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2023 Oct 5, 3:05pm   903 views  20 comments

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OK. I admit. I do try and price compare amazon on items as sometimes I have found large variances, especially in specialty items (like recirc pumps , etc).
And if the price is about the same I have no problem ordering directly from the vendor.

But, I am just about to give up on wasting my time. The last few orders I placed with other vendors simply didn't get fulfilled correctly.
I ordered three nebo flashlights - not cheap, but mid-price - and a few days later I get the order slip showing all 3 but only 2 in the actual box.
And they are not the only vendor with an order picking problem I do call up, give them the order#, and they apologize and say they will ship
me the missing product. But still, I don't like it. They need to get these orders 100% correct when you are relying on remote delivery. I am not sure
why they trusted me to say that I only got two and was missing one. I feel like it puts the onus on me to correct their problems and I keep waiting for them to say "you are lying!" - which would really piss me off.

And, also recently, bought an expensive automatic watch but was delivered an empty box. It was several emails and pics back and forth before they admitted they likely had a problem with their fulfillment center. But again - how do you prove a "box was empty when I opened it up". What if they got stubborn and said that I simply wanted a "second" one?

So while not an Amazon fan and hate their dominance, I never have problems with them. Returns are super easy (though I hardly ever return).
Ordering is easy. These 3rd parties need to do better. If there is a problem with Amazon it is not in the order picking but a misrepresentation of what was bought. And then you just return.

Maybe I just have bad luck...
Venting.

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1   beershrine   2023 Oct 5, 3:54pm  

Amazon vendors are not treated well the percent charged is criminal. Some vendors stock nothing but buy ship 3rd party same thing happening on ebay. Some ebayers use Amazon shipping on ebay I see it happening all the time. 3rd parties should wise up and quit because there making little money and can't QC there products. Buyers should really ask sellers a few questions before purchase to see how bright these people are. I don't buy based on easy returns that means the item is crap.
lol
2   WookieMan   2023 Oct 5, 6:00pm  

I HATE Amazon. They're the best in the shipping game though hands down, at least where they deliver themselves or ship through USPS. Everything is accurate as fuck. It's rather amazing logistically. UPS and FedEx are not on the same level.

Now is it fair that they ride on the backs of USPS to deliver a lot of rural stuff, probably not and probably at a loss for USPS. But the system is pretty fucking seamless. And yes vendors and sellers are getting screwed over by Amazon. Especially the copy cat Chinese bull shit that uses the name brand names yet isn't the brand name product. That's where they absolutely suck.
3   richwicks   2023 Oct 5, 6:38pm  

WookieMan says

I HATE Amazon. They're the best in the shipping game though hands down, at least where they deliver themselves or ship through USPS. Everything is accurate as fuck. It's rather amazing logistically. UPS and FedEx are not on the same level.


Amazon is funded directly by the government. All the intelligence agencies store all their information at AWS. This is a government power grab to destroy competition, once it's gone Amazon will go to crap.
4   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Oct 5, 8:40pm  

krc says

I never have problems with them. Returns are super easy (though I hardly ever return).
Ordering is easy.


Why would you. You only have to give them your personal identity and home address, then allow them to track your purchasing history. But maybe you think you can shop from Amazon without revealing who you are or where you live? No fucking way. They called my bank and attempted to get records without my consent. I was at a credit union, and bank said fuck no. Cancelled service after that. I did try to order items once or twice, but the account gets locked immediately, and wouldn't get unlocked without some very personal documents being submitted to prove my identity.

Amazon is a natural extension of the CBDC system. It's already setup that way. They absolutely will not do business without your identity. But the convenience..!

I still order lots of stuff online, never have to overpay. The only issues I have are USPS shipping fuck ups.
5   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2023 Oct 5, 9:17pm  

I try to avoid Amazon. Still when I buy stuff apparently with no relation it shows up in an Amazon box.
7   AD   2025 Feb 27, 7:29pm  

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Both Amazon and Google score in the 90's out of a max Guru Focus score of 100 , which means highest outperformance potential.

Amazon is more overvalued than Google, as Guru Focus says Google is fairly valued now.




