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GNL says

I drink Yuengling.

I remember why I quit drinking it. At the time I was playing music with an opinionated asshole that hated Yuengling. He liked believe it or not, "Bud Light".
I settled on St Pally Girl, and Becks and never looked back. I remember liking Yuengling before the switch.

ANNNNNNNNNNNNNND, they caved.

The trannie is out and Pro-America is back on its ads.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11978995/Budweiser-releases-patriotic-new-ad-featuring-Clydesdales-American-landmarks.html

Did they fire anyone over this yet?

GNL says

I drink Yuengling.

So do! .

Misc says

ANNNNNNNNNNNNNND, they caved.

The trannie is out and Pro-America is back on its ads.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11978995/Budweiser-releases-patriotic-new-ad-featuring-Clydesdales-American-landmarks.html

Maybe the Clydesdales have had the balls cut off as well.

Booger says

Did they fire anyone over this yet?

NO they seem to be getting the Republicans to offer themselves up to be Unfriended by the constituency.

Don Jr. tried to butter up the public, saying Budweiser did nuffin wrong. Then he got his ass handed to him. They are probably big donors to his Dad, the GOPe, and the Democrats. They have all of their bases covered. Don Jr. would do wise to just let that donor go.

Budweiser and Budweiser alone will have to atone for what they have done. And it was very foolish and short sighted of Don to weigh in before Budweiser has even made a conscionable effort make nice or rectify their error. They haven't even admitted their error, in any way shape or form.
Don's behavior is reminiscent of the way the CCP get their do boys to cow tail and fall in line. Dan Bonjingo also weighed in and got slapped back..

Tenpoundbass says

Budweiser and Budweiser alone will have to atone for what they have done. And it was very foolish and short sighted of Don to weigh in before Budweiser has even made a conscionable effort make nice or rectify their error.

This isn't an error.

When is the last time anybody even MENTIONED Budweiser. In a month, you'll have forgotten who Dylan Mulvaney even was. Do you remember who Suey Park was, how about Zoe Quinn, or Anita Sarkessian? Every few years we get somebody acting like a COMPLETE asshole so we pay attention to them, because they are so immoral and disgusting as people, you can't help look away.

Anita Sarkeesian is a complete liar and hypocrite, THAT'S why she became famous. Suey Park is a fucking racist, complete bigot. Zoe Quinn is just a narcissistic, untalented whore. We only know of these people because we're so disgusted by them.

Mulvaney's shtick is he's ANYTHING but a woman. If he just just RESEMBLED a woman in either action or dress, or whatever, nobody would care. If Budweiser slapped Amanda Lepore's image on a can, you'd have no idea. The reason Mulvaney is even known about is everybody hates him. Amanda LePore looks like a disfigured inflatable fuck doll, but it still passes as a woman, sort of - a grotesque one:



It's more kind of a cartoon than a human being. At least it has a woman's figure. Perhaps he was truly born intersex, but ugh, I don't like the look. It's inhuman.

Ratioed into oblivion.

Negative comment to like ratio is immense.

https://notthebee.com/article/bud-light-tweeted-for-the-first-time-since-dylan-mulvaney-gate-so-come-enjoy-the-ratio

Not only will I never drink a Bud again, I will find out all related brands and avoid them, and tell everyone I know for the rest of my life to avoid them. I will not even remain in the presence of anyone drinking any of them. That's how much I loathe Bud now.

https://www.anheuser-busch.com/brands

AVOID:

10 Barrel
Beck's
Blue Point
Bon & Viv Spiked Seltzer
Breckenridge Brewery
Bud Light
Budweiser
Busch
Corona
Devils Backbone Brewing
Elysian Brewing
Fordham Brewing
Four Peaks Brewery
Golden Road Brewing
Goose Island Brewery
Green Valley Brewing
Hoegaarden
Hurricane
Johnny Appleseed
Karbach Brewing
King Cobra
Kona Brewing
LandShark Lager
Michelob
Modelo
Natural
Natural Light
Old Dominion Brewing
Omission Beer
Quilmes
Redbridge
Redhook
Rolling Rock
Shock Top
Spykes
Square Mile Cider
Stella Artois
Tilt
Wicked Weed Brewing
Widmer Brothers
Wild Blue Lager
Ziegenbock

