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2   stereotomy   2024 Jul 19, 9:47am  

"And the Cloud will be the savior of human civilization"

NOT!

Fuck the cloud.
3   Ingrid   2024 Jul 19, 9:48am  

how do voting machines work? do they use Microsoft? I just read an article (with clips I did not watch) about people here in GA who ran voting forms 2 and 3 times through the machine. I remember last time I had to wait quite some time even though there was barely anyone, because the machine refused to load a voting card. Twice. So I wonder if it makes sense to go and vote. Specially with 2 old, stubborn, dementing men as the main parties, and a Zionist as runner up. The other 3 are so unknown, I think hardly anyone knows there are other candidates.
6   Patrick   2024 Jul 19, 10:14am  

stereotomy says


"And the Cloud will be the savior of human civilization"

NOT!

Fuck the cloud.


Yes, from the moment I had to start using cloud shit at work in2013 or so, I thought "Wow, this is the most stupid technical choice ever."

First of all, every "cloud" server gives AWS or MS or the Goog complete access to all your business data.

Second, a major cloud outage is devastating to every business that builds in that dependency, while owning your own servers is free from that problem.


9   Patrick   2024 Jul 19, 1:57pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/united-friday-july-19-2024-c-and


Social media filled with astonishing video clips showing things like airport flight boards stuck on the blue screen of death, making the airlines’ perennial game of ‘find your current gate’ even more challenging.

Seemingly within minutes, a Microsoft subcontractor called “CrowdStrike,” whose largest investor is Blackrock, and which was the primary technical resource supporting the Russia Collusion Hoax, claimed responsibility. It called the widespread failures an “error” in a security update. ...

Who knows. But —if it was a failed security update— here are three early observations:

CrowdStrike is now vulnerable to an incomprehensible number of potential lawsuits.

The world is manifestly over-reliant on a single computer platform (Windows).

The argument for replacing cash with digital currencies is over.
10   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Jul 19, 2:02pm  

Lina Khan wrote an extensive tweet about this.

I didn't start out as a fan of her's. But she has gradually won me over for her monopoly busting enforcement. Dem donors have gone public about how they want Biden to fire her.

Also recommend this book:


11   clambo   2024 Jul 19, 2:35pm  

My, my, my, another "Windows problem" is fucking up people in various ways.
Those poor dears.
Absolutely everything Microsoft sucks.
12   stereotomy   2024 Jul 19, 3:50pm  

Patrick says

The argument for replacing cash with digital currencies is over.

^^^^^^
THIS

With digital currency, the cloud giveth, and the cloud taketh away. With cold hard cash, you'll first have to get past my guns and pry it from my dead hands if you manage to get that far.
13   WookieMan   2024 Jul 19, 4:05pm  

stereotomy says

Patrick says


The argument for replacing cash with digital currencies is over.

^^^^^^
THIS

With digital currency, the cloud giveth, and the cloud taketh away. With cold hard cash, you'll first have to get past my guns and pry it from my dead hands if you manage to get that far.

Digital currency was dead from the word go. Hard enough to trust banks. There have been multiple exchanges that lost millions if not billions with crypto. A push of a button and poof, it's gone. It's not insured. And it's backed by fiat. What's the point?
14   Blue   2024 Jul 19, 5:00pm  

How did they push such a patch to millions of PCs without the basic testing. It’s a big mess to deal with! It needs manual intervention on every affected device to fix it. Hope Microsoft takes responsibility and pay losses for all its victims.
15   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 Jul 19, 11:19pm  

Obviously you aren't very familiar with Microsoft...
16   WookieMan   2024 Jul 19, 11:38pm  

NuttBoxer says

Obviously you aren't very familiar with Microsoft...

Why would anyone be. It's a shit show of fuck. I'd rather get AIDS than have a Windows machine.
17   AmericanKulak   2024 Jul 20, 12:34am  

Shawn Henry, Chief Security Officer of Crowdstrike, Retired from the FBI as Chief of Cybersecurity in 2012 under Obummer.

He claimed as a contractor that despite not being allowed access to any data by the DNC, that he and the rest of his Crowdstrike Team had reasons to believe the Russians "exfiltrated" data.

