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mell says
To date I haven't seen any study that suggests oils or fats per se are bad for the arteries.
It depends on what the oils hydrogenation temperature is. As long as you stay under that, the oil will not get sludgy at room temp. That's why Avocado is one of the best.
mell says
Patrick palm kernel oil contains tricaprin, which according to latest studies not only protects, but reverses coronary artery / heart disease! It's not that easy to vilify all vegetable/fruit/seed oils. The science is always changing! In general palm, palm kernel, mct and coconut oils are considered heart healthy now.
Almost every positive 'study' that is produced is financed by corporations. It works in a similar way to the prosecution and the defense calling "experts" in order to testify in a trial. Both experts are hired by the different sides in order to provide the testimony that fits with their side. That's precisely why we keep seeing conflicting reports, all based upon 'independent studies.'
Trust NOTHING by the FDA, which is loaded with political appointments from the corporations.
I don't know that I trust any studies anymore though. If so many were rigged by pharma, a lot are probably rigged by some other industries too.
I doubt these studies are tainted.
Sure but this research is not FDA related or corporation sponsored, also medium chain fatty acids have been deemed healthy for quite a long time now.
Problem with the alternative diet recommendations, is the guy recommending will promote and advertise what he sells vs. everything else.
nobody recommends starches, refined wheat flour products, cereals, fast food chips or certain oils like Canola or margarine.
nobody recommends starches, refined wheat flour products, cereals, fast food chips or certain oils like Canola or margarine.
I think this is is best. Based on Dr. Gundry(comes off as a quack), but it really cleared up some inflammation issues. Instead of sugar, I use Stevia which takes some time to get used to, but once you do, eating sugar seems weird.
Ceffer says
nobody recommends starches, refined wheat flour products, cereals, fast food chips or certain oils like Canola or margarine.
Tufts University 'Food Compass'
I use Stevia which takes some time to get used to, but once you do, eating sugar seems weird.
Ceffer says
nobody recommends starches, refined wheat flour products, cereals, fast food chips or certain oils like Canola or margarine.
Tufts University 'Food Compass'
Dholliday126 says
I use Stevia which takes some time to get used to, but once you do, eating sugar seems weird.
I used Stevia too.
If you're using Kal brand, they've recently changed their formulation somehow. It used to be "Pure Stevia" now it's "Sure Stevia".
Stevia is kind of cool in that a tiny bottle, lasts me literally more than a year. It's like $50 for a bottle of the powder, but it lasts forever. Stevia is very similar in flavor to saccharine, but it's (supposedly) healthier. I don't make much use of sweeteners, although I do like Chai and lemonade from time to time. Chai is just strongly brewed tea plus cardamon and ginger - you brew it with cracked cardamon pods and a slice or two of ginger root. I make a hell of a lot of it at once.
Stevia does NOT like dissolving in cold liquids, but it will eventually. I make coffee tea - use instant coffe...
There hasn't been a single non-sugar sweetener (artificial or natural), with the exception of sugar alcohol and monk fruit in moderation, which hasn't felt a bit off in the stomach. I'll stick with real sugar or honey (love honey) 99% of the time. Stevia is not bad though
mell says
There hasn't been a single non-sugar sweetener (artificial or natural), with the exception of sugar alcohol and monk fruit in moderation, which hasn't felt a bit off in the stomach. I'll stick with real sugar or honey (love honey) 99% of the time. Stevia is not bad though
I just try to avoid drinking calories and I don't drink much anyhow, unless it's in the form of some sort of beer. Do goddamned love beer. I wish there was a decent beer made, that had the alcohol removed, instead of it just being under-brewed. Seems like they could do it through a vacuum distillation process. There's a few sodas that are decent, THEY are brewed. You can't beat the complexity of a brewed product.
I recently heard one good rule for deciding what to eat: if it has to be advertised, you probably shouldn't eat it.
Lately I've discovered that Trader Joe's has a decent brandy for $10, looks like this:
It's really a bargain. You might get 20 shots out of it, so 50 cents each.
I'm no expert on brandy though. My only test is "Does it make me cringe?" This one does not.
Ceffer says
nobody recommends starches, refined wheat flour products, cereals, fast food chips or certain oils like Canola or margarine.
Tufts University 'Food Compass'
Seed Oils are Slowly Poisoning Us & Our Children.
...and they are in EVERYTHING.
https://joshketry.substack.com/p/seed-oils-are-slowly-poisoning-us
Seed Oils are Slowly Poisoning Us & Our Children.
...and they are in EVERYTHING.
Not sure I agree with it all, but I remain very suspicious of all the new oils, especially rapeseed oil, aka "canola oil".
A meat only diet is not what I would recommend. To each their own.
mell says
A meat only diet is not what I would recommend. To each their own.
I go by the hypothesis that our ancestors fit their environment in order to survive in it, and we wouldn't exist, if they were killed by their environment. It was a tremendous advantage to have grandparents help raise children 1000 years ago.