Patrick says

Not only will I never drink a Bud again, I will find out all related brands and avoid them, and tell everyone I know for the rest of my life to avoid them. I will not even remain in the presence of anyone drinking any of them. That's how much I loathe Bud now.

https://www.anheuser-busch.com/brands

10 Barrel
Beck's
Blue Point
Bon & Viv Spiked Seltzer
Breckenridge Brewery
Bud Light
Budweiser
Busch
Corona
Devils Backbone Brewing
Elysian Brewing
Fordham Brewing
Four Peaks Brewery
Golden Road Brewing
Goose Island Brewery
Green Valley Brewing
Hoegaarden
Hurricane
Johnny Appleseed
Karbach Brewing
King Cobra
Kona Brewing
LandShark Lager
Michelob
Modelo
Natural
Natural Light
Old Dominion Brewing
Omission Beer
Quilmes
Redbridge
Redhook
Rolling Rock
Shock Top
Spykes
Square Mile Cider
Stel...

I'm going to disagree. As far as branding Busch is the manliest beer marketing I've seen of any beer. You got to remember these are brands under the umbrella. Goose Island out of Chicago is still Goose Island out of Chicago. I believe the brand is still run by the founders, they just collected a huge paycheck to sell to InBev. That was 10 years or so ago, so maybe the relationship has changed.

I don't like Corona, but commercials with chicks in bikinis on the beach is fine by me. Busch seasonal cans are awesome.

They made a massive mistake with Bud. I wouldn't punish these other beers because of it though unless they go the tranny route as well. You can wipe Bud out, but they're still going to make massive profits. 95% of people don't even know half these beers or that InBev owns the brands and will buy them. It's not like they bought these brands and moved them to St. Louis. They're independent contractors so to speak. So you hurt the local economies of the other beers that had zero input on the process. I like a lot of beers on that list. I will continue to buy them. And I'd like to meetup at some point in the future, just know if we have some beers it's likely on this list for me.

I don't guess you for much of a beach, guy, but come on. A Red Stripe in the Caribbean is one of the best things on the planet beer wise. St. John, USVI. We had shows with the band at Goose Island, Wrigleyville location, solid beer. Modelo. Hoegaarden. Stella. Bud, Busch and Mich I think are the only ones InBev actively brews in St. Louis. I think most are in their region of origin. I could be wrong.

Not sure if Kona was always owned by Anheuser, they had some good beers like their coconut porter. One brand you're missing is Encinitas. Bought by Anheuser several years ago.

Pabst fielded the winning beer at the Chicago World's Fair (1892?) which is when they slapped the "blue ribbon" on it

stfu says

Pabst fielded the winning beer at the Chicago World's Fair (1892?) which is when they slapped the "blue ribbon" on it

Is it a good beer? I don't think I've ever had it.

It's fine. I believe brewed in Milwaukee. Popular college beer but not shitty like Natural. Might not be sold in your region. Just like they don't sell Yuengling in the Chicagoland region.

Pabst jumped the shark in the 80''s. They were once the preferred Red Blooded American beer of choice.
Budweiser was the Biker bar beer. Remember the Budweiser man in the 70's, he was always on a chopper.
Pabst changed their brewing methods and formula sometime in the 80's and turned into beer that one would compare to Natural and Black Label.

I have found the quality of Miller Highlife from region to region will differ. In South Carolina it was the cheap go to beer, for a BBQ or tailgate party. Where as here in South Florida you couldn't force someone to drink it.

From Wiki

Paul Kalmanovitz, a self-made beer and real-estate baron, purchased the Pabst Brewing company in 1985 for $63 million in a hostile takeover through the auspices of his holding company S&P Co.; S&P Co.'s first brewery was Maier Brewing Company, purchased in 1958.When Kalmanovitz died in 1987, S&P became legally inseparable from the Kalmanovitz Charitable Trust.