He also was brought in as an 'expert' on pMSNBC during Kavanaugh and said that Blasey Ford's claims were credible and Kavanaugh's confirmation should be delayed until a further investigation was done.
18   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2024 Jul 20, 5:24am  

Any tie-in to the assassination investigation? Is it necessary to toally crash things to remove evidence and the evidence trail? Where’s Ceffer?
20   porkchopXpress   2024 Jul 20, 8:45am  

I'm living this debacle now in the trenches at my two companies. Both have Crowdstrike.

The only reason Linux and Mac weren't affected is because Crowdstrike hadn't deployed the shitty update to them yet. This didn't have anything to do with Windows being a vulnerable OS, it was purely on Crowdstrike's colossal failure to QA the sensor update. If the update were deployed to Mac and Linux first, this would be a totally different story.
21   porkchopXpress   2024 Jul 20, 11:03am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Any tie-in to the assassination investigation? Is it necessary to toally crash things to remove evidence and the evidence trail? Where’s Ceffer?
I highly doubt there's any connection. This outage didn't cause any data to be lost.
22   SoTex   2024 Jul 20, 12:14pm  

WookieMan says

Why would anyone be. It's a shit show of fuck. I'd rather get AIDS than have a Windows machine.


And yet it's my macbook pro that I have to use at work that crashes with a black screen of death among several other problems these days. No problems with my linux machines at home. I do have a windows machine and the only problem with that is that every once in a while in the morning I open it to see a, "Lets finish setting up your computer" message I quit out of when they replace my OS overnight (probably with better spyware) without my permission.

Apple are integrating all of their machines (phones, laptops etc) with AI now so YOU are the training data.

If you can get an old board and put linux on it that's your best bet. The new boards have a low level hypervisor layer that you can get spied on with even if you're running linux.
28   Patrick   2024 Jul 20, 3:19pm  

https://www.malone.news/p/the-great-enshittening


What is known about CrowdStrike involvement in politics and elections?
Trump Conspiracy Theory: During the 2020 US presidential election, conspiracy theories emerged claiming that CrowdStrike, a cybersecurity firm, had fabricated evidence of Russian interference in the election. The company was accused of being biased against Donald Trump and his campaign. This controversy resurfaced in July 2024, with social media platforms like Facebook and X seeing renewed criticism about CrowdStrike’s role in the 2016 election.

Partisan Allegations: Some critics have accused CrowdStrike of having political leanings, particularly during the 2016 US presidential election, when the company attributed the DNC hack to Russian intelligence services. This attribution was disputed by then-President Donald Trump and his supporters, who claimed that CrowdStrike was biased against Trump and his campaign. CrowdStrike’s CEO testified that the firm had no specific evidence to support the claim of a Russian intelligence service hack, which testimony was classified by Congressman Adam Schiff and then declassified when Republicans gained control of the House of Representatives.
29   RWSGFY   2024 Jul 20, 3:22pm  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says






What kind of idiot buys a ticket with layover in the USSR when Pukin is actively taking hostages to exchange for that FSB assasin captured in Germany? 🤡
30   Patrick   2024 Jul 20, 3:27pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/but-wait-theres-more-saturday-july


On July 25th, 2019 —two years into Trump’s presidency and almost five years ago to the day— President Trump held his fateful call with Ukraine’s not-so-funny President Zelensky. The call is best known for Trump’s request for Zelensky to investigate the Biden crime family’s crooked business in that corrupt country, which caused the deep state to freak out and kick off the historic impeachment lawfare.

But that wasn’t all. Behold, yesterday’s Economic Times’ headline, already connecting the dots:

Why did Trump bring up CrowdStrike in his 2019 call with Ukraine's Zelenskyy?

That’s right. Trump not only asked Zelensky about Biden’s business in Ukraine, but he also asked about CrowdStrike’s secret file servers which were located there, secured from meddling US law enforcement. ...

And so, it begins. Yesterday, as if on cue, Elon Musk announced his companies were ditching the “global security” service, widely reported in media like Bloomberg.

