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HeadSet says

Eric Holder says

"After we win this war... we will make sure that Ukraine wins.

And how will they do that? By using the US politicians they own through bribes and Epstein tapes to send in US troops?

Exactly.

The only way for Ukraine to win, again IF I can trust what I'm hearing, is to put NATO in, because there's something like 400,000 Ukrainians dead. Their military is destroyed. Russia hasn't been going after civilians, they - apparently - have very low "collateral damage" in comparison to the United States which is staggering. It's estimated the US killed 800,000 Iraqis, but how they were killed is not stated. Starvation? Disease? I don't know. I do know the US purposely attacks infrastructure like sewage and water lines.

Patrick says

It is weird how the IDF intercepted this particular discussion but somehow missed all the discussions that might’ve warned them of the original Hamas attack, but I digress.

Planning vs. Ops. Since no plan survives the battlefield, Ops comms are necessary, but planning can be kept secret.

There have been large scale offensives bigger than this where Sigint was successfully hidden (Battle of the Bulge for one, both Six Day and Yom Kippur Wars on opposite sides for examples).

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/intelligence-failures-monday-october

During the spring, Netanyahu led a conservative takeover of Israel’s government following a disastrous leftist cycle. One of the new conservative government’s first projects was to prune back a law allowing Israel’s Supreme Court to overturn any democratically-passed legislation that the Court felt was inconsistent with Israel’s values — a blank check. The reform — which was ultimately successful — was opposed by none less than the U.S. deep state and one Joseph Robinette Biden.

And, although officially denied, leaked documents showed the conservative reforms were also opposed by members of Israel’s own top security agency, Mossad:




To pull the threads together, what I think Patrick is suggesting (without explicitly saying so) is that the U.S. deep state, working with the Israeli deep state, engineered October 7th. They did it to punish Netanyahu for the Supreme Court reforms, and to purge Israel’s new conservative government. The deepstate termites may have accomplished it by sabotaging Israel’s security software, on which the country is almost completely dependent.

Admittedly, it’s a bold, 9/11-level conspiracy theory, but so far it’s the only fact-based theory going.

Ibid:

💣 Soon it will be politically too late for Israel to invade Gaza on the ground, and an invasion is looking less and less likely, for three reasons. First, the U.S. is stepping up pressure on Israel to postpone the Gazan ground invasion, for the obvious rationale that I predicted. The New York Times made the case this morning at the top of the fold:




It’s the hostages. On the Israeli side, the Times of Israel broke the bad news to the Israeli public:




The longer the delay, the less likely politically possible it will be for Israel to invade Gaza at all. And if, at the end of the day, Israel does not invade Gaza after the October 7th attacks, Israel’s conservative government will undoubtedly fall, delighting U.S. and Israeli deep state color revolutionaries who failed to abolish Netanyahu with nationwide protests in the summer.

Remember the Chuck Schumer rule: they have seven ways from Sunday to get back at you.

Second, Israel’s internal leftist forces are starting to stretch and get ready to take advantage of the situation in the domestic politics arena. In other words, the period of unity is coming to a close. Israel’s papers this weekend were packed with swelling criticism of Netanyahu, neatly summarized in this Haaretz example:




Prime Minister Netanyahu faces irresistible public pressure to start the invasion, but on the other hand, the United States — his most critical ally, needed to hold off opportunistic enemies while Israel fights with Hamas — is flat telling him not to do it. I would bet my next paycheck that when Biden flew around the globe for a one-hour face-to-face meeting last week it was to warn Bibi not to invade.

Third, Israel’s other enemies are lining up to invade Israel when Israel invades Gaza. All last week, pressure continued mounting along Israel’s northern border, as other regional enemies waited with barely-concealed glee for Israel to commit its forces to Gaza in the south. For example, Lebanon-based terrorist group Hezbollah spent last week steadily increasing rocket attacks from the north, while Iran and Israel traded threats. ..

Officially, Israel will not explain the delay, not even to its own officers. Four senior Israeli defense officials told the Times they did not even know the reason for the repeated postponements. My guess is that’s because the delay is due to politics and not military strategy.

OK, maybe it was Mossad that allowed or even orchestrated the massacre of 1400 Israelis just to get at Netanyahu.

Looks like one less Democrat in Maryland:
https://www.reddit.com/r/maryland/comments/17du91j/he_rushed_from_maryland_to_israel_to_fight_on/
He rushed from Maryland to Israel to fight. On Friday, he was killed.

https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/the-case-for-inside-job-picks-up

The Case For "Inside Job" Picks Up: Did Israel Confiscate Guns At The Border Sept 1?

