8   mell   2022 Jun 7, 1:41pm  

Anything abused can lead to harmful consequences, I certainly do not recommend frequent MJ use, esp. not as a kid/teenager. Once or twice or three times a week fine. I don't believe there is a connection to mass shooters besides the occasional hallucination/paranoia from abuse which can lead to all sorts of weird behavior, but many if not most drugs can cause this if abused. It's more likely a reverse causation, that already otherwise troubled people are more likely to toke a lot lot.
9   NuttBoxer   2022 Jun 7, 2:07pm  

Eric Holder says

“People who have taken large doses of the drug may experience an acute psychosis, which includes hallucinations, delusions, and a loss of the sense of personal identity,” the National Institutes of Health notes: https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/how-does-marijuana-produce-its-effects



The government who classifies it as schedule 1.

You know what a psychedelic is right? Would you take one if you were in a bad head space and expect good results? This kid was already fucked up, brainwashed, and until I see a toxicology report that proves otherwise, on anti-depressants. I've smoked too much cannabis, and I've smoke Sativa's. Too much just makes you sleepy, and trip longer. Sativa does mess with your head, but in both instances I had no urge to kill anyone.

The only recorded acts of murder where the person did not do it out of self-defense have been under the influence of real drugs, or been done by sociopaths. I don't see indications this kid was the latter, so it was definitely the former. We have case after case confirming that's the most likely scenario. So I'm not jumping into the wayback machine of pretending Cannabis is evil so I can sell newspapers printed on trees and be a racist asshole.
10   NuttBoxer   2022 Jun 7, 2:14pm  

mell says

It's more likely a reverse causation, that already otherwise troubled people are more likely to toke a lot lot.


As an escape from reality, possibly. Had a relative who did that after their wife died quite young. Not good as he avoided dealing with the pain, but better than alcohol, or getting on any real drugs(big pharma). Bottom line, if all this kid did was smoke pot, don't care how much, if you don't know why read what the endocannibinoid system in your body is used for, none of this would have happened.

So take this 30's government propaganda elsewhere, unless you also plan to start putting asbestos in your ceiling, buy cocaine and speed from the pharmacy for your house wife, and keeping a bottle of deet on your dinner table.
11   EBGuy   2022 Jun 7, 2:18pm  

Daily Marijuana Use And Highly Potent Weed Linked To Psychosis
Now a new study published Tuesday in the The Lancet Psychiatry shows that consuming pot on a daily basis and especially using high-potency cannabis increases the odds of having a psychotic episode later...
The study also shows that three European cities — London, Paris and Amsterdam — where high-potency weed is most commonly available actually have higher rates of new cases of psychosis than the other cities in the study...
Use of high-potency weed almost doubled the odds of having psychosis compared with someone who had never smoked weed, explains Di Forti. And for those who used high-potency pot on a daily basis, the risk of psychosis was even greater — four times greater than those who had never used.
The easy availability of high-THC weed is a recent phenomenon, she notes. "Almost 20 years ago, there wasn't much high-potency cannabis available [in the market]."

This is not Boomer Mary Jane...
12   Bd6r   2022 Jun 7, 2:32pm  

I have not read much about marijuana use studies, but one thing that I do remember from old clinical studies was that the ONLY way how person can be hurt was to heavily use it from teenage years. If you start in your 20's then you can smoke/eat a rail cart per day and there were no reported health problems (other than those arising from smoke, and even then they were much less than for tobacco).
13   AmericanKulak   2022 Jun 7, 2:33pm  

Ceffer says

The bottom line is drugs, especially the addictive ones, make piles of money for somebody who doesn't give a shit about your life or the consequences, but will tell you anything they think you will believe to continue using them.


I should look at the Glaucoma and Cystic Fibrosis numbers.

Based on Claims made by Potheads 1990-2010, these should now be entirely cured thanks to the magic healing powers of THC.
14   AmericanKulak   2022 Jun 7, 2:35pm  

By the way, Ecstacy was promoted as a healing drug back in the day.

