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2024 Dec 30, 7:29pm   21,543 views  628 comments

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https://www.amren.com/features/2024/12/india-its-worse-than-you-think/


India: It’s Worse Than You Think

Most Westerners know nothing about India beyond vague ideas about Hinduism, yoga, gurus, and maybe a dash of Bollywood. To such people, this article will be a rude awakening. ...

I had first returned to India with the idea of improving it, but after 11 years, I realized that India was a sinking ship, with worsening and increasingly shameless corruption, degraded people, and a society that was falling apart. I had never met an honest bureaucrat or politician. I applied to emigrate to Canada and my application was approved in a record three weeks.

I now advise East Asian and Western corporations on investing in India. Most of what I tell them sounds to them exaggerated, unrealistic, and unbelievable. After much dance, drama, and a great deal of lost money, they begin to believe what I tell them. However, this learning is never institutionalized because of a refusal to understand India. This is a form of political correctness, a poison eating away the innards of Western values.

When I was a child growing up in India, I learned that “might makes right.” Power was often abused, with those in control acting as if they had a God-given right to exploit and dominate others. The display of authority could be so extreme that questioning it or expecting those in power to do their duty might lead to retribution. Those in authority seemed to believe that their positions were not for serving others but for personal gain.

People who showed respect appeared to have meekly accepted a lower, subservient position. Kind people had to hide their compassion, for being nice was seen as a weakness.

In India, I have rarely seen someone in authority take the initiative to solve a problem he was responsible for. When I was at university, an underaged boy who worked in the kitchen was raped and sodomized by the janitors. I reported the matter, but not only did no one in authority do what was right — something well within their power — the authorities and fellow students threatened me with severe consequences if I pursued the matter further. Devoid of empathy, they also made fun of the boy and me.

Yes, there is an element of sadism here. There is some degree of pleasure that Indians take in the pain suffered by others. The attitude of the authorities was like that of the high-placed Delhi bureaucrat who told me that his Black Label whiskey tastes so much better because he knows that most Indians can’t afford to drink it.

This confuses Westerners. If they had power, even if they were corrupt, in a situation where there was nothing to gain or lose — no bribes to receive since both parties were poor, and no risk of offending someone well-connected — they would do the right thing and book the alleged rapist. These Indians would do nothing, not even lift a finger, unless there was a reward: money or sex. Their apathy was bottomless.


The article goes on about how incredibly low-trust India is as a society.

True? Any people from India want to opine on this?

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508   MolotovCocktail   2025 Oct 18, 11:10am  

Patrick says

My great grandfather from Poland was killed by a train in Chicago in 1907, along with his oldest son. They were trying to cross ahead of a train in a horse and buggy.

I tried to find a newspaper article about it, but that kind of train accident happened pretty much every day at the time, since there were no crossing gates.


...yes, back in the days when America was a developing third world country.
510   stereotomy   2025 Oct 18, 1:39pm  

KgK one says

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/174uKtmzSr/

Didn't know Ireland was looted as well.

The English took what they learned from 500 years of raping Ireland and applied it to India. Famine was the favorite tool.
511   Patrick   2025 Oct 18, 2:09pm  

Ireland was exporting large quantities of food to England all during the famine, mostly beef.
512   stereotomy   2025 Oct 18, 3:50pm  

Patrick says


Ireland was exporting large quantities of food to England all during the famine, mostly beef.

When international outrage was at its peak, the English committed to a public works program to employ jobless Irish. Since it was against Mercantilist policy to improve a foreign country, the English instead paid Irish to rip up the roads in Ireland, further destroying the country.
513   Patrick   2025 Oct 18, 4:46pm  

There are still "famine roads" in Ireland which were pointed out to me. They don't go anywhere, but the English paid to have them built.

https://www.frrandp.com/2025/01/famine-roads.html


The Famine Roads of Ireland: Pathways to Nowhere

Across the rolling hills and rugged landscapes of western Ireland, one can find peculiar relics of a dark chapter in the island’s history. These are the Famine Roads - routes that climb into the hills, twist through valleys, and often end abruptly, leading nowhere. Their haunting presence is a testament to the desperation and suffering endured by countless Irish peasants during the Great Famine of 1845–1852.
516   MolotovCocktail   2025 Oct 20, 9:31am  

MolotovCocktail says


Patrick says


My great grandfather from Poland was killed by a train in Chicago in 1907, along with his oldest son. They were trying to cross ahead of a train in a horse and buggy.

I tried to find a newspaper article about it, but that kind of train accident happened pretty much every day at the time, since there were no crossing gates.


...yes, back in the days when America was a developing third world country.



Looks like the Brightline in Florida has its death toll. A lot are suicides like I witnessed at BART.


