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Irrespective of Trump’s occasional positive and negative statements about India, I keep repeating MAGA doesn't want India to grow. They are already regretting China's growth. US very well understands IT is backbone of our economy.

MAGA, primarily white Americans hate Indians doing well in US.

They'll send back as many Indians as possible from USA. Not everyone in Indian IT is irreplaceable. Already AI is eliminating low end and entry level jobs. Big Tech is also seriously thinking about bringing high end jobs back to US and also outsource them to many other countries as they can't get a single country similar to ours for complete outsourcing.

The day is not far off IT industry in India would become unviable as Trump may tariff IT services also heavily.

It may take couple of years for these developments to play out.

Suffering of IT industry means suffering of entire urban India and white collar economy.

Be cautious with your money. For example, it may not be a right time to 'invest' in real estate.

Real estate stands on two pillars - legal money from IT professionals in India and NRIs. The other pillar is parking of black money by corrupt politicians, bureaucrats and businessmen.

If the first pillar gets affected, second too would be impacted. Demand would slow down. Money flow in economy would come down. You need good money flow in the economy for corruption too.

I'm more pessimistic about Indian economy and markets for next 3 to 5 years. I would be happy to be proven wrong. But this is how I see it now.

https://x.com/dmuthuk/status/1969262558336209011

As the globe turns, they are starting to wake up in India now. X is being flooded with them.

Rumors is that when india did retaliatory attack in pakistan, it bombed us assets unknowingly or knowingly. Us can't spreak about it without admitting it has base there. Trump started putting 50% tarriff n h1b ban etc after that.

India with hugh population will buy cheapest oil, unless trump has way to get that from other countries , india will buy from russia. Eu also buys tons from Russia, they had nodserm pipeline. Looks like Russia war is not going well and since they can't do much agaist Russia or China, they picking 3rd best option.

MolotovCocktail says

Patrick - you know the Bay Area. Am I wrong about watching Fremont R/E more closely now?

@MolotovCocktail

Fremont seems to be majority H1B. In a rational world, prices should fall dramatically there. But sometimes the world is not rational.

Patrick says

MolotovCocktail says

Patrick - you know the Bay Area. Am I wrong about watching Fremont R/E more closely now?

MolotovCocktail

Fremont seems to be majority H1B. In a rational world, prices should fall dramatically there. But sometimes the world is not rational.

I figure rents will go down first.

Also, it has been mostly overlooked but Trump also gave Rubio power to cut down on H-4s. Spouses/minor children of H1Bs. They start racking up fees for or just ending those period will send the Indians packing home. And big business can't justify fighting over those since H-4s don't contribute to their bottom line. Oh, they'll bitch but that's all.

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/trumps-new-100000-visa-fee-could-be-devastating-indias-economy

India is the largest recipient of remittances from the US in the world (cash wired by migrants from the US back home). Without feeding on remittances from America, India loses out on over $140 billion (around 30% of their annual tax revenues). Without this cash, India's economy would implode.

Furthermore, India's rupee has hit record lows against the dollar this month. The country is highly dependent on oil imports and oil is primarily purchased with dollars. The flow of dollars from migrants in the US into India's economy is more important than ever. The loss of dollars flowing from 300,000+ Indian workers living in the US could be devastating.

Ahhhh...the panic!

Suggestions for H1Bs who are already in the US and not immediately affected by the 100K H1B fee:

You are not safe just because you don't immediately need a renewal or travel outside of US. Companies will make policies that impact all H1Bs. You are lucky as you have some time to execute the below suggestions to come out ahead, while you still can:

- Dispose of your assets in the US while there is still time. Do NOT delay this.
- Start with hard assets like houses. Dont wait to maximise the profit. US housing market can collapse any time and H1B sell off can trigger it. The first movers will get out fine. Accept the first good offer you get and move to a small rental. Sell off useless furniture.
- If your family members are dependents, send them back to India asap. Schooling can be worked out.
- Buy an apartment or plot of land in India if you don't have one already.
- Sell off expensive cars and get a used cheap car.
- Move money from US stock market and invest in Gold ETFs in India. Unlike US ETFs, Indian ETFs have equivalent physical gold. This will protect your investment from US-INR conversion volatility.
- Get out of crypto. Holding crypto while in India is going to be a regulatory hassle.
- Avoid paying for expensive tuition in the US if your kids are not US citizens or expected to be GC holders by the time they graduate. There are good private colleges in India they can go to.
- Apply for a role in GCC in India if your company as an Indian GCC or apply for roles in Dubai or Singapore or other GCCs in India.

Being stuck in the US with no path to GC and unable to change jobs or visit your family is mental torture. Don't prolong the suffering. Wisdom is knowing when to cut the losses.

Rebuild your life with confidence, happiness and prosperity outside of US. Best wishes!