In 1996, Pabst's entire beer production was contracted out to the Stroh Brewery Company, which utilized excess capacity at the former flagship brewery of the G. Heileman Brewing Company of La Crosse, Wisconsin it had absorbed earlier that year. In turn, the historic Pabst brewery in Milwaukee was closed

Pabst is what white trash drink before they get into brawls.

Bud tries to get back into good graces by running a sudden "Pro-America" ad the other day.

Here is the ad, with some commentary

https://twitter.com/i/status/1647887188422524930?ref_src=patrick.net

Obvious "Damage Control" is obvious.

NuttBoxer says

Pabst is what white trash drink before they get into brawls.

Pabst was the hipster drink for a while, where yuppie twats would drink it "to be ironic". I seriously can't tell the difference between Budweiser, Miller, Pabst, Michelob, Steel Reserve, Corona, etc - maybe if I tasted them side by side I could. But they are all kind of weak tasteless beers that are vaguely distasteful. I'd put KingFisher and Corona in that category as well. I just never developed a taste for it, and I do drink beer.

Used to like stouts for a long time, but that's just too heavy, so red and browns, they're pleasant. I do like IPAs but a lot of people complain about them being too hoppy, well, I like hops, now, I guess, since I've ruined my palette perhaps? ESBs are pleasant too, but again, they are pretty heavy as a beer. It's not like you can drink 6 of them and have a good night's sleep.

There's whole categories of beer, I've just never been able to enjoy Pilsners. One of the best beers I EVER had though was some weird light colored beer that was brewed in Earl Grey tea - it was WEIRD, but great. What a bizarre but enjoyable flavor. I don't think it's made anymore, I must have been the only person on the planet that liked it. There was another beer called Caffrees which was I think a Pilsner, but it was nitro, not carbon dioxide. Very smooth, very weird beer. I could only get that in Boston. I think they are gone too.

PBR was the cheapest beer in SF for many years, some Mission bars used to have 25 cent per can, then 50 cent per can days.

richwicks says

Pabst was the hipster drink for a while, where yuppie twats would drink it "to be ironic". I seriously can't tell the difference between Budweiser, Miller, Pabst, Michelob, Steel Reserve, Corona, etc - maybe if I tasted them side by side I could. But they are all kind of weak tasteless beers that are vaguely distasteful. I'd put KingFisher and Corona in that category as well. I just never developed a taste for it, and I do drink beer.

Yep, and probably full of rice, which is a violation of pretty much every Beer Purity Standard ever published.

AmericanKulak says

Yep, and probably full of rice, which is a violation of pretty much every Beer Purity Standard ever published.

I don't mind if a drink is adulterated by a "non traditional ingredient". Fusion cooking is great after all, generally. I've had amazing "Chinese food" flavored with Mexican spices. It was just so unusual. I'm sure "Chinese food" generally is flavored with "American spices".

My problem is the beer isn't very good. After WWII, you had a lot of soldiers returning with shell shock and the horror of war, so they produced crappy beer in huge volumes. That's the hypothesis I've heard. I knew a few veterans from WWII, and we were warned not to ask about the shit they went through. I knew a guy (as a child, he was an adult) whose job was pulling out bodies from Normandy. My uncle photographed Hiroshima and Nagasaki after the bombing.

I'm anti-war because I know it's fucking awful. They were kids when they got into that shitshow, and they didn't recover from it.

Hey @"Mostly Reader" you still think this fucking war is a good idea? Still hoping for a "side" to win? End the war, the longer it goes on, the more horrific it is. That's all war is. It's just legalized murder, and Russia has superior weapons and better trained people, you can hate that, but that's the situation. The longer it goes on, the more people die. Fucking hate war. I've never experienced it, because I learned before 10, nobody wants to experience it. Everybody that signs up, doesn't know shit about it and I've seen broken men that came out of it and they all knew plenty of people that never came out of it.