More than 180 people have met their end on Brightline tracks since 2017, making it the deadliest train in the country per million miles traveled. Even more disturbing is that most fatalities are arguably an idiosyncrasy of the state’s libertine, masochistic culture. Subsequent investigations have rarely found train conductors to be at fault, pointing instead to suicides as well as drivers attempting to beat trains at crossings. National Public Radio’s WRLN found that 41 percent of deaths since 2017 were suicides, though it neglected to provide a breakdown of the remaining fatalities. Much of the blame lies with both local and state governments, but Brightline itself has also been reluctant to spend resources on safety infrastructure due to its financial woes.


https://open.substack.com/pub/theliberalpatriot/p/limited-government-built-the-brightline
517   KgK one   2025 Oct 20, 5:03pm  

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQApxblgc8n/



British really had it for Irish, n other Europeans also :)

How can they tell Irish from British, did Irish have good teeth
518   stereotomy   2025 Oct 20, 5:14pm  

KgK one says

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQApxblgc8n/



British really had it for Irish, n other Europeans also :)

How can they tell Irish from British, did Irish have good teeth

Lots of sunlight, lots of Vitamin D, which is great for teeth.

There's a reason why most darker Caribbeans are good looking - it's all the Irish blood in them.
519   KgK one   2025 Oct 22, 6:33am  





Happy new year n diwali
524   Ceffer   2025 Oct 27, 3:07pm  

MolotovCocktail says

Patrick says

My great grandfather from Poland was killed by a train in Chicago in 1907, along with his oldest son. They were trying to cross ahead of a train in a horse and buggy.

My great grandfather (Irish) was killed by a horse taxi when crossing a road (New York State). He was 96 years old when it happened.
526   KgK one   2025 Oct 28, 7:52pm  

Guy knows what happens in that one location out of millions of towns. Yet choose to go there n particIpate, then complain about his experience as if he was unaware. 500 people out of 1,500,000,000 participate no need to bad mouth everyone.

Its like going to Florida eating frog, snake, n alligator purposely then saying all Americans eat that stuff .

Lol, I do agree these participants are crazy. Kinda disgusting. Even 20% of Americans who eat ass , might find it disgusting.

Wisconsin has something similar but doest make the news.
https://youtu.be/XK7-lO5MnLo
527   HeadSet   2025 Oct 29, 12:09pm  

KgK one says

Wisconsin has something similar

Tossing dry cowchips for distance is not the same as slathering each other with wet poop.
528   Blue   2025 Oct 30, 6:55am  

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/explained-why-four-us-congressmen-have-written-to-rutgers-over-a-hindutva-in-america-event/articleshow/124800104.cms

Diversity: Rutgers is a large public university with a diverse student population of many religions, ethnicities, and backgrounds. Approximately 5,000 of its 50,000 students on the New Brunswick campus are Muslim.

Ok, that is good enough number to kickstart Jihadist politics.
529   WookieMan   2025 Oct 30, 7:13am  

HeadSet says

KgK one says


Wisconsin has something similar

Tossing dry cowchips for distance is not the same as slathering each other with wet poop.

Bingo. It's different. If a finger slips when shitting out my own ass, it's an immediate shower. Not hand washing. And no I'm not a germaphobe. It's shit. I always try and force a shit out before a shower if I can.

KgK one says

Its like going to Florida eating frog, snake, n alligator purposely then saying all Americans eat that stuff .

Actually nothing wrong with that if cooked and seasoned properly. I'll try anything once and if I like it I would continue to eat it when available.

KgK one says

Guy knows what happens in that one location out of millions of towns. Yet choose to go there n particIpate, then complain about his experience as if he was unaware. 500 people out of 1,500,000,000 participate no need to bad mouth everyone.

No different than the KKK here and all white males are racist. The problem with your argument is that it's shit, literally. As far as I've read the KKK doesn't do anything to blacks anymore and the membership is nothing basically. Point is we evolved as a society. India has not except the wealthy class.

500 people smearing shit on each other is 1 too many. I don't care if there's a billion people. And the 500 is all you hear about, it could be 5M and it's not reported of shit smears. No way to track that with that population.

I don't post on this thread to shit on you, pun intended, but we're not just talking cities and a few blocks like in LA, SF, NYC, Chicago, NOLA, etc. We're talking entire regions that are shit holes. You may be lucky to be connected or know where to go, but the internet and reporting says something completely different. I don't trust media, but at some point if so much shit is thrown at you, you have to believe it.
531   Booger   2025 Nov 3, 3:21pm  

A tiny fraction of Indians in Japan was enough to radicalize the entire country into demanding mass deportations btw.
532   KgK one   2025 Nov 4, 7:16pm  

Booger says

A tiny fraction of Indians in Japan was enough to radicalize the entire country into demanding mass deportations btw.

It's muslims n external people not only indians. India had great influence on Japan. Buddism and most Japanese gods are same as India.
533   KgK one   2025 Nov 5, 4:00pm  

British left india with 90% poverty rate.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQotVzUkmmL/

What amazing place it used to be


534   goofus   2025 Nov 5, 4:25pm  

What amazing smoke and mirrors from the Indian expats here. Vedic cultural remnants are somehow Dravidian, despite dravidians having no written language until 1000 years ago. (The Vedic peoples were steppe invaders. Tarim Basin of western China also had Sanskrit writers, and their mummies were red-haired, tall, and European genetically. The 5-25% of modern Indian DNA that clusters with Lithuanian end members comes from this period.)