Friends, RT max / tag your H1 friends. Let this message reach those in need.

https://x.com/Shiva_Uvacha/status/1969388029912760762

See the parts on bold, @Patrick

That is what I am counting on happening in Fremont, especially.

MolotovCocktail says

Indian GCC

Never heard of these before:

Global Capability Centers (GCCs) in India. India hosts over 1,800 GCCs, which are centers for research and development, innovation, and other business functions. They are established by multinational corporations to leverage India's skilled workforce, cost advantages, and technology infrastructure.

Patrick says

MolotovCocktail says

Indian GCC

Never heard of these before:

Global Capability Centers (GCCs) in India. India hosts over 1,800 GCCs, which are centers for research and development, innovation, and other business functions. They are established by multinational corporations to leverage India's skilled workforce, cost advantages, and technology infrastructure.

And those are fucked too, if the HIRE Act passes (which I admit is very iffy) unwatered down (very likely).

MolotovCocktail says

For those of you who think I am too much of a racist asshole...you would be too if you lived here to see what happened over 30 years. You would be too if you had to train TWO Jeets to take over my job like I had to. And I personally liked a few Jeets despite that. Not any fucking more. I was stupid.

Exhibit B:

No, the awards are legit. You should see the losers.

TATA Layoffs!

No one cares if business hire but a great deal when they layoff as so many left and commi politicians join them behind. Fake media loves the show as well as the run the same news over and over.
Occasionally, ex employee, refuses to leave the facility. This is where media comes and show how evil the employers are!

arch bridge is the highest rail bridge and arch bridge in the world.


https://www.instagram.com/share/reel/_mDPSkXAw
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenab_Rail_Bridge

KgK one says

arch bridge is the highest rail bridge and arch bridge in the world.

And?? Assuming there's not slave labor they're going to have to paint that bridge every 10 years to the tune of $100M. It's going to need constant maintenance. A lot of bridges that are impressive have fallen. I have no issue with bridges or heights, but you left out one important piece of info:

The bridge was fully completed in August 2022, and the first trial runs were conducted in June 2024. The bridge was opened for rail traffic on 6 June 2025

Bridge was completed but it took two years for a "trial run" to be done? It then didn't open for another year. Started in 2017. So 8 years and will need maintenance soon.

I think this is a better accomplishment in two ways, but hey, a metal bridge that is going to cost a ton to keep from falling is some feat.

MolotovCocktail says

MolotovCocktail says

For those of you who think I am too much of a racist asshole...you would be too if you lived here to see what happened over 30 years. You would be too if you had to train TWO Jeets to take over my job like I had to. And I personally liked a few Jeets
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If you lost jobs to indian is not logical reason to hate all indians. Ask yourself who made that decision n why. It's corporation which owned by stock owners who wants more return.

If you look from point of native american - feather indians for you: those guys taught whites how to farm n fed you during Thanksgiving, yet all their land was stolen, their jobs taken, their women were raped, kids enslaved and kicked out to shit dry land in Utah. They should be really missed.

Look at your own house, almost everything is made in china. You bought it bcs they give more value. In global economy that is the issue.

My suggestion is that you move to india get job at even lower pay and get back at the jeet. They might even higher you as white monkey- it's Chinese term :)

India used to be richest. Look at Taj mahal n forts, 1st diamond mine. British used tax, slavery , theft to steal 45 trillion. If British didn't create poverty, very few people would come here.

KgK one says

you lost jobs to indian is not logical reason to hate all indians. Ask yourself who made that decision n why. It's corporation which owned by stock owners who wants more return.

What some corporation does or doesn't do has nothing to do with how I feel about this.

The rest of what you wrote is just Bharat! Bharat! Jeet bullshit.

Oh. And learn to properly quote here, Mr. H1B.

KgK one says

My suggestion is that you move to india

This shit hole?

I'm a little suspicious of Stew Peter. I think it's all an act, just look at the name.

MolotovCocktail says

KgK one says

you lost jobs to indian is not logical reason to hate all indians. Ask yourself who made that decision n why. It's corporation which owned by stock owners who wants more return.

What some
corporation does or doesn't do has nothing to do with how I feel about this.

The rest of what you wrote is just Bharat! Bharat! Jeet bullshit.

Oh. And learn to properly quote here, Mr. H1B.

KgK one says

My suggestion is that you move to india

This shit hole?

What area do you live in fullmouthcocktail? No doubt there are shit areas in india but same in usa. Go to skidrow and homeless area in la, philly, .ny, ...

Go to better areas in india. Go steal their jobs :)
https://www.instagram.com/share/reel/BAOJ3doa6L

India has monsoon equivalent to Florida or Georgia flooding. Some roads gets washed away every year.

Each state is different. You can move to north west near desert no rain . Or north east, highest amount of rain.