WWII could have been EASILY avoided, but Germany was basically a slave population to the banking system, and Hitler took them out of it. That's why he was popular, he defaulted on the Versailles Treaty - a war they didn't even start. He revitalized the economy, abandoning the traditional banking system, made Germany self sufficient, and the rest of Europe couldn't have that, then Germany got crazy. Russia is becoming self-sufficient. Oh no, that can't be fucking allowed, let's blow up the fucking planet to prevent it. Let's all die so some fucking banking assholes can remain in power, that's worth it!

The reason the West has been picking and poking at the bear in Russia, is THEY are threatening to become self sufficient, and now they largely are. Libay got taken out for the same reason, they were threatening to become independent of the Western Banking system. Libya had a lot of gold, didn't need Western Banks to fund wars or fight back, they had plenty of gold... Hopefully our banking system will lose this one, because it would be better for the world. We have a predator banking system, and all wars are banker wars. You just don't know.

WookieMan says

I'm going to disagree. As far as branding Busch is the manliest beer marketing I've seen of any beer.

NO.

The manliest marketing is "fuck you, we're awesome, try it and find out."

All marketing is gay. Women, old people, retards, and gay men pay attention to commercials. Nobody else does. Television is for fags, old people, retards, and woman, no offense - you can see this in the marketing - they are appealing to their marketing demographic. When you watch television, pay attention to the commercials, because the commercial is meant to appeal to the viewer. Or it's just a bribe for social conformance, you'll see this often in news, why does Raytheon advertise on "news", or say, Pfizer? That's because you're not watching a commercial, you're watching a bribe.

I might have tried something ONCE because of marketing, but I largely just turn off all marketing. I got rid of my TV decades ago, and my Internet blocks all adds. If you have to advertise, it's because you suck as a producer of a product. You can't stand on your product, you have to depend on brainwashing - you know, propaganda, to convince the public that your shitty, inferior product, isn't a shitty product.

The only reason people think that TacoBell is good, is because of marketing. You pay for that marketing. Go to hole in the wall shithole (it's important it's a off the beaten path!) mom and pop place, and burrito or taco will be better, or AT LEAST AS GOOD as you can get from a chain. Same thing with burgers. Got a deli that doesn't advertise? Try them instead of Subway. Advertising costs money, you pay for the product, it's an inferior product. Hole in the wall survives because they produce superior products and not superior propaganda. The scariest places I've gone to, have the best food - for the price. I've been to great places, that are expensive, that gets tiresome paying for their rent.

It's the same for everything, nearly.

The problem is finding the product. For food, you're better off trying random places and ignore the Internet, it's a bunch of slobs expecting service and so on, and shills for corporate brands. Some of the best food I've had was literally out of a gas station. They made a mean breakfast. It was catering to truckers and people going to their blue collar jobs, it was great. Blue collar workers keep our society from going to shit.

BTW, trust me with Yelp, I knew people that were being shaken down by them. Give them extra money, they'll give you better reviews, or rather, they suppressed negative reviews. It's not an honest system. Somebody that pays a lot of money will get great reviews (and you pay for that) and somebody that refuses that gets a lower review and you actually get service and quality you're looking for. Yelp isn't useful now.

richwicks says

I don't mind if a drink is adulterated by a "non traditional ingredient". Fusion cooking is great after all, generally. I've had amazing "Chinese food" flavored with Mexican spices. It was just so unusual. I'm sure "Chinese food" generally is flavored with "American spices".

Cheese, Tomatoes and Potatoes are about the only non traditional food item they cook with.
It would take a dufus American hipster to make a Beef and Broccoli with Bullseye BBQ sauce.

I find it's the other way around. There are many Chinese pantry ingredients that benefit some classic Western cuisine dishes.

For example I have replaced Kitchen Boutique(A gravy darkener) with Dark Soy sauce(basically the same thing, but not as bitter if you over do it.)
I find many Savory dishes that will have Soy Sauce and Worstershire sauce.

