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2022 Jul 12, 1:18pm   42,476 views  654 comments

by Patrick   follow (59)  

Arrived in London this morning. Internet is spotty, but I'll try to report thoughts.

- almost no homeless, saw just one so far
- lots of trash though
- prices seem reasonable, a bit lower than SF, but that's because the pound is so low against the dollar
- the majority of people on the street are clearly not English; they are from everywhere else on earth

I did not know there was a Saint Chad:

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622   Patrick   2026 Jan 16, 8:41pm  

https://barsoom.substack.com/p/amelia-sans-merci


Around the same time that Amelia was being born, images of Persian women lighting their cigarettes with the Ayatollah’s photograph went viral.




Inspired by the courageous and beautiful Persians, I made my own first contribution to Amelia, depicting her lighting her cigarette with a burning picture of Keir Starmer, or with a burning progress pride flag.







Whether in imitation, or inspired directly by the Persians, similar images soon appeared.



624   Patrick   2026 Jan 16, 8:45pm  


So I guess in addition to purple hair, Britishness, and racism, another of Amelia’s canonical characteristics is that she’s a smoker, which honestly fits the archetype of a rebellious alt girl. ...


625   Patrick   2026 Jan 16, 8:50pm  

https://barsoom.substack.com/p/amelia-sans-merci


Amelia’s explosive popularity seems out of step with the image of the right as conservative and traditionalist. This may be what led to Shout Out UK’s fortuitous misstep in the first place (assuming that Amelia wasn’t just the creative director’s shadow persona self-insert, which is distinctly possible). Rightists, they may have reasoned, are generally hostile to the aposematic fashions beloved of the left’s gender-ambiguous hall monitors. Reactionary Christian conservatives prefer their girls to be demure, submissive, and modest; they dislike tattoos, piercings, and brightly coloured hair. By associating nativist extremism with a purple-haired alt girl, they’ll drive the chuds away from racism! It’s brilliant!




... I’ve thought for a while that this conservative presentation is a gross strategic error. The right should instead embrace the ready-made aesthetics of the antihero: leather jackets, sunglasses, leather boots, and so on. it should take its aesthetic cues from heavy metal, punk rock, jazz, industrial, and techno, not country and western or easy listening Christian contemporary. It should dress with a bit of edge.




Amelia’s resonance is a function of her subversion of contemporary sartorial norms, which code Manic Panic hair as visual shorthand for insufferable shitlibbery. ... Amelia as chudette, as sweet-natured Nietzschean e-girl, as rabid remigrationist with a fag in one hand and a burning fag flag in the other, this is something unexpected, novel, and therefore interesting. The right-wing is not supposed to be visually striking, it is not supposed to grab eyeballs with loud colours, it is expected to be aesthetically dull and uninspired, it is supposed to behave and obey the rules (which were written so that it will always lose). Amelia presents possibilities that haven’t been explored yet ... if the authoritarian den mothers of the longhouse can appropriate punk rock fashions and wear them like a skinsuit ... could not a cyberpunk right do the same?
626   Patrick   2026 Jan 16, 8:55pm  

https://barsoom.substack.com/p/amelia-sans-merci


Amelia poses a question. Can we hyperstition manic pixie dream radicals into existence? This is almost the same question as: can we psyop the existing supply of art hos into adopting right-wing opinions? Can they be seduced to the dark side, which is to say to the forces of the good, the true, and the beautiful? At the individual level it’s a known phenomenon that women will tend to adjust their beliefs to match those of their boyfriends and husbands; can we do this at the collective level, as well? Can we hold frame, letting them know that gay race communism might offer them a ‘career’ but at the price of romantic loneliness ... that they have to choose between being ‘good’, and being loved? Women love nothing more than male attention. By projecting the political imperative of remigration and reconquista onto a whimsical avatar, perhaps a signal can be transmitted into the collective mind ... ‘Men want this ... you can be this ... doesn’t it look like more fun than whatever you’re doing right now?’



627   Patrick   2026 Jan 16, 8:56pm  


The purest and most powerful form of modern mythology, however, is not to be found in comic books, fantasy novels, or conspiracy theories, but in the humble and unserious meme, which has grown to encompass, supersede, and transcend the other forms with its ubiquity.



628   Patrick   2026 Jan 16, 8:59pm  


Before Trump was elected, Pepe had been deified via his connection with the primordial Egyptian god of cosmogonic chaos, Kek...

This fueled the half-serious, half-ironic belief in meme magic on the forum – the notion that memes could be used to prophecy, or perhaps even to change reality. Proliferation of a meme could establish a sort of resonance between the consciousness of human beings and the universal mind, leading to the manifestation of the meme in reality.