A Former Soldier's Righteous Rage

Clip here:

https://twitter.com/VincentCrypt46/status/1716088629024461046

Maybe the Brit Royals, the Rothschild Messiahs and the KMaf Nazis just decided that an Israel that peacefully coexists as a technologic nation is useless as a pirate flag to plunder, rob and destroy the Middle East, so, time to rendition them as Moloch niblets and create as much carnage and dead burning flesh for the nostrils of their demons as they can on as many unisides as they can.

Harvest time again for the press ganged survivors?

Patrick says

The Case For "Inside Job" Picks Up: Did Israel Confiscate Guns At The Border Sept 1?

If they supposedly "confiscated weapons" how did that one kibbutz who had their act together and repealed the attack still had them? Fact is - most weapons there are not stored in homes, so there no need to confiscate anything: when terrorists are roaming outside your house it's too late to go pick it up from the offsite storage room. That one kibbutz got lucky the gal who had the key didn't get cut off from the rest and had time to open the storage and hand out weapons. The whole arrangement is highly idiotic, imo.

Besides, did they also confiscate weapons from the army? Because at least one base was overrun too.

https://t.me/drue86/47020

Patrick says

OK, maybe it was Mossad that allowed or even orchestrated the massacre of 1400 Israelis just to get at Netanyahu.

No, if this happened, Netanyahu would call them out on it and have some high profile firings. It's simple to end this for Netanyahu, blame Mossad for the failure, or the IDF, or something. Netanyahu was part of this.

When something really bad happens, and NOBODY is fired, it's red flag for a false flag.

Patrick says

OK, maybe it was Mossad that allowed or even orchestrated the massacre of 1400 Israelis just to get at Netanyahu.

But who do they want to replace Netanyahu ? Naftali Bennett ?

They better be careful what they are wishing for because they can't use the same dirty tricks playbook all the time.

https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/understanding-false-flags

1. Reichstag Fire (1933)
Country Involved: Germany

Description: The Reichstag building in Berlin, which housed the German Parliament, was set on fire. The Nazis blamed the Communists for the act, which led to the suspension of civil liberties and the arrest of Communist Party members.

Outcome: The event facilitated Adolf Hitler's rise to power and the consolidation of Nazi rule.

Source: "The Reichstag Fire," History.com

2. Operation Northwoods (1962) - Not Executed
Country Involved: United States

Description: A proposed plan by the U.S. Department of Defense to stage acts of terrorism on U.S. soil and blame it on Cuba to justify military intervention.

Outcome: The plan was never approved or carried out.

Source: "Operation Northwoods," National Security Archive

3. Gulf of Tonkin Incident (1964)
Country Involved: United States

Description: The U.S. claimed that its naval vessels were attacked by North Vietnamese forces in the Gulf of Tonkin.

Outcome: The incident led to the escalation of American involvement in the Vietnam War, although later evidence suggested that the "attack" was either exaggerated or fabricated.

Source: "Gulf of Tonkin Incident," History.com

4. Operation Gladio (Cold War Era)
Countries Involved: NATO countries, primarily Italy

Description: A covert NATO project where secret "stay-behind" armies were involved in political subversion and false flag terrorism in Europe.

Outcome: Exposed in the 1990s, leading to investigations and public outcry.

Source: "Operation Gladio," BBC Documentary

5. Mukden Incident (1931)
Country Involved: Japan

Description: Japanese soldiers detonated a small amount of dynamite near a railway line owned by Japan's South Manchuria Railway near Mukden (now Shenyang).

Outcome: The incident was used as a pretext for the Japanese invasion of Manchuria.

Source: "Mukden Incident," Britannica

6. Operation Ajax (1953)
Countries Involved: United States, United Kingdom

Description: Orchestrated protests and acts of sabotage to overthrow Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh, falsely attributing these acts to Communists.

Outcome: Led to the overthrow of Mossadegh and the reinstatement of the Shah.

Source: "Operation Ajax," CIA Archives

7. Operation Susannah (1954)
Country Involved: Israel

Description: Also known as the Lavon Affair, Israeli agents planted bombs in Egyptian, American, and British-owned targets in Egypt, intending to have them blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood or local nationalists.

Outcome: The operation was exposed, leading to a political scandal in Israel.

Source: "Operation Susannah," Jewish Virtual Library

8. Operation Himmler (1939)
Country Involved: Nazi Germany

Description: Also known as The Gleiwitz Incident, is when German operatives, dressed as Polish soldiers, attacked a German radio station near the border with Poland, and falsely blamed on Polish forces.

