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So open/concealed carry is now protected by constitution?


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by FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   $0.10 total tips   💰tip   follow   2022 Jun 23, 4:16pm  

Or do people have to sue now to get the unconstitutional laws removed?

(Kind of funny side note, I've carried without a permit since forever anyway like most people, because no one can get permits).

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1   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2022 Jun 23, 4:29pm  

I expect it will take more lawsuits for California to comply. We have a commie super majority in our house and senate and californians in general are super I’ll informed and mostly retarded so that will be an issue as well.
2   RWSGFY   2022 Jun 23, 4:34pm  

Liberal tears be salty:


The ruling will have significant impacts in California beyond only concealed carry laws, UCLA law professor Adam Winkler told SFGATE.

"It's fair to say this ruling will have its biggest effects in states like California with more restrictive gun laws," said Winkler, who is the author of "Gunfight: The Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms in America." "This is the beginning of a period where we’ll see a wide variety of California gun laws called into question, if not struck down entirely."
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While the Thursday opinion does not directly wipe out concealed carry restrictions in California, challenges to such laws are now likely to succeed in court. In California, concealed carry permits are granted by local law enforcement agencies (some of which are quite restrictive), so expect a dramatic increase in permits granted in large cities such as San Francisco and Los Angeles.

But what's more significant than the ruling on concealed carry laws, Winkler states, is the updated standard the court prescribed for deciding future gun control cases. Up until this point, lower courts have been using interest-balancing tests in which judges weigh the goals of gun control measure against the burdens they may create.

On Thursday, however, the court clarified that "to justify [a] regulation, the government may not simply posit that the regulation promotes an important interest. Rather, the government must demonstrate that the regulation is consistent with this Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation."

This new "historical tradition" standard will jeopardize almost all of California's gun control laws, Winkler believes.
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"California has red flag laws, but under the 'historical tradition' test, red flag laws should be unconstitutional," he said. "There's no history of taking away guns from people in crisis as red flags do. Bans on high capacity magazines and assault weapons are also likely to be struck down, and then there's California’s 10-day waiting period. There's no history of that. The court says only those regulations consistent with historical regulations are permissible. California has innovative laws that restrict guns in ways that are not historically common."

When asked which California gun control laws he believes may survive this new test for Second Amendment cases, Winkler said that background checks appear to be the least endangered (the predecessor to Thursday's opinion, District of Columbia v. Heller, notes a historical tradition of keeping firearms out of the hands of people who may be dangerous).

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https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/scotus-threatens-california-gun-laws-17260774.php?IPID=SFGate-HP-CP-Spotlight
3   GNLusedtobeWi   2022 Jun 23, 4:47pm  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says


I expect it will take more lawsuits for California to comply. We have a commie super majority in our house and senate and californians in general are super I’ll informed and mostly retarded so that will be an issue as well.

So, get a few friends together and hire a lawyer. Better to find a pro 2A lawyer as well. Be the leader you want from others. Sorry, not trying to be a jerk. Someone's got to do it. You could be a hero that young boys write song about. Don't let anyone say this to you...



4   HunterTits   2022 Jun 23, 4:48pm  

RWSGFY says

California has red flag laws, but under the 'historical tradition' test, red flag laws should be unconstitutional," he said


That's good. Because the Senate RINOs just voted for red flag shit.
5   GNLusedtobeWi   2022 Jun 23, 4:50pm  

HunterTits says

RWSGFY says


California has red flag laws, but under the 'historical tradition' test, red flag laws should be unconstitutional," he said


That's good. Because the Senate RINOs just voted for red flag shit.

If I understand correctly, you can't be red flagged without a hearing first and can face your accuser/s.
8   ForcedTQ   2022 Jun 23, 10:41pm  

They are all having shit fits and have no understanding of the constitution and it’s supporting documents.

I can’t understand why all of them that are pro freedom supposedly to do whatever they want with their lives want the government to tell everyone what they can and can’t do with respect to rights given by a person’s creator (whoever one believes that to be.)
9   SunnyvaleCA   2022 Jun 24, 3:25am  

I wonder if we'll be able to buy ammunition without all the tracking? Mail-order ammunition was really nice: Better prices and more options.
10   BayArea   2022 Jun 24, 7:19am  

I will apply for a CCW with my county sheriff

If for nothing else, it’ll be educational
11   Tenpoundbass   2022 Jun 24, 8:03am  

Protected by the constitution, just as long as your vindictive Karen neighbor, or jilted Ex, doesn't throw out any red flags.
12   stereotomy   2022 Jun 24, 8:18am  

I'll have to start doing my research on handguns. With the ammo situation, I'll probably have to stick to the most common rounds. I figure one for me and one for the wife. Decisions, decisions . . .
13   GNLusedtobeWi   2022 Jun 24, 9:52am  

stereotomy says

I'll have to start doing my research on handguns. With the ammo situation, I'll probably have to stick to the most common rounds. I figure one for me and one for the wife. Decisions, decisions . . .

The FBI did an extensive study on what the best overall defensive round was and they decided the 9MM was it.
14   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2022 Jun 24, 10:23am  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

I expect it will take more lawsuits for California to comply. We have a commie super majority in our house and senate and californians in general are super I’ll informed and mostly retarded so that will be an issue as well.


yeah laws haven't been changed here at all. so will require lawsuits to remove them. if you want a permit, you really can't get one unless you are a police officer or well connected rich person. I carry without a permit for that reason.
15   HunterTits   2022 Jun 24, 10:35am  

It
Always
Fucking
Was
16   Hircus   2022 Jun 24, 11:29am  

Even once concealed/open carry becomes legal for all in CA again, I'd still be hesitant to shoot someone. From what I've seen, its not intuitive what you must do when defending yourself to avoid getting prosecuted for murder. This seems intentional - a trick to discourage defensive gun ownership.

Of course, I'd rather take my chances landing in prison than a casket.
17   GNLusedtobeWi   2022 Jun 24, 1:21pm  

Hircus says

Even once concealed/open carry becomes legal for all in CA again, I'd still be hesitant to shoot someone. From what I've seen, its not intuitive what you must do when defending yourself to avoid getting prosecuted for murder. This seems intentional - a trick to discourage defensive gun ownership.

Of course, I'd rather take my chances landing in prison than a casket.

Now THAT is something that should go to the supreme court to decide...the rules under what constitutes "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness". The Life part needs some clarification of when you can and cannot defend it. We used to shoot cattle rustlers on site legally.

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