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I don't tip indifferent, inattentive, aloof, entitled service.

I wish good eateries would go back to way they used to create institution.

Either paid them very well or gave them a small stake in the business.

I would rather go to a place that charges $20 to $25 for a Lunch sandwich and fries. Knowing the staff there take care over the fare, service and customer's take away of the operation. Places that even if the cook slipped up and sent out inferior fare, would reject at the window and tell them to make again. Each of them could manage the place alone. They have just enough staff to do the tasks at hand. Not too many and not short of help. Too much help in the back makes for a bad place. Because they end up assuming someone else is doing something, and it never gets done. Or they impede the flow of the speed to get food out cooked right and at optimal temps, by talking, flexing they Boss skills on the lowly help. Places that don't have a bunch of bosses, bossing around useless help that shouldn't be in food industry anyway. And those Boss' are the ones that trying to make a career in the food industry. Yet they refuse to roll up their sleeves and kneed the damn dough. But everyone wants to be a boss.

Nothing worse than paying premium price for crap service and mediocre food service grade food, that still fucked up by uncaring low wage tax refund recipients, and they still demand a tip.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tipping/comments/1lqyuzt/big_beautiful_bill_has_passed_im_going_to_tip_10/

Big Beautiful Bill has passed! I’m going to tip 10% now and only for good service.

10% used to be normal.

Patrick says

10% used to be normal.

And even then, only for good service.

HeadSet says

Patrick says

10% used to be normal.

And even then, only for good service.

not for barista with 10 nose rings who handed you a cup of coffee, flipped ipad around and stares you down as you choose an option?

Fortwaye says

not for barista with 10 nose rings who handed you a cup of coffee, flipped ipad around and stares you down as you choose an option?

She can stare all she wants. I will hit "no tip" unless it was delivered to my table.

Same as Wookie,

I tip at restaurants, barber, taxi, luggage guy at hotels….rarely I’ll tip at a sandwich place if they go above and beyond or otherwise make a fantastic sandwich. Never tip at coffee places, ice cream, takeout, etc.

Fortwaye says

HeadSet says

Patrick says

10% used to be normal.

And even then, only for good service.

not for barista with 10 nose rings who handed you a cup of coffee, flipped ipad around and stares you down as you choose an option?

Does she have a chance to spit in your coffee then? If not - no tip.

Pictures That Reveal Just How Out of Hand Tipping Culture Has Become
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC9VutYt-6Y

HeadSet says

Fortwaye says
not for barista with 10 nose rings who handed you a cup of coffee, flipped ipad around and stares you down as you choose an option?

She can stare all she wants. I will hit "no tip" unless it was delivered to my table.

Service matters. I take my son to pole vault every Sunday. Eat breakfast when he's doing boring drills not worth watching. I do watch at the end when he's jumping. Get the same waitress she's learned my name and mine hers and brings what I want before I ask.

I'm in an out in 30 min. Frees a table up for her for more customers and I get to watch the kid jump and then criticize him...lol. Pound 2 mimosas with an hour to chill out and be safe driving.

I'll never tip a coffee person, although I don't drink regular coffee. Been doing the mushroom coffee with minimal caffeine at home. I turn into a full Parkinson's patient if I go full caffeine. A coke is about the max I'll go and that's once a month best case.

Either way I'd never pay someone extra to pour something already made with no effort involved. You can give out 50 cups of coffee in 2-3 min. My god that challenge is so difficult. They'll get a dime if lucky.

Fortwaye says

not for barista with 10 nose rings who handed you a cup of coffee, flipped ipad around and stares you down as you choose an option?

Another good reason to pay cash.

Much easier to simply not tip. And no one should ever be tipping for anything ordered while standing at a cash register.

Patrick says

Much easier to simply not tip. And no one should ever be tipping for anything ordered while standing at a cash register.

When I was in Italy back in the day (Europe - no tips), counter service was 1/2 to 1/3 the price of sit-down service. Every bar (liquor + coffee) I was about to enter had a waiter try to get me to sit down before I reached the bar counter.

Restaurant automatic tip at drive thru:

https://youtube.com/shorts/mPnbMSKOKxY?si=7JdRlsbi43b2ZCNH

Holy shit. I just came out of the Computer Cave. Located in the Richmond Virginia area.

I bought a new charger and the credit card point of sale put 3 different tip amounts on the screen.

I will never go back.