For dark beers I like Belgium. Complex, and almost like a meal they're so hearty.
I've actually gone back to enjoying hoppy West Coast style IPA's lately, as the whole IPA style has moved so heavily into floral, fruity, hazy with almost no bitterness. Give me ABV's! I'm also a huge fan of sours, wild fermentation, no kettle. There's a company in San Diego, California Wild Ales, that only makes wild fermented. Most unique style's I've had from them, beet, and one that tasted like cheese(stinky feet). Another odd beer I had was an experimental from Ballest Point(before the buyout), made with Oregano. Very good.

When I first started drinking was only Heineken. Eventually I moved to Newcastle. Then started trying craft beer. If you only drink macro-brews, you are missing out on a whole world of flavor and complexity, and you'll never know what your favorite beer style is. There's too much good beer in the world to only drink one.

I used to love New Castle, then they something happened to them, they got over priced, and I can't drink a 6 pack without getting that nasty hangover that normally comes from over processed beers like Budweiser. I think they screwed with the formula to keep up with production demand. They were everywhere for a while. Now I don't see them as much. That could be because InBev knocked them off the shelves. Distributors will make their customers not carry other brands. I think that has happened to Anchor Steam and Shiner Bock as well. As I never see those at places that I used to see them.

I'm pissed I can't find Anchor Steam.

LOL I saw Branco in an interview. If you saw that guy on the street, you would assume he is a used car lot manager.

He doesn't look the part as one of the best political cartoonist. Well neither does Garrison, he looks like a Ranch worker.

Tenpoundbass says

I used to love New Castle, then they something happened to them, they got over priced, and I can't drink a 6 pack without getting that nasty hangover that normally comes from over processed beers like Budweiser. I think they screwed with the formula to keep up with production demand. They were everywhere for a while. Now I don't see them as much. That could be because InBev knocked them off the shelves. Distributors will make their customers not carry other brands. I think that has happened to Anchor Steam and Shiner Bock as well. As I never see those at places that I used to see them.

Yeah, Newcastle was my go to. I've noticed an aftertaste that wasn't there before. I gotta get back into brewing my own shit again.

NuttBoxer says

Pabst is what white trash drink before they get into brawls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56duVYLsd4Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKZqGJONH68

Tenpoundbass says

For example I have replaced Kitchen Boutique(A gravy darkener) with Dark Soy sauce(basically the same thing, but not as bitter if you over do it.)
I find many Savory dishes that will have Soy Sauce and Worstershire sauce.

I have a recommendation for you, try "black salt" - you can get it at any Indian store, and it's not black, it's pink.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GFGQ38G?th=1&language=en_US

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kala_namak

What it really is, is salt with sulfur in it. I use that all the time. It's not really a table salt, but when you're cooking, it really adds a bunch of flavor.

There's a lot of common spices and flavors of other nations, that I think ought to be more popular. The first time you have black salt, you're going to notice "oh, that's the flavor in Indian food", and it is.

AmericanKulak says

Tenpoundbass says

I used to love New Castle, then they something happened to them, they got over priced, and I can't drink a 6 pack without getting that nasty hangover that normally comes from over processed beers like Budweiser. I think they screwed with the formula to keep up with production demand. They were everywhere for a while. Now I don't see them as much. That could be because InBev knocked them off the shelves. Distributors will make their customers not carry other brands. I think that has happened to Anchor Steam and Shiner Bock as well. As I never see those at places that I used to see them.

Yeah, Newcastle was my go to. I've noticed an aftertaste that wasn't there before. I gotta get back into brewing my own shit again.

@Tenpoundbass

NewCastle was sold in 2017 and that's when they screwed up:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_Brown_Ale#Move_to_Zoeterwoude_Brewery,_the_Netherlands

It's not the same beer. You can't buy the original beer anymore.

That's what happened!

I mostly drink IPA's or wine to get my buzz on and drink Michelob Ultra to be responsible and hydrate.

I live in ground zero of the IPA world and my local pizza place (Pizza Port) makes great IPA's.