Outcome: Used as justification for the invasion of Poland.

Source: "Operation Himmler," WW2 Database

9. The Manchurian Incident (1931)
Country Involved: Japan

Description: Japanese soldiers staged an explosion on a railway in Manchuria and blamed it on Chinese dissidents.

Outcome: Used as a pretext for the Japanese invasion of Manchuria.

Source: "The Manchurian Incident," Britannica

10. Operation CHAOS (1967-1974)
Country Involved: United States

Description: CIA program aimed at monitoring, infiltrating, and discrediting U.S. organizations considered "subversive," including civil rights groups.

Outcome: Led to illegal surveillance and violation of civil liberties.

Source: "Operation CHAOS," CIA Archives

11. Operation Bumblebee (1950s)
Country Involved: United States

Description: U.S. Navy project that involved faking UFO sightings to cover up missile tests.

Outcome: Created public hysteria over UFOs, diverting attention from military activities.

Source: "Operation Bumblebee," Military Archives

12. Operation Valuable Fiend (1949-1950)
Countries Involved: United States, United Kingdom

Description: CIA and MI6 orchestrated a plan to infiltrate Albania and overthrow its Communist regime, using agents posing as anti-Communist Albanians.

Outcome: The operation failed but was used to justify anti-Communist activities in the region.

Source: "Operation Valuable Fiend," CIA Archives

13. The Bay of Pigs Invasion (1961)
Country Involved: United States

Description: CIA-trained Cuban exiles invaded Cuba, aiming to overthrow Fidel Castro. The U.S. initially denied involvement.

Outcome: The invasion failed, leading to a diplomatic crisis.

Source: "Bay of Pigs Invasion," History.com

14. The Mainila Incident (1939)
Country Involved: Soviet Union

Description: The Soviet Union shelled the Russian village of Mainila and blamed it on Finland.

Outcome: Used as a pretext for the Winter War against Finland.

Source: "The Mainila Incident," Winter War Archives

15. Operation Condor (1970s-1980s)
Countries Involved: Several South American countries with U.S. support

Description: A campaign of political repression involving assassinations and intelligence operations, often falsely attributed to leftist groups.

Outcome: Led to the deaths and disappearances of thousands of people.

Source: "Operation Condor," National Security Archive

16. The Nero Decree (1945)
Country Involved: Nazi Germany

Description: A plan to destroy German infrastructure to blame the Allies and demoralize the German population.

Outcome: The plan was never fully executed due to internal opposition.

Source: "The Nero Decree," WW2 Facts

17. Operation Gladio B (1990s-Present)
Countries Involved: United States, NATO countries

Description: An extension of Operation Gladio involving the infiltration and instigation of terrorist activities in Asia, falsely attributed to Islamist groups.

Outcome: Ongoing; details are largely classified.

Source: "Operation Gladio B," The Corbett Report

18. The USS Liberty Incident (1967)
Countries Involved: Israel, United States

Description: Israeli forces attacked the USS Liberty, a U.S. Navy ship, during the Six-Day War. Israel claimed it was a case of mistaken identity.

Outcome: Strained U.S.-Israel relations; Israel paid reparations but many questions remain.

Source: "The USS Liberty Incident," Naval History and Heritage Command

19. The Informbiro Period (1948–1955)
Country Involved: Yugoslavia

Description: Yugoslav authorities orchestrated purges and show trials, blaming them on Soviet influence to consolidate power.

Outcome: Strengthened Tito's rule and distanced Yugoslavia from the Soviet Union.

Source: "The Informbiro Period," Encyclopaedia Britannica

20. Operation Washtub (1950s)
Country Involved: United States

Description: A covert CIA operation to plant Soviet arms in Nicaragua to suggest a communist invasion.

Outcome: Unclear, as details remain classified.

Source: "Operation Washtub," CIA Archives

21. The Trust Operation (1921–1927)
Country Involved: Soviet Union

Description: Soviet secret police created a fake anti-Bolshevik organization to identify and arrest opposition members.

Outcome: Successful in arresting and executing many anti-Bolshevik figures.

Source: "The Trust Operation," Soviet Archives

22. Operation Anthropoid (1942)
Countries Involved: Czechoslovakia, United Kingdom

Description: Czech and Slovak soldiers, trained by the British, assassinated SS-Obergruppenführer Reinhard Heydrich. The operation was falsely attributed to local resistance.

