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Polls, betting markets and election prediction thread


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2024 Sep 18, 3:19pm   2,348 views  187 comments

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The divergence has started between the partisan polls on each side and the neutral pollsters (if any).

Also the betting markets currently hold harris as favorite although the swing states stay hotly contested while Trump survives assassination attempt after attempt.

One would think they would move in the opposite direction which is a bit disturbing, but it may just be partisan hackery to add insult to injury.

Teamsters overwhelmingly voted in favor of Trump, do we have more liberal arts majors than working class to explain the polls?

Make your predictions here, or not ;)

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23   WookieMan   2024 Sep 23, 6:19am  

AD says

See latest Real Clear Politics composite poll below. Notice that Biden and Clinton were way ahead on 21 September for their election years.

No chance she wins WI. I wouldn't put a huge bet on it because of cheating, but I see no way she wins it. Trump wins MI and PA. So basically over with one or two of the three. Might or probably should win MN as well.

Even in rural IL there are still a lot of liberals/dems. Almost non-existent support for Harris. Walz was an awful choice which may cost MN. Wake the citizens up and be like "shit, we voted for this weirdo for governor." Harris is/will LOSE 5 points at least because of him in MN. You got the largest Somali population #muslim in the country. Israel, Hamas and Hezbollah issues ain't gonna be liked.

There's no path to victory for Harris. The margin of error is 4. Florida and Ohio shouldn't even be on the list anyway. He gets 3 of those she's toast. I see WI, PA, MI, AZ, NV, NC, GA all going Trump.

This is why we have the electoral college. I don't want CA policies in my area. The only reason most democrats are ever in play is CA, IL and NY. The rest don't have enough EC votes to really move the needle. Trump needs 2 of those state and it's over. Hence why they're trying to kill him.
25   RayAmerica   2024 Sep 23, 7:19am  

Do you believe that this election will be stolen by the Democrats?

Yes - 99%
No - 0%
Undecided - 1%

Do you believe that the Republicans will do anything significant to stop the steal?

Yes - 0%
No - 100%
26   HeadSet   2024 Sep 23, 8:25am  

WookieMan says

I see WI, PA, MI, AZ, NV, NC, GA all going Trump.

With everyone concentrating on those states to stop a steal, watch a totally unexpected cheat come in and unwatched Texas goes for Harris. Maybe another surprise like the known swing states are cheated for Harris, but New York negates that by voting for Trump.
27   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Sep 23, 8:37am  

RayAmerica says

Do you believe that this election will be stolen by the Democrats?

Yes - 99%
No - 0%
Undecided - 1%

Do you believe that the Republicans will do anything significant to stop the steal?

Yes - 0%
No - 100%


I hereby vote this to be the most accurate poll I have seen on this thread so far.

But then again, I am a certified cynical GenX ratbastard.
28   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Sep 23, 8:41am  

Apparently, the Amish is really pissed at the Dems. In PA, Gov. Shapiro sent goons to raid their farms for unprocessed milk.


32   zzyzzx   2024 Sep 27, 9:19am  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says


Apparently, the Amish is really pissed at the Dems. In PA, Gov. Shapiro sent goons to raid their farms for unprocessed milk.





I hope they have busses and enough drivers to take Amish people to the polls. Also, I'm guessing pollsters aren't asking the Amish who they are voting for. They should turn this into a literal Trump Train. https://www.strasburgrailroad.com/
34   socal2   2024 Sep 30, 12:30pm  

Trump should be running away with this election based on the fundamentals and it should be well outside the range of the cheat.

I believe (hope) the polls are still undercounting support for Trump based on history and the Media's desire to suppress Republican enthusiasm.

But if Trump manages to lose this thing, that will be on us for nominating a candidate that had unique and very high unfavorable ratings capable of losing to someone as weak as Kamala and Waltz.
36   Ceffer   2024 Sep 30, 1:16pm  

How come there's not a column for the voting machines and drop off containers?
37   AmericanKulak   2024 Sep 30, 1:30pm  

Ceffer says

How come there's not a column for the voting machines and drop off containers?

@AD, hope all is well and no problems.
38   AD   2024 Sep 30, 2:59pm  

AmericanKulak says

AD, hope all is well and no problems.


