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I think it's more like a Swiss Octagon/City of London/MI6 operation.

Yep, with all the media play it got here in the States it wasn't originated by Russia, Most likely our own intelligence agencies, Russia just joined in as operations of opportunity.

But, no, it started with the media coverage 24/7 of the Floyd debacle.

Maybe it started with Floyd and some protests, but also maybe the Russians saw an opportunity and used their bots to amplify that one signal beyond all reason, getting people involved in protesting. Universal protests make them seem socially and perhaps even morally correct. A certain halo of social acceptability hangs over the protest even as it turns to riots and lootings.
Doz boyz wuz Gud boyz!

It is obviously in the interests of any enemies of the US to promote BLM, which causes division and violence in the US with absolutely no productive upside. Pure harm.

RWSGFY says

The Senate report revealed that "most of the videos" put out by the Russian IRA troll factory on YouTube "pertained to police brutality and the activist efforts of the Black Lives Matter organization" and found that "no single group of Americans was targeted... more than African-Americans" around "race and related issues".

BLM is US intelligence, most likely CIA.

How many times does our government have to lie to you before you stop believing them?

If BLM was foreign operated, they'd be arrested. They killed over 2 dozen people in last 9 months up to the last presidential election, none of them were prosecuted. That means they are dupes of the intelligence agencies. They disappeared once Biden was put into power since they were no longer needed. They were specifically sent to cities with District Attorneys that were owned and controlled.

I'm tired of people falling for this obvious shit over and over and over again. Our government is our enemy, Russia? How gives a shit about Russia?

Patrick says

It is obviously in the interests of any enemies of the US to promote BLM, which causes division and violence in the US with absolutely no productive upside. Pure harm.

The enemies of the United States are in Washington DC, Langley Virginia, and many places in Silicon Valley. It's not Russia attacking our constitution, it's not Russia bringing LGBTQ crap into schools or putting on it television, it's not Russia causing inflation, it's not Russia shutting down pipelines, it's not Russia engineering a food crisis.

RWSGFY says

The Senate report revealed that "most of the videos" put out by the Russian IRA troll factory on YouTube "pertained to police brutality and the activist efforts of the Black Lives Matter organization"

The same Senate who says Antifa doesn't exist, and funnels BLM donations to their own coffers? See, we don't need to look for Russian boogeymen, we got lots right here at home. All this division bullshit kicked into over-drive after they broke up the Occupy protests. Not because we went after bankers, because we were united. And the power structures in every country fear our unity more than anything.

We can spend all day pointing at Israel, China, and Russia. But the three letter agencies and the Federal Reserve weren't started by those countries.

Shaman says

Maybe it started with Floyd and some protests, but also maybe the Russians saw an opportunity and used their bots to amplify

KGB has always been running "black movements" in the USA. It's just a continuation.

Ceffer says

I think it's more like a Swiss Octagon/City of London/MI6 operation.

Yep, it's never Russia. NEVER!!!!

Eric Holder says

Yep, it's never Russia. NEVER!!!!

You're the only one arguing in absolutes. A trait common to fascism.

Hmm... Seems like Russia got to you after all.

Why is a Jewish man in charge of BLM? Because the Jewish founder does not trust a Swartzer to do that job.

Russia should change their name to Frank's Redhot

The drive by media puts that shit on everything

Spencer is a nobody, just another bullshit PhD "Researcher" (Propagandist) who thinks the Nazis are returning. Probably on the Fed Payroll to keep the budgets and propaganda for Fedbois high.

Rosenberg is the real witch, but behind her are the Reprobate Pilgrim descendents: Ayers, Gates, Buffet, Kerry, Walker, Bush, etc.

The news has piqued my interest in Dugin - the ideolog of current Ruscist regime. Here's what he wrote in his "Geopolitics 101: The Future of Russia" book back in 1997:

Within the United States itself, there is a need for the Russian special services and their allies “to provoke all forms of instability and separatism within the borders of the United States (it is possible to make use of the political forces of Afro-American racists)” (p. 248). “It is especially important,” Dugin adds, “to introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics…” (p. 367).

Support for BLM totally falls within these stated goals. And makes at least Kamala the agent of Ruscist state.

Eric Holder says

And makes at least Kamala the agent of Ruscist state.

You have anything that proves Harris is influenced by Russia more than her own sociopathic tendencies? You're so busy searching for the enemy from without, you've completely missed the enemy from within. Because as soon as I hear that, my first thought is all the minorities she incarcerated while in California for victimless drug offenses.

You are blinded by hatred, and it warps everything you touch. I was angry for a long time after 2008. Not at Russians, but at our government. It's meaningless and accomplished nothing. I still don't like getting stepped on, but at least now I'm pro-active about it. Aren't your close relationships tired of your constant spewing of Russian hatred?

I also don't understand the all-consuming hatred for Russia. It's like when you try to ask people with TDS why they hate Trump. There is a never a calm coherent answer, just sputtering and hate for you too, because you don't share their hate.

Hate and fear are pretty much the same thing, so it must be fear on some level, but fear of what? That Russia will try to take back Alaska? I'm pretty sure Russia is not about to nuke the US.

For people who have actually lived near Russia, I can see it. Russia was a real threat, exactly like Britain was a threat to the Irish. But for native-born Americans? I just don't get it.

NuttBoxer says

You have anything that proves Harris is influenced by Russia more than her own sociopathic tendencies?

