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AmericanKulak says

Apparently, her "Kielce" relationship will end on September 28th according to PR leaks.

Bump. They still might have a fake relationship but if so they are still faking it almost a month after the alleged end date.

PeopleUnited says

AmericanKulak says

Apparently, her "Kielce" relationship will end on September 28th according to PR leaks.

Bump. They still might have a fake relationship but if so they are still faking it almost a month after the alleged end date.

The date doesn't matter really. She's a hag slut at this point at 34. No kids. No commitment. She's a piece of trash really. Kelce knew what he was getting into if he even listened to a song.

Women "musicians" are trash at this point and that's at least 2 decades running. They don't even sing. Auto tuned to the moon. It's just a T and A show or fat black to shame losers into liking their music that was produced by someone else.

There are a few decent female musicians. Jewel comes to mind. Fiona Apple. They still didn't write their music though. Alanis M. (not spelling) comes to mind as well.

I really couldn't figure out my Mt. Rushmore of female musicians. They, themselves are not that good. Just have good producers.

Video killed the radio/music star. All the greats - Aretha, Patti LaBelle, Chaka Khan, Tina Turner, Etta James, were 3-5's looks-wise, but they had fucking pipes. Now it's all about fappability.

stereotomy says

Video killed the radio/music star. All the greats - Aretha, Patti LaBelle, Chaka Khan, Tina Turner, Etta James, were 3-5's looks-wise, but they had fucking pipes. Now it's all about fappability.

After recording 3 albums, I don't know what is real anymore. 70's after is all bull shit male or female in my world. I'm a live guy and most women can't pull it off, even the chart toppers or perceived good voice singers.

Everything is processed in studio or live for the past 40 years at least. I've done it. I'd play to a click track recording and they could move individual snare hits to the click. They'd toss effects and autotune on the lead singer/guitarist. Hell, music is the first form of AI really if you think about it.

I've never heard a good acoustic, no mic singer, ever. Take the mic and effects away and they generally don't sound good. Voices in my opinion only sound good in unison. Solo good voices are rare, like really rare. Unique voices are tolerable I guess if you like it. But it's still not good. Think Billy Corrigan (sp?) with Smashing Pumpkins. That wasn't a good voice. It was unique to their style. It sounds like a kid whining while playing in a band. Some people like that I guess?

WookieMan says

I've never heard a good acoustic, no mic singer, ever

What about opera?

stfu says

WookieMan says

I've never heard a good acoustic, no mic singer, ever

What about opera?

No mic... They have overhead mics so you can hear it. It's processed. 100%.

WookieMan says

After recording 3 albums, I don't know what is real anymore. 70's after is all bull shit male or female in my world. I'm a live guy and most women can't pull it off, even the chart toppers or perceived good voice singers.

Everything is processed in studio or live for the past 40 years at least. I've done it. I'd play to a click track recording and they could move individual snare hits to the click. They'd toss effects and autotune on the lead singer/guitarist. Hell, music is the first form of AI really if you think about it.

There are good female singers out there. When I was in my prime, we'd audition singers with torture tests of female vocals. Out of 20 applicants, maybe one would do OK. I agree - live is the acid test, raw vocals. You either got the pipes or you're shit. Fuck them, all they gotta do is fucking sing - they don't have to spend a decade or more of mastering their instruments.

Frankly, voices are largely born, not made. There are the flukes like Sass Jordan or Tina Turner, but women are either born with it (a lot like their SMV) or not. For males, unless you're a tenor or a baritone, then GTFO.

stereotomy says

Frankly, voices are largely born, not made. There are the flukes like Sass Jordan or Tina Turner, but women are either born with it (a lot like their SMV) or not. For males, unless you're a tenor or a baritone, then GTFO.

I agree with the born part. You have it or you don't. Males can get away with unique voices. AC/DC. Metallica. Korn. Bob Dylan. At no point is anyone calling them good singers, but they fit the genre.

Women singers are almost exclusively pop. Dime a dozen. They also very much come across whiney when singing. Adele is good. Still processed though on albums. Haven't watched live. I do think Christina Aguilera can sing acoustic without a mic and nail it. But the likes of Brittany Spears or Taylor would embarrass themselves without techs mixing the vocals.