CrowdStrike’s software is everywhere. Including embedded in many U.S. voting systems. Arizona’s Maricopa County, which is amidst early voting, reported polling place outages related to the CrowdStrike bungle, raising metric tons of questions about election security, internet connectedness, and so forth:




... Let’s recap the timeline:

— July 25th, 2019: Trump calls Zelensky to ask about CrowdStrike.

— December 18th, 2019: first articles of impeachment filed.

— (2020-2024: The Wilderness Years.)

— July 18th, 2024: Trump accepts the Republican nomination (which means he can now legally talk to foreign leaders).

— July 19th, 2024: CrowdStrike makes a mistake that could end the company.

— July 19th, 2024: Trump calls Zelensky again. Kyiv boosts Trump.

Those are all established facts. Zelensky, Ukraine, and CrowdStrike bookend the timeline. It seems like Trump is picking up right where he left off, with a nail in CrowdStrike’s forehead framing the conversation. I’m not speculating about anything. But it is unlikely, to say the least, that this series of coincidences could possibly be unrelated.
31   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 Jul 20, 9:45pm  

porkchopXpress says

The only reason Linux and Mac weren't affected is because Crowdstrike hadn't deployed the shitty update to them yet. This didn't have anything to do with Windows being a vulnerable OS, it was purely on Crowdstrike's colossal failure to QA the sensor update. If the update were deployed to Mac and Linux first, this would be a totally different story.


This is bullshit. Windows got the update first because their forced monopoly gives them the biggest share of the market. Which is why hackers ALWAYS target Microsoft first, go after the most people at once. But if you believe Microsoft is about quality see every other Windows version since NT. Windows is a shit system built on lies, theft, and abuse of copyright law. Haven't used them since XP, and haven't regretted it once...
32   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 Jul 20, 9:50pm  

RWSGFY says

What kind of idiot buys a ticket with layover in the USSR when Pukin is actively taking hostages to exchange for that FSB assasin captured in Germany? 🤡


What kind of idiot only carries US dollars internationally when they've weaponized the currency, while simultaneously tanking it in the US?

I wonder if they were Russians stuck in a US city if you'd see the handouts as common human decency, or treason?
33   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Jul 20, 9:59pm  

NuttBoxer says

What kind of idiot only carries US dollars internationally when they've weaponized the currency, while simultaneously tanking it in the US?


US dollar isn't tanking. And, rest of world doesn't give a fucking shit what the cost of groceries is in the US when deciding to buy USD or not.
34   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2024 Jul 20, 10:18pm  

Skynet will fix all of this.
35   HeadSet   2024 Jul 21, 7:39am  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

Skynet will fix all of this.

Hmmm. where is Richwicks by the way.....
36   WookieMan   2024 Jul 21, 7:51am  

HeadSet says

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

Skynet will fix all of this.

Hmmm. where is Richwicks by the way.....

I think he had the classic Patnet hissy fit and stormed off. Every conversation ended in WMD, Iraq and Afghanistan. At some point we get it dude, so myself included kind of went after him. Keep living in the past. Don't make the present and future better. Bitch about things that already happened. Don't let it happen again.

He didn't like real talk is all I'll say. I know it's frowned upon to talk about other users, but that was my experience with him. I know Pat had met him before in person. He had some valid points, but kept getting hung up on the past. History is important, but time moves forward. He was stuck in the 2000's.
39   Joetheplumber   2024 Jul 21, 2:10pm  

All those companies that relied on crowdstrike, do not have the internal I.T. infrastructure to manage much on their own, or they are just to big to deal with 10's of thousands of machines to maintain. I worked at a datacenter in the midwest for a few years, and it is amazing how much "cloud based servers" or "Virtual Machines" are in these facilities. We tested patches a week before pushing them out to the users desktops or virtual desktop systems..
Letting someone else do the work is just asking for trouble... especially DEI based hiring procedures... It's just insane... and shit like this will continue to happen. Someone's head will roll on this one. If you want a career in I.T. it will be brutal working in the back office environment... Managers do not say " Good Morning"... they say "BLAH,BLAH,BLAH IS DOWN"!!!

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