She actively worked hand in hand with BLM. Bailing them out and such.

It's a "walks and quacks" kinda thing.

She might have been used w/o her knowledge, because she's stupid enough for that.

NuttBoxer says

Eric Holder says

And makes at least Kamala the agent of Ruscist state.

You have anything that proves Harris is influenced by Russia more than her own sociopathic tendencies? You're so busy searching for the enemy from without, you've completely missed the enemy from within. Because as soon as I hear that, my first thought is all the minorities she incarcerated while in California for victimless drug offenses.

You are blinded by hatred, and it warps everything you touch. I was angry for a long time after 2008. Not at Russians, but at our government. It's meaningless and accomplished nothing. I still don't like getting stepped on, but at least now I'm pro-active about it. Aren't your close relationships tired of your constant spewing of Russian hatred?

I'm sure BLM and FSB are very grateful for at least somebody standing up for them, LOL. It's funny how even BLM becomes palatable once it's known that Ruscia is involved.

PS. And cut down on "you, you, you". It's a bad style. We even used to have a rule against it.

lol guys.

russia collusion gets a rebrand, so cute from same group of bullshit propaganda artists.

100% this one made up by fbi faggots, they always blame russia. trump election russia, gas prices russia, trump russia, blm russia now… same old bullshit line, because same old people writing it.

Good point @FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden

I'm so old, I remember when Hitlary called Trump an Illegitimate President and said the 2016 Election was interfered with, a few days after Obama said Election Rigging was impossible.


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I need to do more research.

Eric Holder says

The news has piqued my interest in Dugin - the ideolog of current Ruscist regime. Here's what he wrote in his "Geopolitics 101: The Future of Russia" book back in 1997:

Within the United States itself, there is a need for the Russian special services and their allies “to provoke all forms of instability and separatism within the borders of the United States (it is possible to make use of the political forces of Afro-American racists)” (p. 248). “It is especially important,” Dugin adds, “to introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics…” (p. 367).

This book?

https://www.n01r.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Foundations-of-Geopolitics-Geopolitical-Future-of-Russia-Alexander-Dugin-English-auto-translation-with-appended-original.pdf



I can't find the quote. Is that the wrong book? Was it translated multiple times?

I used the old trick of taking a few words that were quoted and dumped them into a search engine and found this:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160607175004/https://www2.gwu.edu/~ieresgwu/assets/docs/demokratizatsiya%20archive/GWASHU_DEMO_12_1/John%20Dunlop%20Aleksandr%20Dugin's%20Foundations%20of%20Geopolitics.pdf

But that is "Aleksandr Dugin's Foundations of Geopolitics" by Dunlop, John B. Demokratizatsiya 12.1 (Jan 31, 2004): 41

It makes the same reference, but I cannot see it in my copy. In fact, I looked for multiple quotes in that paper, but could find none. Do I have the wrong book?

If I search for this:

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=t+would+also+make+sense+simultaneously+to+support+isolationist+tendencies+in+American+politics&ia=web

I find plenty of references to it. One is the Wikipedia entry:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

And it has multiple quotes in there. I checked several, I cannot find ONE in the book they are covering.

I cannot read Russian, but I can read glyphs. The book has the same title. Can you find a copy online that contains it? I doubt the US government gives a SHIT about respecting Russian copyright, and it doesn't matter, every book is online anyhow. I mean, every book is.

I think, at this point in time, this is a very good example of American propaganda. Let's see how old the Wikipedia article is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Foundations_of_Geopolitics&dir=prev&action=history

April 7, 2010 - so pretty old. Let's take a random entry that's OLD.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Foundations_of_Geopolitics&oldid=595995278

That's 2014. I went through several of the quotes and couldn't find any in the copy of the book I have, I'd have to have an entirely different book, with the same title?

So, do I just simply have the wrong book? Using quotes claimed by Dunlop (which most quotes originate from) I don't find any online book, just references to it.

Now, I may be in error, but you see I do make an effort to check my own preconceived notions. If you want to contact Dunlop, here's his page at Stanford:

https://profiles.stanford.edu/john-dunlop

There's an email there, you can write him and ask him why none of the quotes he attributes to Dugin appear in the copy I found. EDIT: I attempted to write him, and my email bounced. I am not making an accusation here, but it's possible he's in "error". It does happen, I once tried to contact a "climate scientist" about his past articles warning of catastrophe from years ago, and basically asked if his viewpoint had changed as a result of making many incorrect and dire predictions. He didn't write back.

There ARE people who are basically, not telling you the truth and don't give a damned about it. I'm not accusing Dunlop of that, but I'm saying it's conceivable. First rule of investigation is that you can't trust authorities. You have to check for yourself. Remember, Dr. Fauci is an "authority" and he's also a very brazen liar. You should see what he said about the AIDs crisis 35 years ago. He was, in large part, responsible for the stigmatization of the disease and those that had it. He repeatedly suggested it was an airborne disease and as a result, homosexual men that were discovered to be homosexual suddenly found themselves having a VERY hard time finding housing, and also were frequently attacked and ostracized.

The problem with hating someone just because they're Russian, or a Democrat, or whatever is it's really hatred of humanity. The reason being, you justify anything your side does to the other. These extreme ideologies have become more common since Occupy, as media has pushed hatred to divide people.

If we sacrifice morality to justify our beliefs, we lose our humanity.