Now we're seeing middle aged people who have totally fucked up all their Uptake Receptors just from using once a week in teenage/college years for a few months.
15   mell   2022 Jun 7, 2:42pm  

NuttBoxer says

mell says


It's more likely a reverse causation, that already otherwise troubled people are more likely to toke a lot lot.


As an escape from reality, possibly. Had a relative who did that after their wife died quite young. Not good as he avoided dealing with the pain, but better than alcohol, or getting on any real drugs(big pharma). Bottom line, if all this kid did was smoke pot, don't care how much, if you don't know why read what the endocannibinoid system in your body is used for, none of this would have happened.

So take this 30's government propaganda elsewhere, unless you also plan to start putting asbestos in your ceiling, buy cocaine and speed from the pharmacy for your house wife, and keeping a bottle of deet on your dinner table.


Agreed. It's probably one of the least dangerous drugs in the US market, with the pharma approved ssris and painkillers being the most dangerous ones, followed by hard drugs and alcohol.

AmericanKulak says

By the way, Ecstacy was promoted as a healing drug back in the day.

Now we're seeing people who have totally fucked up all their Uptake Receptors just from using it a bit in teenage/college years.


It's all relative. Compared to many approved pharma drugs ecstasy is likely an effective therapeutic drug with fewer side effects, that doesn't mean you should take ecstasy daily, or even weekly. I don't think a handful of times, make it 10 times, spread out, will do any damage, but if you were a regular raver/partier and took it throughout your youth, possibly into your 20s or more you can bet there is likely lasting damage. Of course genetics play a role in this, too.
16   mell   2022 Jun 7, 2:45pm  

AmericanKulak says

Ceffer says


The bottom line is drugs, especially the addictive ones, make piles of money for somebody who doesn't give a shit about your life or the consequences, but will tell you anything they think you will believe to continue using them.


I should look at the Glaucoma and Cystic Fibrosis numbers.

Based on Claims made by Potheads 1990-2010, these should now be entirely cured thanks to the magic healing powers of THC.


It has demonstrated anti-inflammatory and anti-cancer effects, the anti-inflammatory part is more pronounced though. You can likely take Turmeric and Quercetin for that as well, it's not a miracle drug. However if somebody has chronic pain or insomnia, I would always have them try THC first before taking any of the big pharma shite.
17   mell   2022 Jun 7, 2:47pm  

In any case - if you haven't kept up - the latest rage is Psilocybin ;)
18   HeadSet   2022 Jun 7, 4:49pm  

AmericanKulak says

By the way, Ecstacy was promoted as a healing drug back in the day.

So was heroin. The name even means female hero. It was supposed to be a non-addictive form of morphine.
19   mell   2022 Jun 7, 5:03pm  

HeadSet says

AmericanKulak says


By the way, Ecstacy was promoted as a healing drug back in the day.

So was heroin. The name even means female hero. It was supposed to be a non-addictive form of morphine.


Works well when used appropriately against cough, similar to codeine.
20   socal2   2022 Jun 7, 6:22pm  

WookieMan says

Fast forward to today. Almost everyone I know consumes. Most white collar professionals. They all get their shit done. I'll take 5-20mg a day now. It's also not addictive. Went a week without it recently and didn't even think about it. Forgot I ran out.


That is my experience too. I take a couple vape hits nearly every day after work along with a glass of wine or beer at dinner. Been doing that for 25+ years and am in tip-top shape, have a great family life, successful at work and active with a ton of hobbies and friends. I barely drink more than 1 drink and never take anything heavier. I can go days and weeks without and no addiction or side effects at all.

I have so many friends and family back home in Illinois and Indiana who struggle with alcohol totally fucking up their lives. Can't think of a single person I know that has problems exclusively with weed.

I totally agree that young kids need to stay away from weed and do worry about how easy it is to get in California. Growing up in the Midwest, weed was available, but it was still a bit of a luxury and not as ubiquitous as what we have now in California. I have 2 teenagers at home, and so far they and their friends have stayed away. I was already drinking pretty heavy when I was my daughter's age. Fingers crossed they stay on the straight and narrow a few more years!
21   Ceffer   2022 Jun 7, 7:44pm  

I do know people who take the various cannabis for pain conditions and sleep. It's certainly preferable to standard pain meds and narcotics, and it works for them.