I appreciate that

fortunately the track line of category 4 Hurricane Heline was about 120 miles east of here
39   HeadSet   2024 Sep 30, 6:17pm  

socal2 says

But if Trump manages to lose this thing, that will be on us for nominating a candidate that had unique and very high unfavorable ratings capable of losing to someone as weak as Kamala and Waltz.

No, it will be that the MAGA folks were unable to stop the steal. In an honest election, Trump wins in a landslide.
42   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Oct 7, 10:54am  

Again, NOT a fan of Polymarket. Americans can't legally bet there. Illegal alien voters and dead people certainly can not, either.

But here it is. Notice the huge delta between the two graphs.




44   WookieMan   2024 Oct 7, 5:12pm  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says







I'd have to dig the comment up. I beat JD. No one is ready for a female POTUS. A fake black one at that. That cackles at serious things. Didn't receive a single vote in this primary. Only got in because Biden ate shit at a national debate.

The money is going to be sunk into House and Senate seats. They have to cock block Trump. The know Kamala can't win. Women don't like her and men certainly don't. Unless they're gay which is only 2-3% of the population and most aren't actually gay. They just couldn't fuck a chick and gave up.
45   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Oct 7, 6:37pm  

WookieMan says

I'd have to dig the comment up.


What comment? The cat lady one that he got shit for from the Dems and a bunch of memes were posted about on PatNet?
46   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Oct 7, 6:39pm  

WookieMan says


No one is ready for a female POTUS


Not so much that. It's just that the female candidates so far have been awful candidates. Not a Maggie Thatcher amongst them. And yes, both so far have had those awful cackles.
47   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Oct 7, 6:40pm  

WookieMan says

Women don't like her


Karen's do.
48   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Oct 8, 10:45pm  

Over the past two weeks in my travels, it has been increasingly difficult to engage Democrats about the presidential race, much like a fan whose team has dropped a few playoff games and who is avoiding the sports page, they just don’t want to talk about it.

As one lifelong Democrat in Ohio who I did get to talk to put it, "I don’t know, she’s just kind of there."

It was only after that, that I started hearing Democrats uttering words that seemed unthinkable back in August, namely, "Maybe we should have stuck with Biden." Ouch.


https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/kamala-harriss-joy-quietly-turning-panic-democrats
52   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Oct 15, 5:27pm  

Nate Silver is starting his usual turnaround now that he got a bunch of suckers to bet for Kamala on Polymarket.


53   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Oct 15, 5:45pm  

Polymarket is starting to spread wider than Kamala's legs:


54   PeopleUnited   2024 Oct 16, 8:16am  

If less than 100,000 voters in swing states have more power than millions and millions of voters in other places, and if those 100,000 voters are idiots (aside: chances are many of them are) then we have reached the point in time where idiocracy the movie is reality. Idiots literally run our country.

55   HeadSet   2024 Oct 16, 11:15am  

PeopleUnited says

If less than 100,000 voters in swing states have more power than millions and millions of voters in other places

If that were true then the candidates would only campaign in those districts.
56   PeopleUnited   2024 Oct 16, 6:15pm  

They campaign nearly everywhere because if enough people stay home it might impact the winner and certainly will impact down ballot outcomes. But there are just a few swing districts on which the presidential race hinges, and idiot voters in those districts WILL show up and determine the outcome of the election.
57   AmericanKulak   2024 Oct 16, 6:46pm  

It is increasingly evident Kamala is meant to marshal only the delusional Democrat fringe, salvaging downticket races while sacrificing the presidency.

Obama gave this away when he "campaigned for Kamala"... but only in states where a downticket DNC incumbent was in danger.
https://x.com/RAZ0RFIST/status/1846725942565085215
58   AmericanKulak   2024 Oct 16, 6:46pm  

Kamala tanked today on Fox.
60   Ceffer   2024 Oct 16, 10:05pm  

For the gambling addicts:

61   WookieMan   2024 Oct 17, 4:05am  

AmericanKulak says

Kamala tanked today on Fox.

When hasn't she tanked? Even though she's older the only reason she got into law school was because she checked some boxes, no different than Elizabeth Warren being Native American. They've been doing the race quotas for decades.

The bottom line is that she's not intelligent. Even Democrats know this. It's just they have TDS and simply won't vote for Trump. I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of Dems sit this one out or at least abstain from the POTUS vote. Kamala would embarrass this country and if you say you voted for her you'll be mocked. This is a proven track record vs nothing vote that no one even voted for in the first place.

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