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Ask all the people who went from an ICE car to EV. Who will go back to ICE and who will never go back. People vote with their checkbook. Let the numbers do the talking.
So? The COST of them is several times over.
No not at all.
Prices are about the same now between Tesla and comparable ICE cars.
But Tesla makes 4X the profit margin (without incentives) than the other automakers making ICE cars.
How does that work unless Tesla has brought down Costs?
You're clueless. Absolutely clueless. And it is because you are willingly so, too.
UkraineIsFucked says
You're clueless. Absolutely clueless. And it is because you are willingly so, too.
Personal back-and-forth is boring. Add some meat to the discussion.
Personal back-and-forth is boring. Add some meat to the discussion.
I provide charts, tables and links to back up my assertions.
Stations are more practical solution. On wall socket my plaid takes about 100h to fully charge at around 12A load! btw, I don't have strong opinion on EVs.
Eman says
I’ve noticed that it seems like the people, who make comments on Tesla, have never owned one.
The Tesla Model Y (even without incentives or anticipated gas savings) was simply cheaper from the start (and much faster and more fun to drive) than all of the other luxury models I was looking buy. Simple as that. I make enough money and drive enough that I am not settling for a Toyota Camry or another Ford Explorer.
Wookieman at least claims to have driven in a Tesla. Apparently his frequent long road trips and hauling requirements make it a no go for him.
Putin Porn Boy just responds with his typical autistic screechy bot type replies thinking he is clever - instead of sounding retarded..
By the way, Tesla is not a status. They’re everywhere in the Bay Area unlike where you live. Just ask the Bay Areans here
Let him be. There’s an ignore button if you ever feel the need to keep your sanity. 😂
Blue says
Stations are more practical solution. On wall socket my plaid takes about 100h to fully charge at around 12A load! btw, I don't have strong opinion on EVs.
Not everyone has a Plaid, and do not always have to go from zero tro full charge. Consider a Bolt EUV or Model 3 owner who lives in an apartment with no ability to install a Level 2 charger. If that guy can plug in at work on 110v, he can replenish 4 miles per hour of charge or 32 miles in an 8-hour workday. Do this every day in his commuter car and he may only have to visit the commercial charging station once a month.
We live in the most innovative region of the world. I don’t blame others for their views and thinking. They don’t know what they don’t know.
Making $500/year ain’t 💩. Maybe it is a lot of money for your area. Driving a Tesla ain’t 💩. Maybe it is a status for your area. When half of the people drive one, there’s no status.
Question. How often to you leave CA? I think a lot of Californians have a distorted view of what the country is and should be.
No need to force EV adoption with incentives, I think it will continue to come along naturally thanks to the amazing engineering at Tesla.
socal2, you own your own business?
socal2 says
No need to force EV adoption with incentives, I think it will continue to come along naturally thanks to the amazing engineering at Tesla.
Correct. But one of those innovations will be a solid-state battery or other battery tech that is an improvement on Lithium-Ion. That will make current Lithium Ion powered cars a nonstarter in the used car market. Not a problem if you had your lithium ion for 10 years of use, but not so good if you bought the last model year of the lithium-ion power.
Alot of my Montana guys at work are interested in the Cybertruck which will be a perfect work truck for around town business.
So seeing a Tesla isn't a big deal because wages have to match the high cost of living.
Why does Tesla focus on making ugly vehicles? They have even less, I assume, restraints on design.
The Cybertruck may look unconventional to some, but beauty is in the eye of the behold
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