Kek was typically depicted in ancient Egypt as a man with a frog's head.
635   HeadSet   2026 Jan 17, 9:33am  

Patrick says





Dude is a bit swarthy for an Anglo-Saxon. Is she saying to breed with the immigrants to make those immigrants English?
636   The_Deplorable   2026 Jan 17, 12:54pm  

HeadSet says
"Dude is a bit swarthy for an Anglo-Saxon."

Nonsense. It looks like you have a problem with men and women getting
married and having a family.
637   Patrick   2026 Jan 17, 9:43pm  

The whole point of the comic is that the male hero of it is a regular English guy.
638   Ceffer   2026 Jan 17, 11:55pm  

I guess the Amelia meme has caught on.


https://x.com/Pirat_Nation/status/2012646114139230254
639   HeadSet   2026 Jan 18, 9:06am  

The_Deplorable says

HeadSet says

"Dude is a bit swarthy for an Anglo-Saxon."

Nonsense. It looks like you have a problem with men and women getting
married and having a family.

How the devil do you reach that conclusion?
640   HeadSet   2026 Jan 18, 9:10am  

Patrick says

The whole point of the comic is that the male hero of it is a regular English guy.

"Regular" English guys are Nordic and rarely have black hair. And for the few "jets" that do, it is unlikely both kids would have black hair. The fact that both the man and his kids have black hair implies that the man is an immigrant.
641   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2026 Jan 18, 9:51am  

HeadSet says


"Regular" English guys are Nordic and rarely have black hair. And for the few "jets" that do, it is unlikely both kids would have black hair. The fact that both the man and his kids have black hair implies that the man is an immigrant.


The original British, Irish, etc., did have dark hair, brown or blue eyes and light skin. Before various conquests from the Vikings, Franks, and Anglo Saxons etc. I'm not sure if it's true but I've read that Sean Connery would be an example. At least in recent history.

Back 10,000 years you reach cheddar man, with dark skin, dark curly hair and blue eyes... I think that's the farthest back there is data for.
642   The_Deplorable   2026 Jan 18, 10:21am  

HeadSet says
"How the devil do you reach that conclusion?"

Your statement. Read it again.
643   goofus   2026 Jan 18, 11:20am  

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

HeadSet says



"Regular" English guys are Nordic and rarely have black hair. And for the few "jets" that do, it is unlikely both kids would have black hair. The fact that both the man and his kids have black hair implies that the man is an immigrant.


The original British, Irish, etc., did have dark hair, brown or blue eyes and light skin. Before various conquests from the Vikings, Franks, and Anglo Saxons etc. I'm not sure if it's true but I've read that Sean Connery would be an example. At least in recent history.

Back 10,000 years you reach cheddar man, with dark skin, dark curly hair and blue eyes... I think that's the farthest back there is data for.


Be very cautious of anthropology when it veers into politically charged areas. For example, the Cheddar Man reconstruction with near African skin color. Here is his direct descendant, still living in the Cheddar area:


Same eyes, similar nose and face shape - incredible actually. And yet the skin tone is presented as dark brown, despite this man living in post- ice age conditions in high northern latitudes. Unless one is eating seal livers with high vitamins A and D (as the Inuits do), dark skin would be maladaptive.

Anthropologists base the skin estimate on the absence of one modern European lighting allele. However, East Asians are light from other genes, as were Neanderthals (who lived Europe over many Ice Ages, since 600kya). I suspect they missed a gene that kept pre-modern European groups, including Cro-magnons, light.
644   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2026 Jan 18, 11:38am  

goofus says

Unless one is eating seal livers with high vitamins A and D (as the Inuits do)


Correct, and it wasn't just the UK. When Euros switched to cereals is when it's estimated the skin lightened up. Last I read ~7K years ago.

goofus says

However, East Asians are light from other genes


Also correct and so you might be right.

Yeah, that picture is super dark lol! I'm a genetics guy and don't particularly care about the politics of it or anthropologists. That reconstruction sure does look like someone was trying to make a point though!
645   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2026 Jan 18, 11:48am  

From AI, take it as you will:

Dark skin was common in Europe for most of its inhabited history, with lighter skin becoming dominant only relatively recently.

Pale skin did not become widespread until about 3,000 years ago, during the Iron Age, according to multiple studies analyzing ancient DNA from over 300 individuals.

The first signs of lighter skin appeared around 14,000 years ago in parts of Northern Europe, such as Sweden and France, but remained rare.

(I wouldn't consider France Northern Europe)

By the Bronze Age (7,000 to 3,000 years ago), the proportion of dark-skinned individuals had dropped to about half.