For "my people", refined sugar didn't exist, beer did, but not refined alcohol. They got meat, on occasion, but often ate boiled vegetables. They had plenty of access to milk and eggs, but cheese not so much. Spices were a rarity. Salt wasn't too easy to get, but it was around, and they physically worked a lot.
Certain oils just didn't exist. Butter did, but not vegetable oil. Olive oil was a rarity and probably a treat. Lard was around, so was beef fat.
I'm Irish and Polish, I'd rather be dead than exist on their diet though. Polish f...
I consider a boiled potato with skin, given it's not laced with pesticides (preferably organic origin), a perfectly healthy food (similarly carrots/yams). Superfood so to say. Gentle on the stomach and gives you almost all the nutrients you need, readily and easily to absorb, high in potassium. That's why I think potato chips aren't necessarily bad for you, in moderation. Not as good as the real potato deal though of course.
A meat only diet is not what I would recommend.
I consider a boiled potato with skin, given it's not laced with pesticides (preferably organic origin), a perfectly healthy food (similarly carrots/yams). Superfood so to say. Gentle on the stomach and gives you almost all the nutrients you need, readily and easily to absorb, high in potassium. That's why I think potato chips aren't necessarily bad for you, in moderation. Not as good as the real potato deal though of course.
Especially omega 6 is not bad for you, I consider walnuts one of the healtiest foods to eat and they are high in omega 6.
Dholliday126 says
I think this is is best. Based on Dr. Gundry(comes off as a quack), but it really cleared up some inflammation issues. Instead of sugar, I use Stevia which takes some time to get used to, but once you do, eating sugar seems weird.
He gets a lot right, but there's a bunch of good food on his Don't Eat list. That's my biggest problem with any of these people. If you become too restrictive, you have to really embrace variety in other places, or you end up malnourished.
A big miss on that graphic, nuts need to be raw, and refrigerated after opening. Otherwise the oils become rancid.
Honey is a complex sugar, one of the best things you can eat, especially for seasonal allergies. Yogurt has naturally occurring pro-biotics, and consumption through food is always better absorbed than through pills. Quinoa is a complete protein, Basmati rice is...
I have a rule while traveling:
Don't eat food with a SYSCO Barcode. This would be all your chain restaurants like Olive Garden, BJ's, Red Robin, et al. Fast food only if you're really in a hurry (or craving, I guess.)
Look for one-offs with Yelp or Trip Advisor.
I find it darkly amusing that our overlords are so dead set on eliminating tobacco, which can slightly reduce birth weight doncha know, while force-feeding the plebs toxic seed oils that are almost certainly a primary reason for the obesity crisis. Seed oils, more often referred to as ‘vegetable’ oils, appear to systematically slow down metabolic function, meaning people who get a large fraction of their calories from these sources are burning less energy than they should be at a baseline level when they’re just sitting there doing nothing. The connection between metabolic slowing and the spike in obesity over recent decades should be obvious – sedentary lifestyles are doubtless a factor, but we aren’t that much physically lazier than we were in, say, the 50s. No one went to the gym back then, yet no one was fat. Odd, no?
Canola oil is made by slightly heating and crushing canola seeds at a processing facility. The seeds are then flaked to release the oil. Almost all commercial canola oil is extracted using hexane solvent, which is recovered at the end of processing. The extracted oil is refined using water precipitation and organic acid to remove gums and free fatty acids, filtering to remove color, and deodorizing using steam distillation.
Exposure to n-hexane can cause neurotoxicity, leading to symptoms such as vertigo, giddiness, and drowsiness. Longer-term exposures can lead to peripheral neuropathy, with symmetrical paraesthesia and weakness, particularly in the lower extremities.
Historically, it was restricted as a food oil due to its content of erucic acid, which in laboratory studies was shown to be damaging to the cardiac muscle of laboratory animals in high quantities and which imparts a bitter taste, and glucosinolates, which made it less nutritious in animal feed.[1][2] Rapeseed oil from standard cultivars can contain up to 54% erucic acid.[3]
Canola oil is a food-grade version developed in Canada (hence the name, see below) derived from rapeseed cultivars specifically bred for low erucic acid content. Also known as low erucic acid rapeseed (LEAR) oil, it has been generally recognized as safe by the United States Food and Drug Administration.[4] Canola oil is limited by government regulation to a maximum of 2% erucic acid by weight in the US[4] and the EU,[5] with special regulations for infant food. These low levels of erucic acid do not cause harm in humans.[4][6]
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Which of them are worth avoiding entirely?
Here are the fats and oils I think are bad:
- margarine (which is just canola and other crap oils hardened to make them stick in your arteries better)
- canola oil
- cottonseed oil (especially bad)
- palm kernel oil
I'm undecided about these:
- soybean oil
- sunflower seed oil
- avocado oil
- coconut oil
- peanut oil
I'm sure these are pretty good for you:
- olive oil
- butter
- lard (yes, I think lard is OK to eat)