An Iranian Turkish girl from a work place said hashish poultices were common in her country for arthritic conditions and worked very well.

I don't think they are talking about medicinal use, however, they are talking about chronic recreational use for altering consciousness. Something might be wonderful for medicinal use in some contexts, while being potentially dangerous in abuse conditions.
22   richwicks   2022 Jun 7, 7:57pm  

RWSGFY says




Heavy marijuana use among youths is leading to more addiction and antisocial behavior.



THIS I doubt.

Anybody that is violent when stoned is mentally ill.

I don't use cannabis too often now but when I did use it with some frequency (not more than once a week), I was the most empathetic, nicest person you'd ever meet. Killing a spider when I was stoned was unthinkable, I'd spend an hour trying to capture it to dump it in a bush.

People who engage in violence when they are stoned are fucking sociopaths. Everything is enhanced, and I feel bad when I hurt people or things to some level no matter how well deserved it is. People who engage in violence when they are stoned enjoy violence. They enjoy cruelty. Sadism, as far as I'm concerned is a mental illness, same thing with masochism - it's just two mentally ill assholes hooking up.

I should say that the downside of being stoned is that it's difficult to concentrate on a single thing. I can design a high level system when stoned, but I can't implement it. I did most of the design of my Senior project computer chip when I was stoned, but I had to be stone cold sober to do the implementation. It gave me greater access to creativity at the DRASTIC expense of being actually smart. I could access my knowledge but it was impossible to use that knowledge to build complex systems when I was stoned, that requires good memory and attention to detail.
23   Ceffer   2022 Jun 7, 8:03pm  

I have the old story from college about my sociopathic football player roommate, who had a long juvenile record and belonged to gangs since childhood (white gangs). He said that when he would drink, he had no problem beating up old ladies and stealing their purses. However, when he smoked dope, he was just a mild, nice guy who didn't care about the usual violence.

I'm not so sure about the violence, either. I would surmise it is the exception rather than the rule.
24   richwicks   2022 Jun 7, 8:38pm  

AmericanKulak says


I used to think this was bullshit, but there is clearly a non-insignificant number of people for whom marijuana leads down a path to permateen/loser status and even easy suggestibility and irritability that makes them vulnerable to further acts of stupidity and crime.



At least 1/2 of engineers in Silly Con Valley used cannabis fairly regularly. We were good up until 2010. See the device you're using to read this on? Some stoner worked on it.

Nobody I knew was wake and bake, they used it occasionally for creativity and insight. It's not an escape FROM something, it's an escape INTO something. I still use it to get beyond occasional memory or thinking blocks.

I used to hang out with my cousin and we'd get stoned and go for a long LONG walk with my dogs. We came up with a lot of interesting conversations and ideas, some of which I'm starting to implement now. There's people with ideas that are 50 years into the future that they refuse to implement because of the (potential) consequences of making the technology available. But since Facebook and Google no longer has any ethics and especially our government doesn't...

It's unfortunate but if it can be made, it will be made.
25   AmericanKulak   2022 Jun 8, 3:28am  

Some != All.

There's no doubt in my mind there's a sub set - and not insignificant - number of people who fall into loserdom because of pot.

Just like there are some people who get wicked sick (or paranoid) from smoking. Had a friend in high school who barfed at the smell of it, we couldn't smoke around him at all, just a whiff would start the upheavals.

Happened to Jordan Peterson's childhood best friend, in fact, who came from the same Middle Class Small Town background.
26   WookieMan   2022 Jun 8, 5:09am  

AmericanKulak says

There's no doubt in my mind there's a sub set - and not insignificant - number of people who fall into loserdom because of pot.

I disagree in that I think the pot is kind of like a gun in the killing. Basically the person was destined to be a loser regardless. I'd lay 99% of it is the parents. Could also be the internet. A kid or young man sees all this fame. Our federal government having hearings over these shootings. When you don't get attention or it's negative attention you're just used to it.

Fact is they were likely losers before they tried pot is the point. Bad or non-existent parenting along with probably being bullied in school because he/they were likely idiots and made fun of. I wasn't a guy to pick on classmate, but witnessed enough of it to see it was bad. Some got motivated by it and are successful today and I think a few that were bullied are dead.