Genetic shifts were driven by migration: Neolithic farmers from Anatolia (modern-day Turkey) brought genes for lighter skin (like SLC24A5) around 8,000 years ago, and later migrations (e.g., Yamnaya herders) further spread these traits.

Even as late as 1,700 years ago, during the Roman Empire, dark skin was still common in many parts of Europe.

This transition was not a simple or linear process, but a complex patchwork of migration, gene flow, and local adaptation, challenging the old idea that lighter skin evolved gradually due to low UV exposure alone.

"Even as late as 1,700 years ago, during the Roman Empire, dark skin was still common in many parts of Europe." <- if that is true I'm sure it's documented in writing and no need to do genotyping.

So I asked it about that and there isn't any apparently. It kept mentioning people like Ethiopians migrating lol.. All that seems to really exist are some comment about Euro's being white and even more about red hair.
646   Ceffer   2026 Jan 18, 11:55am  

"Netflix" Natural History and Antrhopology have been around for a long time weaponized, both for 'superiority' and 'inferiority'. You'll only get what some devious bloodline wants you to see. The Smithsonian destroys a lot more history and natural history than it preserves and reveals, and its charter is to pursue various historical fairy tales consistent with current allowed views of culture, history and religion.

DNA by itself is an electromagnetic antenna and a memory battery (condenser) (epigenetics), which means the signal for life is received from some other dimension and there is constant back and forth communications from the DNA antenna arrays in various forms of life. That dimension is much more playful than standard evolution allows. The why and wherefore of life is still a huge mystery that public 'science' has tried to fool us about.

DNA significance is wildly distorted to make us believe current public 'science' is the end all and be all as a limiting guard rail, whereas the hidden sciences as usual remain exclusive to smaller groups.
647   Patrick   2026 Jan 18, 1:22pm  

My dad was Irish but had black hair and blue eyes, a combination which is common among the Irish for some reason.

Strangely, he had blonde hair as a boy, then it turned black.
648   Patrick   2026 Jan 18, 1:23pm  

Grok does say that it's rather unusual for the native English to have black hair:


The percentage of native Anglo-Saxon English people (meaning individuals of long-established English ancestry, primarily descending from pre-modern populations in England, excluding recent immigrants and their descendants) who have true black hair is quite low.

Reliable modern estimates, based on surveys, genetic studies (like UK Biobank data on white British participants), and population observations, place it at around 5-8% for naturally black hair among the broader white British or indigenous English population.
649   Patrick   2026 Jan 18, 1:27pm  

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

challenging the old idea that lighter skin evolved gradually due to low UV exposure alone


There is the vitamin D effect, where people with lighter skin survive better in northern Europe.

But it's also true everywhere in the world that lighter skin is selected for by men, because everywhere in the world, most men find fairer women more attractive. The very word "fair" in English means both "light-skinned" and "attractive".

It's true in Japan, and even in Africa. The high-status men get their pick of women, and they almost always choose light-skinned women.

And high-status men leave more surviving children than others in every generation.
650   HeadSet   2026 Jan 18, 2:10pm  

Patrick says

My dad was Irish but had black hair

Yes, commonly known as "Black Irish." In pre-Roman days, folks from Iberia migrated to Ireland and Wales and added to the genetics. Some have said Black Irish may be from Jewish influence.
651   HeadSet   2026 Jan 18, 2:17pm  

Patrick says

Strangely, he had blonde hair as a boy, then it turned black.

That is not uncommon among White people. Seems to me that so many White children are born blonde with blue eyes and the hair darkens as they get older and many have the eyes change to hazel or brown. You have heard the term "baby blue," right?
652   HeadSet   2026 Jan 18, 2:25pm  

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

The original British, Irish, etc., did have dark hair, brown or blue eyes and light skin

Odd, because if today one goes to northern England, Scottland and Ireland, one will see a high abundance of red or auburn hair. I presumed these folks were dependents of the original Brittons and had less Germanic blood.
653   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2026 Jan 18, 2:44pm  

HeadSet says

Patrick says


Strangely, he had blonde hair as a boy, then it turned black.

That is not uncommon among White people. Seems to me that so many White children are born blonde with blue eyes and the hair darkens as they get older and many have the eyes change to hazel or brown. You have heard the term "baby blue," right?


Same, white blonde hair as a kid and my eyes were bluer vs. blue green now. My hair turned brown in high school.
654   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2026 Jan 18, 2:45pm  

HeadSet says

Odd, because if today one goes to northern England, Scottland and Ireland, one will see a high abundance of red or auburn hair. I presumed these folks were dependents of the original Brittons and had less Germanic blood.


Right, I meant before they showed up. I have no idea what the Picts looked like. I think they were something all to their own.

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