8   AD   2025 Feb 28, 11:14pm  

Somebodies bought a shit load of Amazon stock in the last 5 minutes of trading today, about 14.6 million shares (and estimated value of $3.1 billion).

That explains the jump from $209.81 to over $212 in a matter of the last 5 minutes of trading today.


9   AD   2025 Mar 7, 8:18pm  

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Amazon was at $192.53. Its recent all time high (ATH) is $242.52 set in the first week of last month.

This represents a 20.6% drop in the Amazon stock price over the last 30 days :-(

Yet the S&P 500 has only had a 5% correction.

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10   komputodo   2025 Mar 7, 8:37pm  

AD says

Somebodies bought a shit load of Amazon stock in the last 5 minutes of trading today, about 14.6 million shares (and estimated value of $3.1 billion).

that was me
11   ElYorsh   2025 Mar 7, 8:43pm  

The stock market is choppy because some are panicking while others don't see any problems with fundamentals.
12   AD   2025 Mar 7, 8:55pm  

ElYorsh says

The stock market is choppy because some are panicking while others don't see any problems with fundamentals.


What do you see such as with Amazon and the S&P 500 ?

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13   ElYorsh   2025 Mar 7, 9:11pm  

I'm not into stock market analysis. It's just that the current drama is very obvious.
14   Misc   2025 Mar 7, 9:56pm  

AD says

What do you see such as with Amazon and the S&P 500 ?


Most of what Amazon sells is made in China. With a 20% tariff. that business model just don't make sense. Also, if the Chinese don't clean up that crap about shipping over Fentanyl, Trump will probably keep raising the tariff on Chinese made crap.
15   AD   2025 Mar 7, 10:04pm  

ElYorsh says

I'm not into stock market analysis. It's just that the current drama is very obvious.


AMZN and GOOGL have good fundamentals and the S&P 500 did have a run up for the last 2 years, so naturally there likely would be a pull back or retracement this year.

You mean drama of Trump's policies like tariffs as well as cutting government spending ?

The US Treasury Secretary has warned the federal government is not going to be spending like Biden admin. I suspect Trump is looking at least to keep the 2025 deficit at the 2024 level

Also I suspect this represents the maximum for at least the next 4 years: "The US government's Bureau of Economic Analysis as of Q3 2023 estimates $10,007.7 billion in annual total government expenditure (both state and federal) and $27,610.1 billion annual total GDP which is 36.2%. Conversely, the federal spending to GDP is 23%."

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16   HeadSet   2025 Mar 8, 10:30am  

Misc says

Most of what Amazon sells is made in China. With a 20% tariff. that business model just don't make sense.

Another issue is if China loses the cheap shipping rates.
17   AD   2025 Mar 8, 12:19pm  

HeadSet says

Misc says
Most of what Amazon sells is made in China. With a 20% tariff. that business model just don't make sense.

Another issue is if China loses the cheap shipping rates.


Amazon will be a lot less impacted by the tariffs than Temu.

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/09/nx-s1-5288931/how-your-shein-and-temu-orders-will-be-impacted-by-tariffs-on-china

and this



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18   AD   2025 Mar 8, 12:21pm  

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and TEMU (a competitor to Amazon) has seen its stock price drop since 2021

Pinduoduo is a Chinese online retailer with a focus on the traditional agriculture industry. The business is the largest product of PDD Holdings, which also owns the online marketplace Temu

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19   ElYorsh   2025 Mar 8, 12:48pm  

Even if the tariffs affect Amazon's retail business because of all the China manufactured products that they sell, they can replace Chinese products with anything. They already have the infrastructure with warehouse and distribution center locations. Besides that, AWS is where Amazon makes its money.
20   AD   2025 Mar 8, 1:56pm  

ElYorsh says

Even if the tariffs affect Amazon's retail business because of all the China manufactured products that they sell, they can replace Chinese products with anything. They already have the infrastructure with warehouse and distribution center locations. Besides that, AWS is where Amazon makes its money.


true, as Amazon can get products from Vietnam for laptops/electronics, etc.

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