We're in a small town so I tell my kids to play all positions. Play nice in the sandbox with everyone. We tell them even at 9, 10 and 12 that the more people you know and get along with, the more $$$$$$ you will make. More opportunities. Kids are not adults, but I'll have hour long talks with them about adult topics. Mainly financial, because they're sponges right now and eventually will want to do something else besides talk with dad. Stuff they teach like knowing state capitols is a complete waste. Memorization is a waste of time.

Biggest concern is the next 2-8 years. Covid fucked up a lot of kids development. A LOT. Merge that with bad parenting during that time and you've likely got a rather large pool of shooters. Not gonna happen in todays world, but a media blackout of coverage on these events would help in all honesty. We're not in these guys minds, they feel like they're a hero and getting revenge on what was bad to them as a kid. They usually end up dead after the event so it's hard to unpack the mindset they were in and how they got there.
27   Ceffer   2022 Jun 8, 10:52am  

Stuff is ridiculously strong these days, compared the to sticks and seeds of the olden days. I don't think it would be a bad idea to give prisoners all the weed and hash they want. It would probably make the guards jobs easier.
28   WookieMan   2022 Jun 8, 11:08am  

Ceffer says

Stuff is ridiculously strong these days, compared the to sticks and seeds of the olden days.

I'd agree. You have to get through the early tolerance days though with modern edibles or flower (I generally don't smoke). I had a freak out at the airport thinking it would help anxiety, but I did too much. Made it way worse. Start really slow and it's a huge help to calm you but not seem like Cheech and Chong. Most people wouldn't know I'm high and I can function 100%. Just don't do too much.

Edibles I'd start at 2.5mg (might have to cut in half). If that overwhelms go smaller. 30mg is my breaking point where I turn into a legit stoner. I keep it to 5-10mg. 20mg on a fun night. Good for sex too if I'm being honest. I'd rather be high than drunk and I like beer. Being high is much more intimate. Buzzed/drunk not so much. There are dudes that can eat 200mg and I cannot comprehend how they function. It won't kill you, but doesn't sound pleasant as someone that uses it.
29   NuttBoxer   2022 Jun 8, 11:31am  

There's so many factors that have never been addressed by cannabis studies, mostly because of the funding issues due to it being schedule 1. Did the people ingesting use butane directly, or a hemp wick? Was their cannabis organic? Are the seeds used to grow the plant GMO?

If all you're getting is the natural plant, not butane poison, no pesticides, and no forced female seeds, then I don't care how much THC you smoke, and I don't care at what age. There will never be psychosis.

And unfortunately, until the industry cares more about healing than profits, there will never be these studies.

Guns don't kill people, and cannabis doesn't make them losers. Please stop using circumstantial logic to try and rationalize your opinion. Directed at everyone in this thread who think cannabis is dangerous.

I will qualify the dangerous part though. Enough of anything can harm your liver. Smoke is preferred over edibles as the uptake of CBD's is significantly higher. And the cannabis need not have any THC to achieve health benefits.
30   Ceffer   2022 Jun 8, 8:03pm  

In my ill wasted youth, I once took a road trip to New Orleans with a ride sharing group. Somewhere around Riverside, somebody passed around some marijuana brownies. They took a while to come on, but were really strong.

For the part that I was not driving, it was a hatchback with a window in the back with a blanket, and you could lay down and look at the sky. Going through the Arizona desert, the sky was crystal clear, and there was a meteor shower that wouldn't quit, they were constant, closely spaced, bright meteors firing for a very long time. I have to admit with the drug enhancement, it was an unforgettable experience. I have never seen a meteor shower like that since, though I have looked.
31   WookieMan   2022 Jun 8, 9:17pm  

I'm not a big movie guy, but being high and watching a good movie is amazing.

Music is my jam though. Specifically with over the ear headphones on. I actually will do it at live shows where they offer it. I'll be pissing or getting a beer and still grooving out to the live show. It's a cool concept.