Glock-n-Load says

I bought a new charger and the credit card point of sale put 3 different tip amounts on the screen.

I see that everywhere from Subway sandwich shops to bowling alleys. I wonder if the POS software is somewhat generic and uses that tip display on all devices.

HeadSet says

Glock-n-Load says

I bought a new charger and the credit card point of sale put 3 different tip amounts on the screen.

I see that everywhere from Subway sandwich shops to bowling alleys. I wonder if the POS software is somewhat generic and uses that tip display on all devices.

So tipping is now customary anywhere you swipe your card, it seems. Grocery store, gas station etc. I wonder when we'll start seeing it on Amazon.

GNL says

So tipping is now customary anywhere you swipe your card, it seems. Grocery store, gas station etc. I wonder when we'll start seeing it on Amazon.

We even had it on Patnet once!

HeadSet says

GNL says

So tipping is now customary anywhere you swipe your card, it seems. Grocery store, gas station etc. I wonder when we'll start seeing it on Amazon.

We even had it on Patnet once!

What?

HeadSet says

Glock-n-Load says

I bought a new charger and the credit card point of sale put 3 different tip amounts on the screen.

I see that everywhere from Subway sandwich shops to bowling alleys. I wonder if the POS software is somewhat generic and uses that tip display on all devices.

It is, and there should be no doubt in your mind

Booger says

HeadSet says

Glock-n-Load says

I bought a new charger and the credit card point of sale put 3 different tip amounts on the screen.

I see that everywhere from Subway sandwich shops to bowling alleys. I wonder if the POS software is somewhat generic and uses that tip display on all devices.

It is, and there should be no doubt in your mind

Somewhere in the future everyone will walk around with barcode on their outer piece of closing for easy tipping.

I already saw this abomination on a car, had some kind of QR code for donations. Some people feel absolutely no shame begging.

FortWayneHatesRealtors says

Some people feel absolutely no shame in begging.

I wonder if beggars will put a tip jar next to their begging cup.

Note how they calculate the tip on the tax as well.

GNL says

HeadSet says

GNL says

So tipping is now customary anywhere you swipe your card, it seems. Grocery store, gas station etc. I wonder when we'll start seeing it on Amazon.

We even had it on Patnet once!

What?

You must be new here.

RWSGFY says

Fortwaye says

HeadSet says

Patrick says

10% used to be normal.

And even then, only for good service.

not for barista with 10 nose rings who handed you a cup of coffee, flipped ipad around and stares you down as you choose an option?

Does she have a chance to spit in your coffee then? If not - no tip.

This sounds like a hostage situation where you are trying to negotiate a release.

Tip option at a used bookstore that is fully self check out:

Automatic 30% tip added:

Glock-n-Load says

Holy shit. I just came out of the Computer Cave. Located in the Richmond Virginia area.

I bought a new charger and the credit card point of sale put 3 different tip amounts on the screen.

I will never go back.

Please also let them know why.

GNL says

So tipping is now customary anywhere you swipe your card

Another excellent reason to pay with cash!

Patrick says

Glock-n-Load says

Holy shit. I just came out of the Computer Cave. Located in the Richmond Virginia area.

I bought a new charger and the credit card point of sale put 3 different tip amounts on the screen.

I will never go back.

Please also let them know why.

I did. They're a new company. I decided to contact them through their website. I was contacted within 30 minutes via email. I can't remember what they offered me and asked me for feedback.

I thanked them for their offer (I think some kind of discount on something) but told them they already lost me as a customer. The feedback I gave them was to get that tip suggestion off of their point of sale as fast as possible.

zzyzzx says

Automatic 30% tip added:

And then they want a tip on that new total! Holy shit.

NEVER go to Las Vegas.

zzyzzx says

Tipping the doorman and maybe the porter is normal in NYC, has been for many decades, but the Resident Manager?

The Resident Manager/Supers "tip" comes from a bonus given by the Owners or Management, and those cheap fucks trying to slide it on the residents.

TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter says

Tipping the doorman and maybe the porter is normal in NYC, has been for many decades, but the Resident Manager?

The Resident Manager/Supers "tip" comes from a bonus given by the Owners or Management, and those cheap fucks trying to slide it on the residents.

Yep, and even the doorman/porter tipping is a discretionary action, so people used to and should pay them in cash if they appreciate them, it's nobody's fucking business to keep a tally.