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2022 Aug 22, 4:11pm   6,205 views  48 comments

by GreaterNYCDude   follow (2)  

Let the debates begin!

Does God exist?
Does God care about / for creation?
What of Religous leaders who have been deified by their followers? (Muhammad, Jesus, Budah, etc.)
What good comes from religion?
Is humanity inatley good?
What happens to our soul when we die?

I could go on... but that should be enough to get us started.

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35   Robert Sproul   @   2023 Jul 25, 7:00pm  

EBGuy says

drunken Bill Maher

I never cared one way or another about Maher other than I never found him funny. BUT he didn't bend the knee to the Totalitarian Jabbers and that, more than anything else these days, makes him part of my team. It pervades my feelings about everything, I don't give AF about tennis but I LOVE Djokovic. I have a newfound respect for Ice Cube and I now hate Neil Young. It is a permanent line dividing everybody for me now.
36   Patrick   @   2023 Jul 25, 7:05pm  

I feel the same way.

The biggest risk to humanity is the sea of compliant idiots who just do whatever the "authorities" tell them to.
37   stereotomy   @   2023 Jul 25, 11:32pm  

Robert Sproul says

EBGuy says


drunken Bill Maher

I never cared one way or another about Maher other than I never found him funny. BUT he didn't bend the knee to the Totalitarian Jabbers and that, more than anything else these days, makes him part of my team. It pervades my feelings about everything, I don't give AF about tennis but I LOVE Djokovic. I have a newfound respect for Ice Cube and I now hate Neil Young. It is a permanent line dividing everybody for me now.

^^^^^^THIS

In a way, the scamdemic revealed that a lot of what I suspected about most people or human nature in general is actually true. I previously came to the revelation that life is high school, or high school never ends. What the scamdemic further revealed is that most people are flying on autopilot - they don't know why they do what they do, or at least they don't think about it. None of their behavior stands up to any kind of logical or rational scrutiny, and when you bring that up, they get really defensive and angry. In other words, most people are sheeple, ripe for exploitation by dark triad parasites.
38   HeadSet   @   2023 Jul 26, 6:09am  

stereotomy says

most people are sheeple

Correct. Humans are pack animals with most members of the herd lining up behind a leader to follow. People herd up behind political parties and even sports teams - logic is not involved. In my opinion, a leader is someone who is able to get the herd members to forgo their own individual self-interest and instead work for the best interest of the leader. There are some leaders who will work for what is best for the herd, but too many just exploit. Politicos like Biden, Shiff, and Pelosi likely just figure they may as well exploit the herd, because if they don't someone else will. Even leaders that start off wanting to help the herd may tire of being altruistic when too many herd members betray them and line up behind the exploiters.
39   RayAmerica   @   2023 Jul 26, 6:44am  

One question:

Whatever your beliefs happen to be, upon what authority do you base them upon?
40   fdhfoiehfeoi   @   2023 Jul 26, 8:34am  

Robert Sproul says

This bummed me out because I always thought I could slide by in that I have lead a pretty good life in the way of not having robbed much and not killed at all.


This is the most common belief most people have. The problem is God is perfect(without sin). He cannot be with anyone who has sin. But nobodies perfect so we're all screwed.
This is where Jesus comes in. He was God and man. Sinless, but He died like a sinner, and His sacrifice covered our sin. That's how we slide in. Accept Christ's free gift of salvation. So you're not that far off, but you need some help. We can't do it on our own.
41   fdhfoiehfeoi   @   2023 Jul 26, 8:36am  

RayAmerica says

Whatever your beliefs happen to be, upon what authority do you base them upon?


God's, but the specific measure is the Bible, our relationship with God(it's active, meaning He does communicate things to us), and the sense morality He imbued us with.
42   FortWayneHatesRealtors   @   2023 Jul 26, 9:56pm  

Patrick says

I feel the same way.

The biggest risk to humanity is the sea of compliant idiots who just do whatever the "authorities" tell them to.


same as it ever was
43   RayAmerica   @   2023 Jul 27, 9:01am  

GreaterNYCDude says

What of Religous leaders who have been deified by their followers? (Muhammad, Jesus, Budah, etc.)

Which one is the only one with an empty tomb? By the way, the Bible declares Jesus to be God, and that had nothing to do with his 'followers.'
44   fdhfoiehfeoi   @   2023 Jul 27, 9:22am  

What about religious leaders who have been murdered by their countrymen? I think Jesus may be the only one.
45   richwicks   @   2023 Jul 27, 9:37am  

NuttBoxer says


Robert Sproul says


This bummed me out because I always thought I could slide by in that I have lead a pretty good life in the way of not having robbed much and not killed at all.


This is the most common belief most people have. The problem is God is perfect(without sin). He cannot be with anyone who has sin. But nobodies perfect so we're all screwed.
This is where Jesus comes in. He was God and man. Sinless, but He died like a sinner, and His sacrifice covered our sin. That's how we slide in. Accept Christ's free gift of salvation. So you're not that far off, but you need some help. We can't do it on our own.


This is all just misplaced faith that you've been brainwashed into but you speak about it with certainty. It's like a disease being spread and your the spreader.

How can you not see this?
46   Robert Sproul   @   2023 Jul 28, 8:44pm  

richwicks says

you've been brainwashed into

Yeah, but we are ALL 'brainwashed' into some particular rationale. Throughout human history a creation myth and belief in a deity was nearly universal.
When I was an Irritable Atheist I realized that it was just another type of 'faith' because I was supposed to 'believe' in the Big Bang and WTF did I 'know' about the Big Bang?
And now the BB is losing favor with some astrophysicists, what am I supposed to 'believe' now?
47   PeopleUnited   @   2023 Jul 28, 8:51pm  

Robert Sproul says

And now the BB is losing favor with some astrophysicists, what am I supposed to 'believe' now?

Trust the science!


The scientists are never wrong, until it is discovered they were never really scientific at all.
48   PeopleUnited   @   2023 Jul 28, 9:03pm  

NuttBoxer says

What about religious leaders who have been murdered by their countrymen? I think Jesus may be the only one.

Actually the Romans killed Jesus. But the Jews cheered for His execution. And ultimately He was killed as a sacrifice for our sins. So we are all complicit in His death. The thing is He is not a religious leader. He is God. A religious leader seeks to show people the way of salvation, but Jesus Christ is the way of salvation. I’m convinced that God hates religion, it always gets in the way of truly doing Gods will. Saul who became Paul is the prime example. Paul realized his true calling when he gave up his religion.

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