Designing a atmos home theater sound system for the new house. My budget for this might be large. I might drop $20-30k on this. Actually I'll probably spend $50k on home audio. Inside, outside and theater. If I can keep the foundation, framing, drywall and roof to $250-300k, I'm going to have a field day on finishing it out. Lighting is another biggie for me but that should be under $10k. Pool cost is unknown as IL has plenty of pools, but with the freeze/thaw you have to be careful.
32   richwicks   2022 Jun 9, 8:41pm  

WookieMan says

I'm not a big movie guy, but being high and watching a good movie is amazing.



Watching 2001 and Altered States is amazing when you're high. I first saw Altered States when I was high, and it's just a great movie in that altered state. Some of the visuals are just amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzO-qS5WSQ

Today, if they would even make a movie like that again (they wouldn't), they wouldn't be able to get the strange trippy visuals right.
33   AD   2023 Jun 26, 11:38am  

RWSGFY says

Cannabis and the Violent Crime Surge


yes as it does impact the ability to show empathy ...so it creates a zombie thug persona ...
34   NuttBoxer   2023 Jun 26, 1:58pm  

So I'm no pot head, my cannabis increases my empathy and sensitivity to my kids and my wife.

Given the rampant evidence of SSRI abuse, especially when it comes to shootings, I don't understand how a thread like this even exists, unless it's being pushed by people with no real world experience on the subject.
35   richwicks   2023 Jun 26, 3:46pm  

ad says


RWSGFY says


Cannabis and the Violent Crime Surge


yes as it does impact the ability to show empathy ...so it creates a zombie thug persona ...



Anybody that has used cannabis that is violent on it is, seriously, a sociopath. It increases empathy and creativity with the downside that it makes you stupid for a bit.

I literally can't kill a fly when I'm high. Seriously, you'd need a total lack of empathy to be violent on it.
36   NuttBoxer   2023 Jun 27, 8:06am  

I don't think you get stupid. It's more of a shift in focus based on heightened/new sensory input, and a slowed down pace that allows for more pondering. There are many different ways to live and experience the world, just because it's a different way doesn't mean that person is dumber at the time.
37   richwicks   2023 Jun 27, 8:23am  

NuttBoxer says

I don't think you get stupid. It's more of a shift in focus based on heightened/new sensory input, and a slowed down pace that allows for more pondering. There are many different ways to live and experience the world, just because it's a different way doesn't mean that person is dumber at the time.


I'm definitely more stupid when I'm high. I can't do detailed work, but I can do high level work, but most of that "high level work" is garbage.

Like coding when I'm stoned - it's impossible because I can't keep track of enough of the variables or where I precisely am in an implementation. ARCHITECTING code? Yeah, that's actually simplified - but I make a lot of errors in the design because I don't see caveats and contractions. Still, I can come up with a lot of great ideas on it.

I just don't get who could be violent on cannabis. I used to get high with my cousin and then take my dogs for a walk. I swear I noticed a behavior change in them once I got high, but I also treated them differently I guess too. Much more empathetic and patient with anything they wanted to do. It wasn't like I was in a hurry though or anything.

One of my fosters once pulled me down an embankment - she was always an asshole, dragged me down on my face, the grade was like 30%. Normally I would have been angry, and she knew that, I got up covered in mud, dirt, and pine needles and I started to laugh and she hurt me too.
38   NuttBoxer   2023 Jun 27, 10:35am  

I would probably freak out if I had to work while high, although I have done it before, when I was still high from the night before. Was a chill environment, so just shined it on for an hour or so. Do what makes sense for the mood.
39   Ceffer   2023 Jun 27, 10:57am  

I go back to my thug football player roommate, whose gang would 'drop beans' (benzedrine), or smoke pot. He said that when he smoked pot, he was nice and passive. When he didn't, he would knock old lady's down to steal their purses.

It could be that THC restrains more crime than it stimulates, but that is an impossible statistic to investigate. I do know that every innominate blue collar worker we have been around for the last year or two have always reeked of dope. Want them to riot and twerk over burning cop cars, feed them captagon and fast food human flesh food. Want to calm them down, dump marijuana bales in the hoods.
40   NuttBoxer   2023 Jun 27, 1:10pm  

Not impossible, you just need a little experience and common sense.

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