Outcome: Led to severe reprisals but boosted Czech morale.

Source: "Operation Anthropoid," BBC History

I think this one is not exactly a false flag, in that Hamas really slaughtered 1400 Israelis. But it was allowed to happen, as I suspect 9/11 was.

The author of that article would call it "Passive Facilitation".

Just because you cite 22 examples does not mean you have real proof.

Patrick says

I think this one is not exactly a false flag, in that Hamas really slaughtered 1400 Israelis. But it was allowed to happen

You really think they "allowed" the kidnapping of 200 Israelis to happen so the IDF's hands are tied while Biden, UN and the Red Cross demand a ceasefire to negotiate hostage releases?

Netanyahu will likely be ousted from power when this is all over.

Dumb conspiracy is dumb IMO.

https://newsparadigm.substack.com/p/gaza-is-a-huge-distraction-from-the

So Netanyahu had good reason to allow that hideous attack—to get Israelis to forget about the toll of “vaccination” and their anger over his attempt to seize control of Israel’s courts. Of course, such “wag the dog” manipulation has been used forever to get people to forget news inconvenient to the government—as (say) Ronald Reagan scored his smashing military triumph in Grenada, to “save the medical students” there (though they were in no danger), and thereby change the subject from the 241 Marines killed in Lebanon (where they’d been sent for no good reason); and as Bill Clinton bombed civilian neighborhoods in Belgrade, to halt what “our free press” portrayed as Serbian “genocide,” and thereby change the subject from the scandal over his dalliance with Monica Lewinsky.

If this is the "distraction" it's way worse than the thing it was supposed to distract from. Nobody really cares about "failed vaccine" all that much anyway, because people who took it are extremely invested in their "right" decision and woukd rather kill the messenger than admit they were taken for a ride. Thus I find the whole "distraction" theory extremely silly. Netanyahu is political dead man walking because of what happened on Oct 7.

RWSGFY says

Nobody really cares about "failed vaccine" all that much anyway

Really?

Nobody cares about the sudden death of so many young and healthy people?

Maybe it's just you that doesn't care.

Patrick says

Admittedly, it’s a bold, 9/11-level conspiracy theory, but so far it’s the only fact-based theory going.

Again the problem here is your source article list zero citations. That plus the fact that Netanyahu is former Mossad makes this incredibly unlikely.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/why-isnt-israel-more-focused-on-the

Why isn't Israel more focused on the Hamas leaders in Qatar?

Hamas committed crimes against humanity - not Jews, humanity - on Oct. 7. Why are its top officials living in luxury in Qatar's skyscrapers and villas?

Osama bin Laden was Saudi. Not Afghan.

But after bin Laden planned the Sept. 11 attacks from camps in Afghanistan, no one doubted the United States could demand Afghanistan’s Taliban government evict him - and attack Afghanistan if the Talibs refused.

The leaders of Hamas are Palestinian. Not Qatari.

Yet two weeks after a Hamas attack on Israel that in its barbarity dwarfed Sept. 11, they continue to live in luxury in Qatar, a tiny Persian Gulf city-state.

As it prepares to invade the Gaza Strip, home to the Hamas fighters who slaughtered over 1,400 Israeli civilians, Israel seems to have forgotten its claim on Qatar, home to the men behind that slaughter.

In a conflict that is both necessary and has no good answers, focusing pressure on Qatar and attacking Hamas’s leaders there directly may be Israel’s cleanest short-term play, giving it the best hope of holding the moral high ground.

(Why? And how might Israel handle Qatar? Answers below the paywall.)

(Welcome to Qatar, American servicemen and -ladies. You’ll enjoy the pleasant 130-degree desert heat, the camels, and the proximity to one of the world’s most vicious terrorist groups!)

Until now, Qatar was probably best known for hosting the 2022 World Cup and for being less cool than Dubai, its high-flying, model-hosting neighbor to the east.

A thumb-shaped peninsula 40 miles wide and 100 miles long, Qatar has 2.7 million residents, but only 315,000 citizens, about 1/25000th of the world’s population. It also has 11 percent of the world’s proven natural gas reserves, giving it hydrocarbons - and money - to burn.

Like Kuwait and other super-rich ministates of the Gulf, Qatar’s main preoccupation is its continued existence. For a generation, its leaders have walked a fine line, trying to convince its neighbors that it can play the role of a semi-honest broker in the Muslim world. Qatar is Sunni Muslim, but it works with Iran, which is Shia, as well as the Taliban in Afghanistan, who are hardline Sunni.