Mughals built the Taj Mahal, in a style from Samarkand, but dravidians claim it. They also claim the Indus Valley culture, despite the DNA excavation showing proto-Iranian genetics similar to the Elamites (east Caucasus migrations down through the Iranian plateau 4500y ago).

Indians also claim incredible trillions “stolen” from a country with Bronze Age weaving, metallurgy, and subsistence farming. You’re welcome for the modern infrastructure. The introduction of thermodynamics alone is worth more than all the exported cloth, tea, and rice of India. Credit Borlag’s green revolution for enabling, via fertilizers and pest control, India’s swollen population. Modern India wouldn’t exist without western technology, and even then the country is squalid.
535   KgK one   2025 Nov 6, 3:30pm  

Goofs, you must not have known but india had trade n one of the richest till 1820 when British took over.

Top 2 oldest language are indian. 3500 old, they have thousands of books. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit

Indus vally is how india got its name. Iran is next to it so people will exchange ideas n culture there.

India had 2 of the most fertile land and Asia almost always held 60 to 70% of world population. So it was some what hard to do famine unless British forced it.

1st diamond mine was in india. Next trip to London or DC museums, you can see how many diamonds are from.india.

The boat that British came to india was built by Indians. Dutch lost first battle in india.

Moguls built Taj mahal using indian labor n money. Also there is whole theory that it was built by Indian king n they modified it. Muslims don't build mosuleums for their 3rd wife. Have you seen any building that looks like that in middle east even 100 years ago before oil discovery.

Not only indians , even British historian claim that they stole it. Look up Yale university creator how he got rich n created yale.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLCsaInSf4d/
536   Patrick   2025 Nov 6, 4:12pm  

We should not argue about which culture is better because Europeans and northern Indians are cousins on the male line. This is why we speak related Indo-European languages.
537   stereotomy   2025 Nov 6, 7:58pm  

Did the various peoples of the Indian subcontinent get raped for 1,000 years by the musselman? - yes.

Did the British East India Company (later the British Raj) kill millions of Indians? - yes.

Was India ever meant to be one country, given its caste/cultural/geographic divisions? Probably not.

The peoples of the Indian subcontinent would have been better served by multiple independent governments like Europe before the globohomo takeover. I understand why India in aggregate was created - it was a massive bulwark against commie China in the early Cold War.
538   Patrick   2025 Nov 6, 8:05pm  

stereotomy says

I understand why India in aggregate was created - it was a massive bulwark against commie China in the early Cold War.


That never occurred to me, though I've often thought that India has as many different languages and cultures as Europe does.

Who decided that India should be one country?
539   Misc   2025 Nov 6, 8:33pm  

Patrick says

Who decided that India should be one country?


The British drew the lines on the map for a reason. They also didn't like Kurds, so didn't give them a country.
540   Patrick   2025 Nov 6, 9:04pm  

True, the British were evil in drawing boundaries. The boundary between Northern Ireland and the Republic was drawn specifically to make Protestants the majority in the north, a kind of gerrymandering.
541   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 6, 9:37pm  

KgK one says

So it was some what hard to do famine unless British forced it.

India had many famines before the Raj, as recorded by Indians themselves
542   stereotomy   2025 Nov 6, 11:13pm  

Patrick says


stereotomy says


I understand why India in aggregate was created - it was a massive bulwark against commie China in the early Cold War.


That never occurred to me, though I've often thought that India has as many different languages and cultures as Europe does.

Who decided that India should be one country?


Now you're asking the right questions.

Look at how the Sykes-Picot agreement carved up the former Ottoman Empire. None of the "nations" manufactured at the point of a pen were anywhere near viable - so the frogs and the english set up the minority population as the leaders, so that they would be dependent on colonial powers to maintain their rule.

India was and is a kaleidoscope of cultures for the past 2000 years or so. There was constant war in the Indian subcontinent first between rival kingdoms, then against the musselman invaders, then against the East Indian mercenaries, then against the english raj,

India as a nation is inherently ungovernable - by design.
544   MolotovCocktail   2025 Nov 7, 5:27pm  

KgK one says

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKBBPPIzMwy/




Sorry.

But this is a thread about India. Not about Using The Brits As An Excuse For India Being A Shithole.
546   MolotovCocktail   2025 Nov 11, 3:44pm  

Booger says






British all at fault!

But least they had electricity.
547   KgK one   2025 Nov 12, 12:16pm  

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQ9G5Qbk14h/

https://www.indiatimes.com/trending/social-relevance/maharaja-jam-saheb-digvijaysinhji-and-world-war-ii-polish-refugees-story-549242.html

He ruled Nawanagar from 1933 to 1947 when Nawanagar was merged into the United State of Kathiawar, after which he held his title nominally. In the midst of World War II, Jadeja is personally credited for saving around a thousand Polish orphans between 1942 and 1946, following the Invasion of Poland.

Also no one was asked convert their religion.

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