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RayAmerica says
However, if you are going to use oils, the worst are soy, sunflower, safflower, canola, corn, cottonseed, refined palm, hydrogenated, ricebran & grapeseed. Also stay away from REFINED peanut, coconut & avocado oils.
In other words, never eat out and never buy any prepared ready to eat foods?
I guess I'm questioning how somebody can get a lot of harmful oils into their body without ordering Chinese take out or fried foods 24/7. How much oil is left in roasted nuts or chips? Can't be that much.
Read the labels on prepared, processed foods. That could be an enlightening experience.
mell says
I guess I'm questioning how somebody can get a lot of harmful oils into their body without ordering Chinese take out or fried foods 24/7. How much oil is left in roasted nuts or chips? Can't be that much.
And the triple triple cheeseburgers... Its always been about moderation...I think a lot of people are worried about heart attacks now. Especially with the "sudden death syndrome" and the clot shot.
petroleum is edible.
If the FDA 'approves' something, you can bet your bottom dollar that their approval is based upon 'studies' that were paid for by the very industries that they are supposed to be regulating.
All 'oil' should be used in very limited quantities (including butter, which is very high in fat). It has been proven through non-FDA, corporate corrupted sponsored studies that oil contributes to the formation of plaque in arteries, leading to heart disease, strokes, etc.
Patrick palm kernel oil contains tricaprin, which according to latest studies not only protects, but reverses coronary artery / heart disease! It's not that easy to vilify all vegetable/fruit/seed oils. The science is always changing! In general palm, palm kernel, mct and coconut oils are considered heart healthy now.
I'm undecided about these:
- soybean oil
- sunflower seed oil
- avocado oil
- coconut oil
- peanut oil
To date I haven't seen any study that suggests oils or fats per se are bad for the arteries.
mell says
To date I haven't seen any study that suggests oils or fats per se are bad for the arteries.
It depends on what the oils hydrogenation temperature is. As long as you stay under that, the oil will not get sludgy at room temp. That's why Avocado is one of the best.
mell says
Patrick palm kernel oil contains tricaprin, which according to latest studies not only protects, but reverses coronary artery / heart disease! It's not that easy to vilify all vegetable/fruit/seed oils. The science is always changing! In general palm, palm kernel, mct and coconut oils are considered heart healthy now.
Almost every positive 'study' that is produced is financed by corporations. It works in a similar way to the prosecution and the defense calling "experts" in order to testify in a trial. Both experts are hired by the different sides in order to provide the testimony that fits with their side. That's precisely why we keep seeing conflicting reports, all based upon 'independent studies.'
Trust NOTHING by the FDA, which is loaded with political appointments from the corporations.
I don't know that I trust any studies anymore though. If so many were rigged by pharma, a lot are probably rigged by some other industries too.
I doubt these studies are tainted.
Sure but this research is not FDA related or corporation sponsored, also medium chain fatty acids have been deemed healthy for quite a long time now.
Problem with the alternative diet recommendations, is the guy recommending will promote and advertise what he sells vs. everything else.
nobody recommends starches, refined wheat flour products, cereals, fast food chips or certain oils like Canola or margarine.
nobody recommends starches, refined wheat flour products, cereals, fast food chips or certain oils like Canola or margarine.
I think this is is best. Based on Dr. Gundry(comes off as a quack), but it really cleared up some inflammation issues. Instead of sugar, I use Stevia which takes some time to get used to, but once you do, eating sugar seems weird.
Ceffer says
nobody recommends starches, refined wheat flour products, cereals, fast food chips or certain oils like Canola or margarine.
Tufts University 'Food Compass'
I use Stevia which takes some time to get used to, but once you do, eating sugar seems weird.
Ceffer says
nobody recommends starches, refined wheat flour products, cereals, fast food chips or certain oils like Canola or margarine.
Tufts University 'Food Compass'
Dholliday126 says
I use Stevia which takes some time to get used to, but once you do, eating sugar seems weird.
I used Stevia too.
If you're using Kal brand, they've recently changed their formulation somehow. It used to be "Pure Stevia" now it's "Sure Stevia".
Stevia is kind of cool in that a tiny bottle, lasts me literally more than a year. It's like $50 for a bottle of the powder, but it lasts forever. Stevia is very similar in flavor to saccharine, but it's (supposedly) healthier. I don't make much use of sweeteners, although I do like Chai and lemonade from time to time. Chai is just strongly brewed tea plus cardamon and ginger - you brew it with cracked cardamon pods and a slice or two of ginger root. I make a hell of a lot of it at once.
Stevia does NOT like dissolving in cold liquids, but it will eventually. I make coffee tea - use instant coffe...
There hasn't been a single non-sugar sweetener (artificial or natural), with the exception of sugar alcohol and monk fruit in moderation, which hasn't felt a bit off in the stomach. I'll stick with real sugar or honey (love honey) 99% of the time. Stevia is not bad though
mell says
There hasn't been a single non-sugar sweetener (artificial or natural), with the exception of sugar alcohol and monk fruit in moderation, which hasn't felt a bit off in the stomach. I'll stick with real sugar or honey (love honey) 99% of the time. Stevia is not bad though
I just try to avoid drinking calories and I don't drink much anyhow, unless it's in the form of some sort of beer. Do goddamned love beer. I wish there was a decent beer made, that had the alcohol removed, instead of it just being under-brewed. Seems like they could do it through a vacuum distillation process. There's a few sodas that are decent, THEY are brewed. You can't beat the complexity of a brewed product.
I recently heard one good rule for deciding what to eat: if it has to be advertised, you probably shouldn't eat it.
Lately I've discovered that Trader Joe's has a decent brandy for $10, looks like this:
It's really a bargain. You might get 20 shots out of it, so 50 cents each.
I'm no expert on brandy though. My only test is "Does it make me cringe?" This one does not.
Ceffer says
nobody recommends starches, refined wheat flour products, cereals, fast food chips or certain oils like Canola or margarine.
Tufts University 'Food Compass'
Seed Oils are Slowly Poisoning Us & Our Children.
...and they are in EVERYTHING.
https://joshketry.substack.com/p/seed-oils-are-slowly-poisoning-us
Seed Oils are Slowly Poisoning Us & Our Children.
...and they are in EVERYTHING.
Not sure I agree with it all, but I remain very suspicious of all the new oils, especially rapeseed oil, aka "canola oil".
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Which of them are worth avoiding entirely?
Here are the fats and oils I think are bad:
- margarine (which is just canola and other crap oils hardened to make them stick in your arteries better)
- canola oil
- cottonseed oil (especially bad)
- palm kernel oil
I'm undecided about these:
- soybean oil
- sunflower seed oil
- avocado oil
- coconut oil
- peanut oil
I'm sure these are pretty good for you:
- olive oil
- butter
- lard (yes, I think lard is OK to eat)