Qatar has also made itself a crucial ally to the American military by hosting a huge American air field, the Al Udeid Air Base. With over 11,000 airmen and soldiers, Al Udeid has become the largest United States military installation in the Middle East.

Amazingly, Qatar built its relationship with the United States even as it actively supported Hamas and other Islamist terror groups.

To some extent, Qatar has spent the last 20 years playing the same game Saudi Arabia once did. It funds terror groups (always outside its borders, of course) to keep its Muslim bonafides, while at the same time helping the United States knock them down.

The Saudis realized the limits of these schemes after Sept. 11, and Qatar’s support for radical Islam and its relationship with Iran grew to frustrate Saudi Arabia so deeply that in 2017 it blockaded Qatar. But the Saudis never invaded - how could they, given the huge American base 20 miles from central Doha? - and in 2021 they dropped the blockade.

But of all the games Qatar played, helping Hamas was in some ways the lowest risk.

Arab and Muslim countries have little choice but to support Palestinians against Israel. And under Benjamin “Bibi” Netanyahu, Israel itself allowed Qatar to funnel money to Hamas for most of the last decade.

Netanyahu knew that as long as Hamas - whose charter demands the destruction of Israel - controlled Gaza, Israel would not face serious pressure to make peace with Palestinians. His plan was to keep life in Gaza barely tolerable as Israel continued to prosper and moved settlers into the other Palestinian territories West Bank (and negotiate a broader peace with other Arab countries).

The slaughter of Oct. 7 - in which Hamas terrorists killed the equivalent of 50,000 Americans - has blown up Netanyahu’s cynical scheme. (I know some conservative and Israeli readers complain about this framing of the situation, but the truth is what it is.)

So, no, Israel can no longer live with Hamas. It must destroy the group, or die trying.

But as Israel tries, it must ensure that the world doesn’t entirely turn against it.

And it must at least give the civilians of Gaza a chance to leave Hamas behind. Not that they will, necessarily. They may hate Jews more than they love life. Then again, they may not.

Part of the answer to those puzzles lies in Qatar. Israel must keep the focus on the atrocities of Oct. 7, the atrocities that started this war, and on the men behind them.

It must demand that Qatar no longer harbor the leadership of Hamas - Ismail Haniyeh, the Hamas political chief, and the rest of the officials who, directly or indirectly, ordered the beheadings and ritual executions and slaughter of more than 1,000 people.

Haniyeh and the rest can take their chances in Gaza with the people they claim to represent. (Israel should even guarantee their safe passage.) They can turn themselves in and try the International Civilian Court. Or they can submit directly to Israeli justice, the way that Adolf Eichmann and other Nazis did in the decades after the Nuremberg courts closed.

Whatever choice they make, they’ll have more of a chance than the Jews their men slaughtered two weeks ago.

Bibi Netanyahu is in a bad position to make this demand. Doing so will throw the spotlight on the way he worked with Qatar to help Hamas. But he must, and if he will not, the Israeli government must find a leader who can.

Of course, Qatar will not agree to those conditions (though if the United States puts enough pressure on it, it might tell the Hamas leadership to head across the Gulf to Iran - a step that Haniyeh would surely prefer not to take as it would make Hamas even more dependent on Iran).

But simply by asking, Israel will put the spotlight on the atrocities, the men who ordered them, and the regimes that support those men. And it will also put Qatar on public notice that it intends to assassinate every leader of Hamas it can find, and that if Qatar will not evict them Qatar’s own civilians will be at risk.

Those actions wouldn’t be unethical, much less illegal. They are exactly the tack the United States took in Afghanistan 22 years ago.

Lie down with terrorists, wake up dead.

What the world needs is not more war, but attacks on the people at the very top who are arranging wars and terrorist attacks and mass injection campaigns.

I suspect they all have "gentelmen's agreements" to not whack each other.

A flashing red light that MI6/Tavistock/RIIA Brits are purposely stoking the Uniside conflict. Is their spearhead servant state ripe for harvest?

https://t.me/BenjaminFulfordWDSGroup/120941

Yeah, they are going to cave just because of that.

https://t.me/BenjaminFulfordWDSGroup/120943

Really, how many different ways can Bibi fuck the pooch? He refers to two other false flags? Is he broadcasting his own purposeful false flag as if everybody is completely gobsmacked idiot that previous notorious false flags were somehow real history?

https://t.me/davidavocadowolfe/111075

This is something I've worried about and seen getting progressively worse since the Scamdemic. People have invested so much of their personal worth in lies, that they are now progressively committing more and more to fictional realities, fragmenting the truth in such a way that they may struggle for years to come back from, if they ever do.