In global economy, corporates will look for cheapest solution. No one is safe. Even Indians complain when Mexican or bangladesho takes their job. India is also struggling with illegal immegrants. They got 30 million from shitty muslim countries like Bangladesh.

KgK one says

No doubt there are shit areas in india but same in usa. Go to skidrow and homeless area in la, philly, .ny, ..

Cut the crap. India is internationally recognized as a world class shit hole. There is nothing like it in the US. I don't even think there is in Mexico anymore.

You know it, too.

AI is about to take out lot of jobs, its not going to be rough all over the world. MolotovCocktail says

KgK one says

No doubt there are shit areas in india but same in usa. Go to skidrow and homeless area in la, philly, .ny, ..

Cut the crap. India is internationally recognized as a world class shit hole. There is nothing like it in the US. I don't even think there is in Mexico anymore.

You know it, too.

You still haven't told us where so you live? I can show you where to look. I have gone thru philly kensington Ave and it's true shithole. You can watch videos on YouTube also. In LA go thru skid row.

Hitler can hate all non blond n blue eye , British can kill all the Irish n Scottish, blacks kill shit load of other blacks. But now it's going to be AI vs people, Ai is going to take out lot of jobs.

KgK one says

AI is about to take out lot of jobs,

And India will still be a shit hole.

If India were a Republican form of govt and not a Democracy?

As per below, the shitholes that are India's cities could become like this...better and faster than the Chinese did.

Yes, but then Indian politicians won't be able to blame India's problems they caused on the British...or Americans (some Jeet argued with me the other day on X that America was responsible for splitting up India in 1948, not the British. I swear.)..or the Pakis...or whatever.

And KgK one won't have to deny his shame of his own shithole country via denial of reality trolling crap here, either.

It's all so simple, really.

Plenty of nice places in india. Yes agree that British colonism brought indias gdp from 30% to mere 2 %. They starved 100 million by shipping food for their own wars with France n Germany.
For a developing country it's doing amazing. China is dictatorship , so things can happen lot faster. It is biggest democracy in the world, if usa loved democracy then it should support it, but it funds dictator everywhere.

Kota rj https://youtu.be/uVAwKPcXs40

Ahemdabad gj https://www.instagram.com/share/reel/BAAvlNYLQh
Chandigar https://youtu.be/RUaZiZKD8nQ

Lot of nice places , minicocktail , you only search for shitty places, then you will find them everywhere.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DL3zwHYTK2E/?igsh=OW5jbHd6MTczcmx4

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Wait till u learn what Europeans did n their stench.
https://youtube.com/shorts/15DjTrBaQaQ?si=pg_cmk5Qd-xv8CGb

French history
https://medium.com/@imran.haidree/the-smelly-history-of-french-royals-filth-feces-and-fragrance-navigating-the-smelly-streets-6bec914401e1

https://nstperfume.com/2010/07/23/the-great-stink-of-paris-and-the-nineteenth-century-struggle-against-filth-and-germs-by-david-s-barnes-perfume-books/
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIoXgOgMkdC/?igsh=MTZ0eDlhZzZ2ZTh5Yg%3D%3D

KgK one says

agree that British colonism brought indias gdp from 30% to mere 2 %

No. Indians did/still do that. Brits left 80 years ago.

KgK one says

Plenty of nice places in india.

Do you live there currently in India? You're talking about a few streets in major cities in the US being bad. The US is 3x's as large and has 1/3rd the population. You pack 1B people into a small place for the most part and it will be a shit hole. It's okay to admit it.

You're trying to defend things that are indefensible. Yes the US has a few problem spots in certain cities. Maybe 30 legit cities. India probably has 500 shit holes at least and it's the entire city. Not just a pocket.

A neighboring town in my area has an Indian run gas station. The owner lives there. The place smell like shit, like human feces. I swear they are pooping in buckets or something. It was run by whites 20 years ago and smelled just fine.

Agree you cant compare emerging country to usa. Lot of shitty areas in india obviously, point is there are many pockets of nice areas also.

As for gas stations, usa has some really nice ones and many private shitty ones. Dont care who owns it asian, indian, latino or white all stink. Prefer using those big corporate places usually are much cleaner.

Guessing that small private gas station is low profit, n lot of work that no one local wanted to operate. Gas stations by itself are very low profit, their store sales make up the difference.

When I'm traveling, I always seek motels that are not owned/operated by Indians, for the simple reason that Indian-run locations are more often than not unhygienic. This is because the Brahmins and other upper caste Indians consider it beneath themselves to have concerns about keeping the bathrooms clean or fumigating for bedbugs. This is probably why most Indians shit in the woods - it's too disgusting to wipe your own ass.

I see this all the time at work - men who won't touch their cocks to direct the spray so they piss all over the floor instead, figuring Dalits will take care of it.

I predict I will get my second ignore from this by you know who.