Literally creating their own Matrix/prison for their mind.

As I suspected the Israel establishment which has been conspiring and stablng Bibi in the back at every turn. Was behind the intelligence lapse that allowed the attack, and why the security forces stood down, to allow Hamas to butcher the innocent civilians.
Bibi's response to Hamas must also equally address the rogue bad actors in his deep state, that is in lockstep with the NWO to thwart populist leaders, trying to end the Global cabal. If he does not then he is equally at fault and part of the problem. I think this was done so he would take the fall for it, and finally be expelled from power. If you remember he was persecuted and robbed of a previous election, and almost thrown in jail. The same playbook that persecuted Balsinario, Trump and several other populist leaders.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/netanyahu-sets-record-straight-accuses-top-generals-not/

If I were Bibi, I would capture the Hamas leadership alive, and turn the screws on them to name some names.

He's former Mossad, very unlikely conspiracy theory. Much more likely he's taking way more shit than he anticipated from this, and is attempting to spread the shit around.

And just so I understand you consider people who enforce Scamdemic's to be populists? See especially Israel where restrictions where way beyond most countries.

Most plausible reason I've heard thus for for the 10/7 false flag, dumping more refugees on Western countries:

https://youtu.be/Ciqq-FTY_qU

NuttBoxer says

He's former Mossad, very unlikely conspiracy theory

Like we're finally seeing with Democrats. Ugly factions always rear their heads, and will do what ever it takes to get in power, and to get rid of those that threaten that. He's old guard, the new guard stands with the Pink Haired Woke Lilly Boy's nonsense. A little to squishy in the pants, I don't think Bibi had anything to do with the planning. But he like Trump are responsible for not weeding out their backstabbers.
Just look how immediately after the attack, there was talk of some Committee government that was going to take over the response. They were going to cover up their involvement. He must have put that to rest, you don't hear about it anymore.

Yada, yada. They are all preaching the extermination of each other. Old Testament blather for the Uniside harvests.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6dSiI63O70

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=231701

https://t.me/WW3INFO/27088

America's 'closest ally' ...

Israel Told US ‘Mass Civilian Casualties’ Were Acceptable Price of Gaza Campaign

The Pentagon has said there are 'no limits' on how Israel uses its US-provided weapons despite the massive child death toll

Israel’s plans for mass slaughter in Gaza and the growing child death toll have not impacted US support. The Times report focused on how the Biden administration is paying lip service to the idea of limiting civilian casualties, but it acknowledged they’re not telling Israel what to do, only asking questions.

According to Gaza’s Health Ministry, at least 8,500 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza since Israel unleashed its bombing campaign after the October 7 Hamas attack. The total includes over 3,500 children.

More here: https://news.antiwar.com/2023/10/31/israel-told-us-mass-civilian-casualties-were-acceptable-price-of-gaza-campaign/

RayAmerica says

The Pentagon has said there are 'no limits' on how Israel uses its US-provided weapons despite the massive child death toll

Don't vote for Islamists to run your country that you refuse to make a country, because then the billions in "Refugee" money turns off, even though you live in a CBS 8-story high rise one block from a multistory mall.

Losing wars of aggression has consequences.

AmericanKulak says

Losing wars of aggression has consequences.

Yeah - that's the rule for everyone else.

But the Jew haters have special rules for Israel.

Whatever side you think is right, this is an accurate depiction:

socal2 says

Losing wars of aggression has consequences.

Yeah - that's the rule for everyone else.

But the Jew haters have special rules for Israel.

I'm pretty sure the Nazi German officers were hanged later for war crimes despite them hiring thugs pretending to be Poles invading Germany and destroying a radio station (i.e. false flag operation as Causus Belli, and it doesn't exculpate war crimes). They didn't even go so far as to killing Polish children en masse during the Polish campaign of 1939. More Nazi officers were hanged later for emptying the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943. For quite some time, the Nazis were very victorious; then it was their turn to be harvested.

Tenpoundbass says

Like we're finally seeing with Democrats. Ugly factions always rear their heads, and will do what ever it takes to get in power, and to get rid of those that threaten that. He's old guard, the new guard stands with the Pink Haired Woke Lilly Boy's nonsense.

You're projecting an American mentality on people who have never, and will never be that way. As many people as they've fucked with in their region, they can't afford to. I'm really at a loss how you can be so far off base here.